B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So yesterday
she talked to us about

Letting go of being special and

You know, we are special as
source consciousness and so on.

And so what, what, what that took me
into in the afternoon, I listened to

the audio again with the transcript

is it's not so much about being
s- just about being special,

that kind of one dimension.

It's really about letting
go of all of identity

And letting go of the identity of a

A limited being and, and, you know,
going to our true identity as, as source

consciousness, as creator consciousness.

And so, you know, I started to really
kind of look at the whole thing,

not just that, but kind of all the
adjacent territories that were…

And I'm like, "Okay, well, well,
what are the, you know, okay, well,

that's fine, but, you know, what
are the things this identity wants?

It wa-wants to win the lottery,
wants to sell the house.

Okay, what if, what if
I just let go of that?

Because all of that wanting is the
push that's creating resistance in

the flow of creation, and I just
completely let go of those goals."

And it, it reminds me a bit of the,
the Cathars walking the fire where, you

know, what if I just let go of all of it?

What if I just say yes to the
entire process and allow the ego

consciousness to reduce my life to,
to nothingness or destroy my life

completely, and just be okay with that?

And just say, "Yes.

Thank you.

May I have some more?"

Poverty, lack.

Okay.

Yes.

Thank you.

May I have some more?

Complete loss of everything that's
important for me in my life.

Yes.

Thank you.

May I have some more

And so I wasn't trying to get anywhere.

I was just like, "Okay, well, what if?

What if that were true?"

And, uh, I think earlier I listened to
the abundance codes, like the, the four of

them together, the abundance, the miracle,
the prosperity, the sacred cosmic vow

and I could feel, feel
those activating my system

And then there was a moment where I had
some conflict with Audrey, and then I

got to see all the, all the things that
are rising from it, all the fear, all

the difficulty, all the attempts at
storytelling and blahda, blahda, blah.

The whole structure of it and,
and, and go through it using the

new practice and protocol of,
of not having my no, but my yes.

Yes to the experience.

Thank you.

May I have more?

And as I've been using this
technique, and this is where I've

arrived at this morning, is that
there's a completeness to it.

There's a, there's like a getting
to 100% activation and truth of the

technique that creates an unlock.

It's the, the kind of the, the opening
with a mastery that there's a, there's

a greater awareness and truth that
comes from, from really being a full

yes, a really being a full thank you,
a really being yes, may I have more.

And what happened this morning was
that this yes, this may I have more,

thank you, came from this place of this
like establishing it, I guess, at a

deeper level of mastery or awareness
or gnosis or whatever the thing

that's going on, of this understanding
that All of these are just the

egoic consciousness crying for help.

All of these are just the egoic
consciousness says, "No, just

please help me," like, "I'm stuck.

Help me."

And all of the fear, all of the
struggle, everything that's arising

that I'd see as, "Oh, this is
no good, this is bad," whatever,

that's … Those are all just the ego.

And so from this knowingness of it's
just the ego calling for this, there's

It opens up this love in my being.

So s- there's this love of the experience,
and there's a yes and a thank you.

May I have some more?

And going deeper and deeper, and
then there … From this place,

there's a realization of, oh, well,
there's something behind all of this.

There's like a almost … or exactly
as if there's a light code generating

not just this fear, but all of them.

And so what I saw was there was some
thought in my head about the past,

and I was going into it, and then I'm
going, "Okay, well, what's behind this?

What's behind this?

What's the origination of it?"

And previously, I'd been looking for
it this as, like, a consciousness, but

what happened this morning was I was
shown the light code that represents the

past, the creation of fear of the past.

And then I'm like, "Yes, thank you.

May I have more?"

And then into gratitude for that
creation of all of the fear of all past.

You know?

And this is where everything's just
coming together, reminded that the

past is just a present moment creation.

Well, of course it is,
and I, and I could see it.

I could see the light code.

It's like this light code here, this
is the light code that's creating the

fear of the past and the turmoil and
the thinking, "Should I have done this?"

and, "Maybe I should have done that,"
and, "I should say sorry for this,"

and the blahda, blahda, blahda.

And I'm, like, looking at it going, "Oh.

Oh, okay."

Yes.

Thank you.

May I have more?

Having gratitude for the experience.

And then seeing the light
code for the future.

Not about thinking about the future,
but about thinking about the future

in fear, the fear of the future

And it's not like I was trying to look
for it, it's just some fear of the,

the future came, and then I looked at
that fear of the future, and then I

was a yes to it and welcoming more,
and then I could see the origin because

I was welcoming more so fully and
completely that I got to the whole of it

And then yes and thank you
and more and gratitude.

And then the fear of the
now, this present moment

Well, fear of survival, fear of lack

And seeing that I'm the one
creating all of these things, the

separation, that was a big one

'Cause the truth is

All of us, everyone on the planet
right now is source consciousness and

creator consciousness together creating

Creating right now.

Everyone's doing it.

There is no separation.

There's just a perception

There's just a perception in the program
of separation, of lack, of fear, and

these deep allegiances to that, and we
just look at it and see it for what it

is, then everything just starts to unwind

And Bhagwan said, "See
and you'll be free."

You know?

I keep on wanting, you know, this, oh,
I just wanna bring the ego consciousness

home, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Love it back to wholeness,
blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it's like, well, yeah, you know, you
know, the, you know, the fine print it

seems, at least for me, from my experience

Is that, you know, you know, the fine
print is, well, you know, it, it's

like mechanism by mechanism, you know?

See- seeing it loving each mechanism

And recognizing that's not

you know, I guess having gratitude
for it and then through that process

There's a, there's a letting go completion

So it's not over yet.

You know, the journey, journey continues.

And at the same time this morning,
there was this profound moment

of just this beingness out of the
separation, out of the lack, out

of the scarcity, just in the, in
the beingness of what and who I am.

Oh, I'm tuning into it a bit now.

And that everything just…

I mean, that everything's just okay

And so going back to the teaching from,
uh, that Netherlands dude who lived

in Sedona, I can't remember his name.

You know, whatever the f- you know,
however, create an extraordinary,

sort of accelerated life guy.

Um- Bentinho.

Bentinho.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Bentinho.

Of, you know, it's your frequency now,
and this is what the she said, it's our

frequency now that's creating the future.

That's it

Right, and all of this after, you
know, starting the day with this

desperate futility and hopelessness,
and that's how yesterday started.

So, you know, if you get to this
place of desperation and hopelessness

And how can anything ever possibly work?

And nothing's gonna work ever and it's
been so hard and so long, and what

That's a good place to be 'cause you're
ready for a breakthrough, so keep going.

And it, you know, I'm reminded
of what, what's been really with

me yesterday, all day yesterday
from this place of hopelessness.

This place of like, I don't-- feeling
terrible and not knowing how I can

function, was the, really the poster in
the, our office of trust the process.

Trust the process

At some level, there is nothing
else other than trust the process.

What else is there?

Trust the mind?

Like, come on

Uh, yeah.

So I guess we have a choice there

I think this is why that
I'm just feeling this now.

This is why the she say it's inevitable

Because it's already true now.

And when we just choose to trust
the process and keep going,

everything will just happen.

It is inevitable

Audree: Okay.

Take two

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Welcome to our living room

So Michael just recorded his,
kind of, uh, his experience and

insights for personal use, and I
was sitting here listening to it.

Of course, I always think it's
just an apology that he can't say

to me, so he records something

Yeah

And

It's, uh, just his experience.

So he wasn't really recording
it for anybody, uh, but himself.

And, uh, it's what you just listened to

So now we're just having a
little discussion about it.

And, um

You know, it, it's so true.

Like, it, so

life brings you a lot of things

I'm not sure why I'm getting emotional

Speaker 2: Mm.

Audree: You know, it becomes difficult
to navigate, and then there's all

these spiritual teachings, surrender,
let go, you know, be in the flow.

Or- Like, m- I don't even know
what the spiritual teachings

say anymore 'cause I don't…

We've moved so far past it that
I've kinda just forgot about it.

Um, but it's just like-

Speaker 2: There's a reason for it.

Audree: Oh.

I mean, even what we say, "Oh,
you're creating it," yeah.

There's a…

I mean, like, even on this
podcast, you know, even Michael…

I, I was like, "Michael, I think
that's a podcast," and he's

like, "Why is that a podcast?

It's not really helpful."

You know, and, and, and
that, and that's the truth.

It's, it's that our podcasts,
while there's a transmission here-

Michael: It's like what the
she say is that, you know, 100%

is the energetic transmission.

Everything else is just for entertainment.

Now I get it.

Yeah.

E- except for one thing.

Like, when somebody says, "Just let go.

Just surrender.

Just listen.

Just be in the flow."

Well- Like, if you don't really
know how to do, like, the

technique- You need the mechanics.

You need the step-by-step.

You need the training
guide to, to do that.

Like- Right.

It, it becomes this concept that people
are like, "Oh, yeah, that's what I'll do."

You know, and that's where that, you
know, the love and light and the, the

spiritual bypass comes in because it's
like it's not that people wanna…

You know, maybe they do wanna do- Okay

Audree: the spiritual bypass and not do
the work, 'cause work is fucking hard.

Um, it's, it's also they don't know how
to, so it's much easier to just be in the

light, be in the I and the Father are one.

Uh, that's a great one.

Oh, my gosh.

That's from Joe Goldsmith,
I and the Father are one.

It makes so much sense.

Just be in the stillness.

Be in the presence.

Be in the silence.

Be in the presence.

Be in the spacious presence.

And all those things are true
when you know how to get there.

And maintaining that state is
impossible unless you've gone through

the purification process, unless you
actually know how to do the purification

process to get to that state.

What?

Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just realizing
there's a huge trap because

it's like, "Oh, just surrender.

Just be in the flow.

Just-" That's, yeah … and then there's
a, there's an implicit assumption, this is

the big lie that people fall for and are
in, is that, "Oh, I just need to do that."

Audree: Right, or

Speaker 2: you

Audree: sit in front of a guru.

And

Speaker 2: somehow, somehow by awareness
and choice, I can just be in the flow.

Michael: I can just surrender.

I can look at a situation, and I can
figure out with my mind how to surrender.

I mean- … that's the lie.

Mm-hmm.

You can't figure it out with your mind.

Mm-mm.

It's your mind that's the problem.

You're the problem, you're the solution.

So- Ah

Audree: I think it's really
helpful to listen to the first

part of the podcast over and over.

So M- Michael shared
something very profound

It's, m- so Michael and I have been
doing this together for almost 10 years.

Separately, we've been
doing it on our own.

I mean, I've been doing
this my whole life.

I don't know how long it was for
Michael, at least in the early 2000s.

You see

And now it's, you know, you don't know?

It's June 2026, and Michael's
having this huge revelation

We're still having huge revelations.

If you even, even for me, like let's,
let's say you just go for my journey

that started in the early 1990s when
somebody handed me a book from Carlos

Ca- Ca- Castaneda or the Don Juan.

Carlos Castaneda?

Speaker 2: The- Is it The
Four Agreements or something?

Audree: No, no, no, no.

Not The Four Agreements.

It's Don-

Speaker 2: I don't know

… Audree: Don Juan something.

Speaker 2: It didn't even start
there, for you were born mystical.

Audree: I was born mystical, but-

Speaker 2: Like like, like
yeah, that's not enough.

Audree: I was born mystical, but … And,
um, I was a massage therapist at

the Four Seasons in Chicago, and
there was a woman that came in to

get a massage, and we were talking.

At the time, I didn't understand
who she was connected to.

She was a huge devotee
of Osho, and she ga-

Oh, I didn't meet her at the Four Seasons.

This is interesting.

She worked at Leo Burnett when
I was, when I was doing the,

um, when I was waitressing.

Hmm.

And she gave me these books to read and,
and, and The Celestine Prophecy, I think.

And it just blew my mind open.

I was already, like, interested in that
stuff, going to Transitions bookstores

and, and reading books, and it was
her that kinda just opened me up.

And then I, I remember she came…

She stayed at the Four Seasons a couple
times and came and got massages when I

left, um, the restaurant and went there,
and then we went shopping a couple times.

She was, like, kinda mentoring
me, and I knew she had a guru,

and she was telling me they just
bought the guru another Bentley.

And I was like, I didn't even
know what a guru was and I was

just like, "Yeah, whatever."

But…

And at the time, I didn't understand.

And, and then I, I…

And then- … you know, 30 years
later, I was like, oh, I, she was…

I met another devotee of Osho.

And, um, and then I, I put
the two and two together.

I do have a connection with Osho.

I don't know why.

Anyways

Even, even then, even then all this
time, and we're still working at it.

We're still having the insights.

We're still on the path.

We're still using the
tools and techniques.

Even now, Michael's having this revelation
of, of a deeper sense of surrender

A deeper understanding, a deeper
revelation, a deeper insight

of, of what that truly means.

W-

Speaker 2: what-

Audree: Or, or how to, how to even do it.

Speaker 2: Well, you know, so this
is where it's like, you know, without

a understanding- No, nobody knows.

Okay.

Well, you don't know this, or maybe
you do know this, or you think you

know this, or it doesn't really matter.

Michael: What if it were true that to
the extent that you can fully understand

and trust the perfection of all creation,

including all the so-called negative
stuff that you wanna change in your

life, and understanding that there's a
perfection in it, there is no surrender

'Cause you're still in resistance
'Cause you're still in resistance.

You're still not a yes to the experience.

You're still not seeing the wonder
and the, the extraordinariness

of, of every act of creation.

That's why that's spiritual teaching.

What you resist must-
Must persist … persist.

Yes.

That's what it means.

Or the Vulgon Constructor
Fleetguard, right?

Resistance is futile.

I like the Douglas Adams version.

Yes.

So, so that's why the post, that's
what the trust the po- the process-

The blth … trust the process poster.

Hard to say.

Yes, it is.

Yeah.

Hard to do.

The poster of trust the process.

Uh-huh.

Hard to say and very hard to … So
even- That, that, it- Even this teaching.

Trust the process.

Audree: Well, how the fuck am I
supposed to trust the, the, the process?

Like, how am I, how am I-
Yeah … supposed to trust the

process- Well- … when all, like,
you're, you're having a tower moment.

Mm-hmm.

Like, the tower card in the tarot.

Like, everything is f- Burning
down … falling apart.

Everything is burning.

And

Speaker 2: so good.

Audree: And you're jumping out the window.

And

Speaker 2: excited about
it all burning down.

Audree: But, but n- normally, you're not.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Well, I, 'cause we, I, 'cause I,
I worked through my no finally.

Audree: Even- Or most of it … working
through the no, even getting to the

yes, there's still pieces of no.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Audree: Like, y- Mm … I think, I
think what, what people don't realize,

or maybe they do and they're just in
denial or self-deception or ignoring it,

is the depth of that no, the depth of
the resistance that's actually there.

And no love and light is going to pull
you out of it until you can go all the

way through it, which is in layers,
'cause you can't handle it all at once

And to really, really sink in.

I mean, I can, I can, I can mention
some very, very traumatic events

that could possibly happen to you

And, and here's the thing.

If you're resisting it, if you're
judging it, if you're hating it, if you

wish it were different, if you wanna
try to use a tool or technique to, to

magically make it go away, like that
will give you some sense of relief.

But it'll never ever, ever fully bring
you into the transmutation and the healing

and the transformation to shift into a
permanent state of higher consciousness.

And if you think about your life,
there are many, many moments.

What's interesting, what's coming…

Go ahead and then I'll,
I'll, I'll share my story.

Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

I don't know if I said it in
this, the audio this morn- that

I recorded, but there was this
profound moment of just seeing

Michael: That

while it's useful to connect in with the
truth, you know, I am source consciousness

or creator consciousness or blah, blah,
blah, or high frequency and so on, um,

while there's extraordinary value in
it, that's not the-- that's not the--

that's not-- that's just a scaffolding.

That the core of it is exactly what we
have on that T-shirt, you know, it's

me or it's time of moving and removing
all the layers, all the triangles, all

the misperceptions, all the wounding.

Uh, because really Um, that's
what the whole thing is.

We're removing the misperceptions, and
so seeing it at this level of depth

and completeness, that all we're really
doing is removing the misperceptions.

And when we've removed the misperceptions,
we're in the truth of what and who we are.

So there, there is no journey to go on.

That's kind of the whole, the
whole punchline of the thing.

There's just an apparent journey
that seems like a journey, but then

eventually, um, you know, we realize
that, oh, well, it's actually just my

perception that was off, and everything's
actually just fine, and I am source

consciousness, and I have all supply.

And, and so that's kind of the,
like the, the, the feelings that's

kind of just starting to open up.

So, um, so that's what I wanted to share.

Yeah.

It's the falling away of the lies, falling
away of the misperceptions, falling away

of the distortions, falling away of the
allegiance, the identification with the…

And, you know, the resistance and the
judgment and, of all of it, right?

And so when we, we're no longer resisting
it, then we're in this seeing the

perfection of creation is the lack,
is the dropping of all resistance.

Mm-hmm.

So resistance, seeing as creation,
surrendering, this is all one thing.

It's not like it's a different thing.

'Cause there's just one
evolutionary path, and we're…

You know, people have been using
different words to describe that.

But it's this complete letting go of all
resistance to all aspects of the egoic

consciousness to the point where once
you've seen them and recognize them for

what they are, just a misperception,
have gratitude for the whole thing,

then all of it just collapses.

That collapses the whole,
the whole structure.

And so, but it's not trying to collapse.

It's not resisting.

It's not wanting to change.

It's not hating it, not judging it,
not loving it, none of those things.

It's just seeing it exactly for what
it is from the full mechanics, and

seeing the full mechanics of it is
what in-- disrupts the, the wave

pattern and causes the whole collapse.

Audree: Yeah.

Gratitude is not what you think it is.

It is not thank you.

Gra- gratitude is actually, I, I
don't even know how to, how to explain

it, but it's a mechanic of creation.

We're not gonna go into
it, but here's the deal.

The, the thing that's coming up
for me is this podcast will not,

I repeat, this podcast will not…

is not a one and done.

Like, this podcast We created it, we share
it to share what the journey of evolution

of consciousness and healing is about

Speaker 2: To be honest about the
journey and inspire the journey

Audree: Yes.

It is-

Speaker 2: And awaken, awaken
kind of like a call or a pull

Audree: Yes.

It is not the journey itself.

That's why sitting in front of a guru
and listening to satsang is not the

journey, and I think that that's where
people have a misconception because

even when you sit in front of a guru
who's h- who has been through the

journey and/or some sort of spontaneous
awakening and holds the transmission of

the journey, it's still an inspiration.

It's still exactly what this pod-
technically this podcast is satsang.

If anybody here knows what satsang
is, it is … It, it's like sitting

in front of the, the teacher and
the teacher is sharing knowledge in

a transmission, yet after satsang
you go and you do the processes.

You go and do the teaching.

The … I mean, there's way more to
the, the, the, the evolutionary journey.

And so we're only sharing what the journey
is like from our personal experience

Speaker 2: Lived experience

Audree: Lived experience

Speaker 2: Moment by moment

Audree: Mm-hmm, and sometimes
we do it even live on, on the,

on the podcast itself because
we're always on the journey.

We're always in it.

You know, it's not like, "Oh, I go to
a retreat and I do this thing, and then

I come home and I don't do anything."

And I think even when we went
to oneness that, that's what was

happening, and it created a, first
of all, dependence on going to India.

And second, it was … There was no
ability to kinda hold a high vibrational

state if you weren't integrating it into
your daily life, the application piece.

Like lived experience means in your
relationships, how you're relating to

the world and the people around you,
how you're relating, you know, all

those different aspects of your life.

Hmm.

But what I wanted to share was, um, that
there's a story that I heard in India

about, um … So where we were in India
was at the kind of the foot of the sacred

forest, so all the land was sacred.

And what's interesting is the land itself,
like if you walk on the land, you'll, you

would, you'll find crystals just laying on
the ground, and they were very specific,

"Please don't pick up the crystals.

They need to be here on the ground."

You know?

Um, that's another story
t- for another day.

But, um, what they said was the reason
why they picked this spot was that it

was well-known throughout time in history
of that, of that area that people would

go there, they would go to the sacred
forest and live and become saints.

They would have these incredible
awakening experiences.

And, you know, it's really interesting,
all the stories about the light beings.

There's like m- massive amounts
of like activity, like UFO

activity in that same area

Anyways, um, so the area was very sacred,
very holy, and the people would go there.

And they were already these beings
that were on some sort of spiritual

path, but they wanted the full
attainment, so they went to the forest.

And every single one of them that, that
became enlightened and became a saint had

the same event happen, and that was that
there was this moment where they rolled

… There was like a, an instantaneous,
uh, retrospective of their lives.

Like, normally you would have it,
like, when you die, you have a life

review, and in that life review,
you, you have the experience of

the impact and the consequences
and how your incarnation lived.

And then you would decide
whether or not you wanted to

Speaker 2: be re- Yeah, that's, that's
not … That's in the past, though

… Audree: reincarnated and so on- That's not
the mechanism anymore … and whatever.

I, I know.

I'm just telling the story of
what I heard from the monk.

Mm-hmm.

So what they were saying was
that what they figured out was

that this event experience can be

created on purpose.

And that's if you do the work in
your life, in the purification,

you will also reach those
higher states of consciousness.

The m- the, the saints had a mystical
experience that was a happening

that just gave them that experience,
and they had a full purif- like,

an instant purification moment

That's how Oneness explained what they do

What?

Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know,
Bhagwan told the story about, uh

The Buddha, right?

And the, the, and the, and the version,
I mean, so I'm, I'm not, I'm not

super, I mean, I am super mystical
in some ways, but not in other ways.

Like, I don't know what the stuff about
the past and so on, um, these details.

But Bhagwan said some, a light being came
by and endowed him with that awakening,

and that's, that's the understanding
that I have, that that was the mechanism.

Michael: He also fought- It's not like
there was a- … his demons- Yeah, well,

it's when he- … that day … it's
when he, it's when he gave up, and

then a light being came by and said,
"Okay, yeah, I'll, I'll give this to

you 'cause you're, you're ready," right?

And so I think, you know, for those, you
know, saints in Christian tradition, and

like, I think that's my understanding,
and that's, I think, that she talked

about it, one mechanism, is that that
mechanism of a light being giving

attainment of enlightenment is not a,
is not something that's happening more,

that that's no longer a, a mechanism
that exists because the, the, the, the

structure has changed with the ending.

That was, that was just for
the time of the deviation.

It's not- Even, even if, I never heard-
Now, now all there is left is this path-

I never heard the story about- … of
self-mastery … so I never heard the

story about the light being, but this is
the interesting thing about the story.

That's what Bhagwan said, yeah.

Audree: Okay.

The s- but the story of Buddha is
very interesting and well-known.

He gave up.

He went to sleep, meaning if you take
that as a metaphor, he just gave up.

He's just like, he did the,
the, um, uh, what is…

I, I forgot what it's called,
but he, he did the, you know, he

let go of all of his possessions.

He went into the forest.

He meditated every day.

He fasted.

He let go, he let go,
he let go, he let go.

He surrendered, he surrendered,
he surrendered, and nothing

ever happened for all

Speaker 2: these months.

Well, he surrendered
his path of evolution.

And then, so the final thing
was he gave up even the p- the

evolution or the attainment.

Audree: Yeah, and then the story
is, is that night or day, all

he did was battle his demons.

Like, it was, or a demon,
whatever the, the story is.

There's

Speaker 2: always demons involved,
'cause that's what we're doing, is we're-

Audree: Well, that, I know … working

Speaker 2: through

Audree: our darkness.

Yeah.

That's the ego.

You know, it's like-

And then he gave up and he
just went to sleep, and he

woke up and he was enlightened

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what, see that,
uh, you know, that's what, that's I

think what's kinda been a fun thing
for the journey that I've been on.

It's like, well, you know, one day it's
just gonna happen, and it's like, you

know, I'm getting this dawning realization
that that's not how it works anymore.

Michael: Because, like, 'cause what
I'm seeing here is just this, this

unfolding in the understanding of
the me- mechanics of creation, that

as, as, as there's this realization

Right.

So when I look at the mechanics now
from this moment, that what they're

doing is they're, they're moving us out
of a distorted perception into a true,

true perception or truer perception.

And then when we can fully see the full
true perception, everything's just done.

Like there's nothing-- I mean, so,
so that's kind of all we're doing is

we're, you know, taking off the, the,
the distorted glasses that are making

everything look weird and wonky, so we can
actually see r- see reality clearly, see

ourselves clearly without the distortion.

Audree: This is not mindfulness, folks

You know, m- m- even in those teachings,
uh, well, I don't know anything about

mi- mindfulness, but people keep
saying awareness, awareness, awareness.

Have awareness, have awareness, but they
don't tell you why you have awareness.

They don't tell you the
mechanics of awareness.

They don't tell you the
mechanics of gratitude.

They don't even tell you the laws
of the universe and the mechanics of

creation, and you need that knowledge
base, because knowledge is power.

That's what that means.

Knowledge is power, but
it's not just knowledge.

After knowledge comes a choice, and
you have a choice because you have

the tools and techniques, so you're,
you know you're supported by your own

mastery of these tools and techniques
that you can go through into any

situation at any moment in time and
handle it and navigate through it

What did Bhagwan used to say?

Hit the ball out of the park.

Life is like the cricket
ball and you're the player

And you have the skills and
the tools and the experience

But what do we know?

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Audree: We know nothing

Speaker 2: So have you figured out why
it's not correct to give an apology?

Audree: Oh, you hate that

Speaker 2: No, d- d- no, I'm
just talk- I, no I, I just-

Just go, just go to mechanics

Audree: I, I'm just … I know- Go to
mechanics I understand the mechanics Well,

Speaker 2: just explain it

Audree: Explain the mechanics?

Speaker 2: Yeah, explain the mechanics,
why it's not correct to give an apology

Audree: Well, I'm creating the
situation, first of all, so

it has nothing to do with you

Speaker 2: Okay.

Michael: What else?

It ties into this whole conversation.

Or do you want me to share my perspective?

I want you to share your perspective,
and then I'll make a comment.

Yeah.

Yeah, so

So

Y- so this came up for me when
I was looking at, there was this

activation of the past of, oh, you
know, may- what should I have done?

You know, maybe I should have, you know,
just, just slowed down and just breathed

with Audrey or, you know, like what…

Like, and I was going like,
"Okay, what am I doing here?"

Like, what I'm, what I'm doing here
is I'm saying whatever happened,

I'm actually judging creation.

I'm saying whatever happened was
not the correct thing to happen.

I'm saying that whatever
I did wasn't good enough.

Like, I'm in judgment of creation,
and in that judgment of creation

I'm not accepting the
perfection of creation.

I'm not actually seeing how each thing
was created and is perfect in its creation

Like I'm feeling right now at the, at the
edge of, of words where I can't express

the greater reality that we're
part of that we don't have an

opening and awareness to it

So within the limited egoic identified
human perspective of, you know, I am

Michael and Audrey is Audrey, and, you
know, there's a situation and let me learn

how to navigate this situation better and
what can I change and what can I improve?

Within that context, of course, there's
like, oh, yes, it's good to apologize

and take responsibility for my behavior.

And, and, you know, and then, then
I, then I back out of that and I

look from, from this perspective,
this greater perspective and saying,

"Wow, that was the perfect situation.

My goodness, I've had so
much growth out of this."

Like, I've been able to move through
this block, this block, this block,

see this limitation, have gratitude,
let it go, and move through so much.

If that hadn't happened, none of what
unfolded from it would have happened.

And right now, I'm judging creation.

I'm thinking that some other
life path would have been better

than the one that I am now.

And I'm seeing that this, this thinking,
this judgment is the construct of the

egoic consciousness telling me that

Then that's the next piece
to work through, let go.

And so what happened with that thought of,
oh, what could I have done differently?

It wasn't about apology.

You're, you're right about that.

But, but what could I
have done differently?

Like, or how could I take responsibility?

Or what, what could I have done
to not have that event happen?

I realized that I was, when we
do that, we're not taking the

gift of that moment in fully.

That was my realization.

So that, that questioning of, of, of,
you know, it's been my lifelong thing

of, okay, what can I do differently?

How can I improve?

You know, let me, let me
look at the situation.

That's not what I wanna create.

Audree: What a horrible way to live.

Speaker 2: What?

Audree: I said, what a
horrible way to live.

Like, that was never my intent

That situ- the situation
that we had last night.

Uh-huh.

So Michael and I got in a
fight last night, in case

anybody's not picking that up.

Um, but it was from a triggered event

And I was, I was not, I was not, I was
triggered, but not about the situation.

And I was trying to
ask Michael a question.

Speaker 2: You were deeply
triggered about the situation.

Michael: There's this, this hack- No,
then you, then you pulled me out of it.

You're like, "Audrey,
that's, that's just spam.

That's a spam letter."

Yeah.

And I was like, "Oh, okay."

And I was pulling myself out of it,
and then I had a question about-

No, no, you were still deeply in it.

That's the part you, you're
not, you're not getting Okay.

Audree: So, so I'm letting you
know, you don't know, you do not,

you do not, nobody should assume-

Speaker 2: Well, when you're
shouting at me, that's a pretty

good clue that you're in a charge.

Audree: I wasn't shouting at you.

Oh,

Speaker 2: yes you were.

Audree: No, I, I, I was at the- You were

Speaker 2: screaming at me.

Audree: At the end I was,
'cause you weren't listening.

You're still not listening

You know, you're still not listening.

Like, that, I think that that's
what the, the issue is So

Speaker 2: what if I don't listen to you?

How is that a problem?

Audree: Well, first of all, and then I'm
creating a relationship where somebody's

not listening to me, and I need to,
to really look at, you know, why am I

doing that, and do I wanna continue?

Michael: Mm.

There's all kinds of things going on.

Mm.

You know?

But my intention when you're speaking
now about how you're reacting, how

could I have done this better, all
these things, my heart just totally

opens, and it's like, wow, I don't
wanna create that situation for anyone.

Like, that's not my intention
to cause pain and suffering.

Right, 'cause behind how could I have
done this situation better, there's this

implicit of I'm not good enough, I did
something wrong, and, and, and there's

all this low frequency connected with it.

So the whole, you know, structure of
it- But do you see how you're, you're

triggered in reacting to a situation
that that was not my intention

Ever.

Audree: Like my heart just breaks
actually hearing like what the

truth of what was going on with you.

Mm.

'Cause that's not, that's not what my,
ever is my intention to do that to you

gives me

You see, when, when we are triggered,
we trigger the other person, and

we can't assume what the other
person is going through, ever

Because you're not reading their minds.

You might be able to feel or sense or
whatever from their reaction, but you

don't really know the truth, and your
mind is gonna try to make up a story

'cause your mind is there to define
your experience to make you feel safe

And what I know about being in a
relationship is that relationship

is just two egos in the same
room reacting to each other.

Speaker 2: Mm.

Audree: We're never living source
consciousness to source consciousness

That's why they say
relationship is for waking up.

That's what you use relationship for.

Speaker 2: 'Cause all you perceive
is your own misperceptions.

Audree: Exactly.

Speaker 2: And then project
it on the other person.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: It's perfect.

It's actually perfect for waking up-

Audree: It is perfect for waking up

… Speaker 2: when you have the tools.

Audree: But then when
you wake up, then what?

If you're really awake,
you'll never be triggered.

Like, when you're in a permanent
state of higher consciousness,

you just won't be triggered.

But I guarantee you the other person will.

Like, I'm reminded of
the three days in London.

Right.

Where just you were per- your
perceptions were coming at me.

Mm-hmm.

And I could feel them just sliding off.

Feel it was dropping, yeah.

And my, there was nothing hitting me.

I was not triggered by anything,
and I was just in a state

There was no mind whatsoever
There was no thought.

There was just experience
with no definition to it

Michael: Oof.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I just had a
profound letting go scene

Audree: Do you wanna know the question
I was gonna ask you last night?

I-

Speaker 2: isn't, isn't that the book?

You know, From Fucky to Thank you, right?

Audree: It is.

I just wanted to know, are you sure we
have homeowners insurance right now?

Y- yeah, it gets

Speaker 2: paid by the
bank automatically when

Audree: we

Speaker 2: move

Audree: out.

Yeah We'll, we'll talk
about it offline- Yeah, yeah

but there's-

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

It is

… Audree: we should double-check.

Speaker 2: No, it's, it's done.

I know.

I know when the renewal happened.

I know all the stuff.

Audree: Okay.

Speaker 2: It's all good.

Audree: I have more questions.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Audree: That's all.

Speaker 2: Very good

See how easy that is?

Audree: That's all I was trying to s-
that's why you, and then you s- shut

down and you're like, "You're triggered.

I'm not gonna talk to you now."

And then I, I go berserk

Because in the moment, we could
both breathe, stop and breathe, and

become untriggered and then carry on.

But you got triggered, so you
couldn't, you couldn't do that either.

I was triggered, so I couldn't do
that either, and, and then it, it

just, like, everything fell apart

Michael: Well

I think we're coming up on time.

Is there anything else
you wanna say or share?

It reminds me of the, the
government and disclosure day

Audree: you know, treating the, the
ETs as a national security threat

instead of listening

and being open

Maybe they are, maybe they're not.

Or we're creating reality

Speaker 2: Well, they showed them once,
one, one clip was about people talking

to, you know, going in for a meeting.

Another one was about them being…

Whatever, I'm not gonna go into it.

But, um, so it's, it was ambiguous
from the movie perspective.

That wasn't the point of the movie

Audree: Maybe it was

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Michael: Hmm But when we go around
treating everybody as a threat,

or they did something wrong, or
automatically blaming them, or, you

know, they're not good enough, they're
not gonna take care of me, they're

not gonna, you know, they're…

Or the boss that's, you know, or the
other, the coworker that's trying to take

your role or, you know, like if you, if
you live life from a state of everybody's

against me, then you're gonna create
the life that everybody's against you.

Audree: And when you go deeper into
that, you just, you, you see how the

ego is just creating damage to you

Speaker 2: Or technically how
you are creating damage to you

Audree: Right and, and, and in the
self-deception or the deflection would be

to think that it's the world around you

So you don't see what's really going on.

That's the smoke and mirrors

And that's why we, we think that the
government's hiding things from us because

we're hiding things from our own self.

And we stop, when we stop doing that to
ourselves, the world around you changes.

The world around you
actually magically opens up.

And I say the word magically
because it is instantaneous.

It's not a fantasy magic.

It is just the laws of creation
and the dynamics of which

we are experiencing reality

That's why there's work to do

Speaker 2: That's why
you can do it yourself

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: It's up to you and you
need to figure out how to get there

All right.

Ready to close?

Audree: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Let's take three
minutes for the E2 mantra.

Just tune into the frequency

Michael: Thank you for joining us

Let's be evolutionary