B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Audree: It's not like reflexes like a cat.

So first of all, Michael just threw the,
the, the microphone at me and I literally,

Michael: I think it threw it to you.

It wasn't quite at you.

Audree: I literally caught
it with my hand in mid air.

Uh, I wasn't even looking
and I caught it like so.

Michael: Well, normally
you can't catch things.

So that's what I was, I was like, what?

What's going on here?

Audree: I know.

This is, we're talking about.

Well, hey, we're talking.

We're sitting in our living room.

Welcome.

We're not welcome.

Um, thanks for joining

Michael: us.

You can't.

Audree: I know.

Um.

Being

Michael: those language

Audree: so tricky.

One of the, so why are we evolving?

It's to improve ourselves.

Like, and we don't even understand.

It's like when the mind gets
clear or the egoic consciousness

transmutes and transforms.

We, you know, Joe Dispenza
wrote this book, supernatural.

And that's what it seems like.

And even the mystics talk about
getting these city powers, these,

you know, these superpowers and
your superpowers come online.

I mean, you know, everybody knows we're
not using our whole brain, we're using

like less than 10% of our brain capacity.

But so that super reflex that I
just had, that cat-like reflex of

catching the, the, the microphone.

When you're clear, that's what happens.

Michael: Well, 'cause
the mind's not active.

The mind's not trying to catch it.

It's, it's the, the body.

No,

Audree: it's just the

Michael: operating without
the interference of the mind.

Audree: And actually there's, there's
science that the brain act, the

brain responds to things to move
the body before the event actually

happens, which is a, like a crazy
phenomenon when you think about it.

The brain sees into the
future, which is so weird.

Michael: Well, it's not the brain per se.

It's the, it's the, the, the system of
consciousness that's integrated into

physiology is, is, is beyond temporal.

Yes.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Which actually just ties
into the deeper mechanics of creation.

Audree: Exactly.

Which is

Michael: where you can see all,
we can just see all the timelines

together and so on and so on.

Right?

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Anyway, so what
did you wanna talk about?

There was something like, kind of
fascinating burning through you.

Oh

Audree: my God, what do
I want to talk about?

So it's still unraveling in my being.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

You had a good one.

Audree: Yeah.

Really deep one.

So

Michael: it had to be deep, because
normally you're done in like five seconds.

This one took you a good five minutes.

Audree: Yeah.

And I'm still processing through it.

I, and

there's so much here.

That's why I said, oh, we're
gonna need to mic up for this

one because it's super deep.

Okay.

Uh, short backstory, I, this
morning right before I woke

up, I had a very intense dream.

And just on a high level,
the dream was about my godson

and, um, just this in the dream, there
was just this intense pull to be with him.

Like, what?

Michael: Well,

we'll, we'll go into it.

So technically he is your grandson.

Yeah, because Lindsay,

Audree: let's not,

Michael: let's li like, like
there's actually like a connection

that you have with Lindsay where
she's actually your daughter.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: It's just, it didn't
work out that biologic that you're

her daughter, but incarnation.

She was your daughter.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: In this lifetime, in a, in a,
we're not gonna go into what happened.

Audree: So, you know,

Michael: so, so, so he actually is your

Audree: my

Michael: grand only living grandson.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Energetically.

Audree: Yeah.

So I was there at his birth.

Michael: Anyway, that's, that's,
yeah, that's the download I just got.

Audree: Okay.

This is all true.

So, you know, so like, you
know, when you meet somebody

and you have this very, very.

Strong connection to them.

They feel like family, they feel
familiar, that like, kind of

that's what we're talking about.

So my familiarity with Lindsay
and Lindsay was our, we did some

self-publishing through her, her we, yeah.

We actually, um, we actually really
helped her launch her work in the world

Michael: and, you know, follow her
life dream of moving to Arizona.

Mm-hmm.

And like everything just opened up for

Audree: her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, um,

Michael: that was your help with her.

Audree: She, she, um,

Michael: getting her
unblocked around that.

Audree: Right.

But she was, you know, when I first
met her, um, Michael had also first

met her like a few months prior too.

And this is in the beginning of Michael
and I, our relationship when we first met.

And he, Michael had an idea for a book
about emotions and then he met Lindsay

who was starting a self-publishing house.

Michael: It had gotten guidance
about doing a book around emotions

and working on something, so,

Audree: yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, so they connected and then I'm wanna
get better emotions or something when,

um, and then when Michael connected,
Michael was having the very first

publishing session with Lindsay and he
is like, do you want to sit in on this?

And I realized while I was, you know,
listening and watching them, you

know, move through, like what this
book will be about and what do you

want to say and things like that.

I was like, I had so much input.

And then Michael's like, why
don't we write the book together?

And that's how, um, emotional started.

Emotional science.

Emotional science, the key to high
performance, how that book began.

But when, and not, but.

And when I was working with Lindsay,
we both had this like sense and feeling

like we've been together before,
we know each other, and, and then

the memories just started coming.

And, and so we, we, um, I guess that's
what happens when you're mystical and,

and Lindsay's also highly mystical.

So it was just like this explosion of
understanding and knowledge and, um, and

so I basically, a year and a half ago,
um, while she, when she was pregnant,

I, like, I knew I had to be with her.

Like when she was in, in the labor and
delivery room and she had asked me,

she's like, my mom can't do this for me.

I don't really have anybody else.

Will you be in the room
with me and my husband?

And I said, of course I'll be there.

And it was extraordinary.

And

Michael: oh, that was a
good story on its own.

Audree: Oh my God.

'cause she was giving she, yeah.

I don't even know where to go.

The

Michael: story within stories.

Within stories.

I know.

Why don't you come back to the target.

Audree: Yeah.

So, so anyways, so that, that is,
um, that's Lindsay and her son.

Um, all during her pregnancy, I was having
dreams about, uh, about her son, um, you

know, before he was born and he was every
dream he was talking to me and we had

such, such deep, deep, deep connection.

So this morning I had this
dream and it was just this.

And in the dream, I was recognizing
that all these people were

getting to be with, with him.

I'm not gonna say his name
because I don't wanna mm-hmm.

You know, um,

everybody got to be with him and care for
him and, and be with, with his parents.

And, and I was kind of left out and
I was having this feeling of being

jealous, of being, you know, not more,
maybe jealousy is not the right word,

but it was just like, it was like a

Michael: longing

Audree: to be with him.

There was a longing to be, to be with him,
you know, and why can't I be with him?

And so in the dream I was telling, I
was saying, oh my God, I'm having this

like, in, in, I was ex in my dream.

I was experiencing for the first time.

This very, very powerful longing of
wanting to spend time with him and

wanting to, to be physically with him.

It was like this pole and
this draw that was so intense.

And in the dream, I was telling his
parents, I, we were sitting having

dinner and I was like, this is
like, I've never felt this before.

I don't know what's happening.

And so I woke up from this dream and
I was like, oh, Michael, I had the

strangest dream ever, you know, and
it, I don't even know what it means.

And he is like, well, tell me about it.

So, uh, I told him about the
dream and, and I, I was like,

I don't know what it means.

Does it mean that I go
spend time with him?

Like, it feels like I need to
physically, physically spend time

with him, and I already know that, um.

I knew I was gonna be his godparent.

I knew that I was gonna have some
kind of relationship and connection

to him even before he was born.

Like, I knew, like I was going to be
a, a big part of his life in some way.

And it was about his mission
of this incarnation and his

evolutionary journey and, you know,
that there was something there.

And so Michael, you know, I know Michael
and Michael's like, ah, you know, I,

I like, I'm like, oh, you know, in the
dream we were living, our families were

living across the street from each other.

And where they live is not
somewhere where I desire to go.

And I know Michael for
sure not desire to go.

Michael: It's not about desires,
but whether it's correct.

Audree: Right.

And, you know, and it, and
it just is like, you know, I

can feel him getting angry.

Like I could feel his, the err,
I should say, err in his system.

Not angry.

Just the er in his system.

And so he's like, well, it, you
know, and then Michael starts saying,

well, you know, it's not like you're
supposed to be there all the time.

Like all of a sudden Michael starts
telling me like, what I should be doing or

Michael: I wasn't telling you what I
should be, what you should be doing.

That wasn't what I was saying.

Audree: What were you saying then?

Michael: What I was saying is I was
feeling energetically into the situation.

This is where the, when the, the
mind comes in, it creates distortion.

'cause that's not what was going on.

No,

Audree: this is, but this is important

Michael: for the process.

Yeah.

Audree: Explain the process.

Michael: Yeah.

I'll explain it.

So, mm-hmm.

So, I, I, I had no judgment
about whether Audrey spends more

or less time there whatsoever.

It was just like, what I was
just feeling energetically was.

The connection between Audrey and
this, this child, and what was going

on energetically with that connection
and what the call was in this moment.

The energetic call was for
Audrey to spend time with him.

And I'm feeling it and I go,
oh yeah, there's a call there.

This is correct.

This is what's supposed to be happening.

This is, this is what,
what needs to happen.

And then I was feeling into the
call and what was the call for?

And it didn't feel like a day, it didn't
feel like a month, it felt like a week.

So I said, oh, it feels like
there's a call to be with him.

And it feels like it's about a week.

It's not a month, it's not a day.

It's something like that.

And I'm saying this is not precise.

It's just like I'm feeling
energetically the structure of the call.

And that's what I, I'm sensing
energetically, I'm not saying I'm correct.

I'm not saying she should go do this.

I'm not saying she, it should happen now.

I'm not saying it should happen later.

I'm just saying I'm listening
to this energetic signature

and this is what I'm hearing.

Audree: So

Michael: that's what I was
intending to communicate.

Audree: And the feeling for me is, and

Michael: the interpretation that came up.

Yes.

Audree: Well, no, well, interpretation
and the, the sense and the

feeling for me is so overwhelming.

It doesn't feel like a week.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: It doesn't even feel like a month.

It feels more, way more permanent.

Michael: Like forever.

Audree: Like forever.

Mm-hmm.

That's what it feels like in my system.

So, so here's where, this is
where I'm, what I'm getting at.

So then I start sensing and feeling a
charge in my system and I'm, and, and you

actually say something about the charge.

Michael: Oh yeah.

So that was actually very interesting.

I've never done this before and
it's never actually happened because

I'm, I, I, I've been up since
3:00 AM and then I was in about.

F two and a half hours of,
of deep contemplation and let

going of deep egoic structures.

And so, and then, and
then working until now.

And it's like coming up
on nine 30 right now.

So, uh, so I was just, you

Audree: just had lunch?

Michael: Yeah.

I mean, I had like, had my
quote lunch ready Anyway, so

what, uh, and I had lunch.

'cause we don't eat,
I don't eat breakfast.

So that, that's what kind of why it
was lunch anyway, so, so, but this

is the first time it's happened in
our relationship that where I was

in a still place where Audrey said
something and I said, well, I, I

don't understand what you're saying.

Could you know, could you clarify?

And then she raised her
voice and started speaking.

I go, I go like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

What, what's going on here?

Why are you raising your voice?

And I was just like.

I was innocent and perplexed.

I wasn't angry at her.

I wasn't frustrated.

I was just like, Hey, I, I'm confused.

What's going on here?

Why are you raising your voice?

And she says, I'm raising my voice
because I'm speaking my truth.

And, and then suddenly she stopped.

She went and then she got it.

She just totally got it.

Wait a minute, I'm in a charge,

Audree: right?

So then I closed my eyes and I went
inside my body to feel the charge.

And I just, and what happened?

This is the interesting part.

What happened when I
closed my eyes is the ego.

I went to feel the charge.

I could feel it in my body.

I could feel some uncomfortable sensation
in my body, some, a pain in my chest.

And then the ego started to talk,
saying, Michael is trying to control me.

He's trying to tell me what,
what I should do with my life

and it's my life, you know?

And I need to be careful of Michael.

'cause he's manipulative for his own,
for his own, you know, his, his own

needs, you know, and his needs are, he's
blocking me from doing what I wanna do.

He is blocking me from, from having,
um, social time, like it just star.

It went on and I, and I,
I started to believe it.

Like, I'm like aware of this, you
know, the aspect of my being, the

ego of consciousness, talking,
blaming everything on Michael.

And I could feel the pain
getting more and more intense.

And then I went, the part of
me that's aware of everything

going on went, wait a minute.

I go, Michael's not doing anything.

And all of a sudden the, the
talk, that negative talk stopped.

The dialogue stopped.

I could still feel the, the pain.

And I, like, I was, I, I actually got to
turn my awareness inward and I said, and I

was, I said, no, Michael's not doing this.

You are doing it.

You are the one that's separating
yourself from other people.

You are the one that
actually is creating this.

And if you are creating separation.

You are the one that doesn't
wanna be in social situations.

You don't wanna be in, in a family unit.

You do not, you pull away and your,
you do not wanna be close to people.

And when I that happened, I can just, I,
the all dialogue stopped and I just felt

into the sensation that was in my body.

And at some point I had this insight
of, oh, this is my deepest wound

'cause I was adopted.

And so my deepest wound is also my
deepest longing of wanting to be part of

a family to have those deep connections.

To feel unified and then at some point, so
I'm just, I was just feeling and feeling

and feeling into the pain and just with
the, the insight was kind of more like a,

just a flash of an insight and a knowing.

And so I just stayed there and I noticed
that, you know, my body got hot and

then it wanted to, my body wanted to
move, so then I took off my slippers

and then, and then I was sitting there
and then my body wanted to move again.

There was like these things in my
physical body where I could feel

that the ego of consciousness was
trying to distract me and take me

away from, from what was happening.

And I moved my body so I was
more comfortable, but I stayed

with the sensation in my body.

I went back to it and.

I just stayed with the pain and I,
what we call is a get clear, um,

not the story around what's happening,
but the physical sensation in the body.

And I stayed there.

And then I had another insight.

And the other insight is,

well, we're not actually
separate from each other.

Like I'm source consciousness.

Your source consciousness.

The child is source, the people, the
parents are source consciousness.

Like we're all, we're not
actually separate from each other.

It just, we're in this illusion
of this physical incarnation.

That makes us feel separate, but we're
not actually separate from each other.

And I was so, I was like,

why do I, why do I feel this way?

Why do I feel the pain of, and the
longing of connection and then push

the longing of connection away,
like, where is that coming from?

And it just, the, the pain and
the wound and the hurt went just

deeper and deeper and deeper.

And I just stayed with the
physical sensation, no story.

And then I had a vision,
a flash of vision.

Oh, before that flash of vision, I was
having flashes of vision of lifetimes.

That I've had where I was separated
from my parents and I was separated

from my family, and it kept going back
and back and back to a longing, to,

of connection to kind of like, so for
people that are listening, um, I, I have

knowledge of a lot of my past lives.

Um, so I went all the way back to the
first memory I have of being physically

incarnated and leaving kind of not just
my family, but my planet and my people.

And I went back to that and
then feeling the, the wound and

the pain of separation there.

And then I had this, then I had this flash
of vision that I've had one other time

of all of.

The time when source separated
from itself originally.

And it's a really strange and yet
beautiful vision of all aspects of source

separating and moving into the soul
inception crystal, which is the, the first

kind of energetic structure and mechanism
of exactly how source created separation

to materialize in the physical realm.

Michael: And separation is not a
negative term, it's a neutral term.

Audree: No,

Michael: it's just a mechanic of creation.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: This is different from the
deviated separation where there's

separation and distortion in the
deviation, and there's a, in that

separation, there's a loss of connection.

Like it's a Yeah, it's
a, it's a, like it's a.

I'm not just separate, but I'm gonna
pretend I even know that anything else

exists other than me, and I'm heard
and feel really, really separate.

I'm, that's the Devi

Audree: separate in a, in a distorted
code of pain and suffering separate.

Michael: Yes.

Audree: This is not that kind of separate.

Michael: Yeah.

It's just, is just a,

Audree: this vision, I have to tell
you, I think the first time I actually

had this vision was a few weeks ago.

Actually.

Time is weird right now, but excuse me.

It's a vision where I see

each individuated aspect of source
consciousness in the so inception

crystal and, and we're coming
down into the universal cluster.

I am not gonna explain
what all this means.

I'm just talking to
Michael right now actually.

Can you feel it?

It's so peaceful and exciting and I,
I can see I'm not in physical body.

I'm in energetic form in
my soul inception crystal.

And I can look out and I can see everyone
else in their soul inception crystal.

And we're all like, it's just this
beautiful, peaceful, like, we're,

we're on this mission to do this
thing, and it's really, really cool.

I don't have words to express.

Michael: So we're, we're talking
about cosmic creation here.

Audree: Yeah.

We're talking about cosmic creation.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: So before, before even
this universe was created,

so it's like this, it's like.

I remember when I first had this
flash of vision, it was like, whoa.

And that's where I went back to.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: So today this process
went all the way back to that

moment and not as painful.

It's just that moment there was so much
love, and then I could see, I could feel

the connection that I have to
this child that we're speaking of.

And there's some sort of connection there
in that moment that like I could feel him.

So the pain in my being is gone, like
the longing for connection is gone.

The insight that I had about

this conflict in my, in my being of

the longing to be connected
is so intense that the ego of

consciousness is pushing it away.

That is gone.

There's some residual, uh, it feels more
like a unwinding happening within that

wounding that is still there, but it.

It's just working itself out.

Like there's nothing that I need to do.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: So this is the power of our work,
because what happens is that the ego of

consciousness is in so hurt and wounded.

In psychology, we call this the
subconscious patterns and beliefs.

In our work, what we're
doing is we're we're

able to identify that there's an emotional
charge or a trigger, and then we also

have the knowing and the understanding
that it's not the person out.

That it's not the person
or the situation before us.

In front of us that we're
experiencing in the moment.

That is the actual cause.

Michael: Right.

So it's realizing the the actual problem
is inside of our being not outside.

Audree: Exactly.

And when you can do that,

Michael: I'm the problem.

I'm the solution.

Audree: Exactly.

You become very aware of
the nature of the ego.

A consciousness that is this powerful
force, a hidden, powerful, subconscious

force that is creating all of reality.

Mm-hmm.

And when you can lock in to actually
being aware of what it's doing,

the mechanism is that it stops.

And with that understanding, when you
have the knowledge and you have the

tools and techniques, you can actually
go into it and work with it from there.

Michael: You know what I got?

What?

This is so good.

I, I, I know you'll think it's so obvious,
but I'm kind of a slow learner here.

Um, the reason the subconscious is
powerful and even all powerful compared

to the conscious mind is very simple.

Why is it running the show?

And you as a conscious person,
are not running the show?

It's running the show because you
don't even know it's running the show.

Audree: That's how it has power.

Michael: That's how it has power.

And it's only when you notice that it's
there and see what it's doing, that

you reclaim the power that you have.

See, so that's why, you know, really
the, the default functioning of a

human being is this, you know, I
think, you know, Eastern mythology

is called a state of ignorance.

'cause we're ignorant to the
functioning of our own being.

That we have grown up in a,
into a state of being where our

subconscious is running the show.

Secretly, covertly behind the scenes.

And we're going along with it.

It says, Hey, this person
did to this thing to you.

You should get mad at them.

And you get mad at them.

And then afterwards you go, wow,
that wasn't such a good idea.

That was not productive.

Why did I do that?

It's 'cause you're not running the show

Audree: or you,

Michael: you're not, I mean,

Audree: you're this kind of tough,
or, or you're so addicted to being

angry and frustrated at outside
situations and blaming everybody else.

Or you know,

Michael: well there is an addiction,
there's a chemical addiction to those

neurotransmitters firing your body.

Mm-hmm.

And if you haven't gotten angry for
a certain number of minutes or hours,

you're gonna have to get angry about
something because your body wants to

have that fix of those neurochemicals.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: I mean, the whole thing's
really just quite marvelous

when you look at it that way.

Or deeply upsetting if you
know you're not in control yet.

Audree: Well, what do,
what do they say first?

It's disturbing.

Michael: And then, then
you'll rule over the world.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Yeah.

Well, so I mean, so this ties
back to like my most profound

like realization for the last,

Audree: can we just stop for a moment?

'cause I just need to,

Michael: yeah.

Audree: So I wanna, I
wanna go back for a moment.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: So the ability to
have this kind of awareness,

I mean, we were initiated in India.

To be able to not only have this
awareness, this ability to go

very deep for our own being.

Mm-hmm.

We also have the ability to transmit
the energies that are powerful

enough so other people can also
have this type of awareness.

It's a very, very,

Michael: at this level of depth,

Audree: it's a very, we, we hold a
transmission to be able to, um, give

others these types of deep awareness
and insights within their own being.

That's where it gets weird, because
it's a very, very specific initiation

that we were actually given.

On purpose

Michael: mm-hmm.

Audree: To be able to do this for actually
millions, hundreds of millions of people.

Michael: Yes.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Okay.

So, so that's true.

I'm just saying, why are you,
why are you mentioning this now?

Help me with the context.

Audree: The context is,

Michael: I mean, it's true.

I'm not gonna, I, I
not, I no dispute there.

I know

Audree: there's, I,

Michael: but what's,

Audree: I don't, I don't know why.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: But there's something very,
very important and powerful here.

'cause the transmission is coming through.

Michael: Yeah.

Okay.

So, well, I, I, I can explain what,
what I think is actually happening.

Audree: So Hold.

You need to go slower, quiet Coyote.

So the technology to shift consciousness
is very precise and specific.

And the reason why I'm sharing this
all now is because awareness is the

primary mechanism to shift consciousness,

yet there's surface awareness and
there's the ability to go deeper.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And what I'm connecting
the dots is that two days,

two days ago, we took our students
through a very, very deep process to,

um.

Remove

the

Michael: self-deception.

Was it

Audree: It was, it was a
whole thing more than that.

I don't wanna name it.

I just wanna say that we took them
through a very, very powerful process to

remove the binds of the ego connected to
very, very deep mechanics of creation.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

So what I'm to

Audree: deepen the awareness.

Michael: Yeah.

So what, what I'm getting is
like everybody has awareness.

I mean, this is the fundamental construct
of what it means to be a, a human being

is to have the consciousness or awareness.

I think what Audrey's speaking to now,
and this is what I'm getting about the

why you shared this, is because there's
an energetic activation that's needed.

To refine the awareness.

There's specific technical knowledge
of how to harness awareness, which

is what we do in our courses that's
needed to sharpen the awareness.

So it has the ability to cut through the
structures of the ego of consciousness.

And also what's needed is there's certain
energetic procedures that are needed

to unbind certain locking mechanism.

The egoic consciousness has, in
order for that awareness to be

freed and able to be applied over a
greater surface of our, of, of what's

happening within our own consciousness,

Audree: right?

Like so, because

Michael: really

Audree: you have to make the choice,
you have to see what the, the,

the ego, the ego is doing, and you
have to make a choice to stop it.

And there's a very specific
unlock to make that happen.

Michael: What, what?

I mean, this is what
I'm getting right now.

Um, is that it's not
enough to make the choice.

Mm-hmm.

And it's not enough just to have just the
knowledge that that alone is not enough.

There are other structural
elements, energetic elements

that are needed to activate that.

So one can actually complete this.

'cause the, 'cause, you know, the ego is
a, a very difficult, very, very tricky,

very, very sophisticated mechanism.

It's actually working
perfectly as designed to keep

us, you know, in this loop.

Um, but however, it's so sophisticated and
as, as a human being, as a consciousness,

it's not like this is our first rodeo.

We've been deeply enmeshed in this
context for lifetime after lifetime.

I, you know, when you've been
through a hundred lifetimes of

repeating the same patterns, they're
deeply etched into your being.

And not only that, we're born into a,
a slave society where we're given the,

the, the beliefs of enslavement, not of,
of freedom and actually get out of it.

So when all that stacked up against you,
there's a lot of power that has to come to

bear, even when one has made the choice.

I mean, you can see this, there,
there there are millions, tens

of millions, hundreds of million
people who've made the choice to

turn the light all over the planet.

And yet where's the progress?

It's not there because they're lacking
the actual tools and mechanics needed.

And so I think if I come back to
what you're saying is I don't think

you or I have a full appreciation
of the depth to which those specific

mechanisms have support supported.

And

we

Audree: were given the greatest gift,

Michael: we're given a, a specific
curated program by our guides to, Hey,

this is how you get out of this mess.

Audree: But I'm just saying even more.

I'm saying that when we were
in India, we were given a gift.

Michael: From

Audree: beyond.

Michael: From

Audree: Bagan?

Yes.

Beyond.

Beyond.

Beyond.

Beyond.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And even though we're not
part of that community anymore,

that or lineage or tradition or
whatever, the lineage or tradition.

Um, and I know why.

I definitely know why.

Michael: Well, we all had to
do this work, so it's fine.

Audree: No, no, no, no, no.

It, it was

Michael: just, I know the other reasons.

Yeah.

Audree: It was like that, that calling to
be there and to get the transmission, to

get the initiations were, because it was
almost like he, you know, he knew, oh,

Michael: you wanted to
belong to there too.

Right.

Audree: I, you know, I
wanted to belong everywhere.

Um, but it's like, um, that
lineage, he knew that that lineage

was going to get compromised.

He knew that he needed to help.

His whole entire desire
was to awaken humanity.

And so that, that he knew that that
wasn't gonna be accomplished by him alone.

And so he called upon people to
come get the initiation and he was

actually training people to, to
work outside of the organization.

Like, go off and be on your

Michael: own.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Audree: That was his whole, I remember

Michael: those days.

Audree: Yeah.

That was his whole desire and mission and
vision was like, I'll just give you this

ability and then you will go off and have
your own teaching with the ability to,

to give people that, that deep awakening,
the ability to have that awakening.

You know, basically I'll give
you what I have and you will

go off and do your own thing.

And then it was blocked by
the whole entire organization.

Mm-hmm.

They're like, no, we don't wanna do that.

We gotta keep the people here, you know?

How else are we gonna survive?

Michael: How else gonna
pay the lighting bills?

Audree: Exactly.

Um, oh, I'll tell a fun story.

Can I tell a fun story?

Michael: Y you, I, I, I think
that's a violation of the rules

of this, uh, this podcast.

What do you, of course
you can, like what you

Audree: talking about.

It was weird.

It's, it was a very strange experience.

So, so I was going to India a lot.

I was going to India, spending time
there, doing these initiations, doing

my own, my own, you know, basically
it was through your own process that

Michael: when you say
a lot, you mean months?

Audree: Months, yeah.

And then I would come home,

and this is right before I met you.

Um, and this isn't the first
time this has happened.

Like, so like I would be with people and
all of a sudden their mind would go blank.

That's the, that's part of the,
there's a, the neuro um, the

neurotransmitters shifting in the brain.

One of the, one of the things
is that the mind just shuts off.

Michael: Well, actually, you
know what I learned this morning

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: While I was doing my research
on physiology and elite athletes?

Audree: Oh yeah.

Michael: Is actually what happens is
during exercise, the frontal cortex

shuts down the prefrontal cortex.

Mm-hmm.

And that's the part that does all the
thinking, all the, you know, if you

think about the monkey mind mm-hmm.

It's there, there's another part.

Funny enough.

Mm-hmm.

I'll just share this little tangent.

That is the me center.

Oh, it's the identity center and
then there are actual specific

physiological markers to show
when that thing's shutting down.

And so there's where I started
to build a, a much broader

understanding of the whole me and me.

And they're also, when you're
exercising their chemicals

released to rewire the brain.

So I actually put together the, the
whole you, the thing you told me,

which is, oh, well exercise is a
technology for conscious, but actually

put that sort of putting it together
as a paper that we can publish mm-hmm.

Around what does that look like
and, and how does that tie in

with the research and so on.

Audree: Right.

Because I, I, you know, when I
was training for marathon or just

running in general, what I loved
about running is that I would get in

these altered states of consciousness
and then chi would just come

Michael: in.

Right?

So that's where I learned it from.

You and I just thought this,
everybody knows this, but it

turns out nobody else knows this.

It's only, you know it
and I learned it from you.

And maybe whoever, I mean, think about
it and maybe whoever else you told,

but it's actually a well-kept secret.

But, so what I discovered is that,
um, and this is talking to that

contact I was talking to when
I had that, that chat mm-hmm.

The catch up was that, oh, nobody knows
that exercise is the body's builtin

consciousness evolution program.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Because it, it does all the,
all the, the things that are needed

to support, uh, that activation.

And so what hap so what
I'm realizing right now, I

Audree: mean the E two grounding
meditation, I downloaded that information

for that meditation in, in 2003.

No.

Or 2 0 2 0 0 4.

Right in the beginning of 2 0 4.

Um, while I was running on the treadmill.

Like I got a lot like, or I'd be
running outside, I'd be doing a

five or six mile run in the morning.

And, uh, and I would get the best
guidance, the best downloads, and

my mind would clear and mm-hmm.

And I would go home and smoke a cigarette

because I, I released all
the nicotine outta my system.

Michael: I to put some more bag in.

Audree: I got, it's crazy when I
think about that, it was so funny.

Anyways, go ahead.

I, I didn't,

Michael: I thought you
were gonna share a story.

Audree: Oh, okay.

Um, I have a few, I have a
few stories like this, but

one in particular was great.

So I'm at, um, I'm, I'm in.

I am long term in New York City.

I'm living in, we're living in an
Airbnb, uh, a friend of mine and I,

and, uh, and we're doing some work.

We're setting up an event.

So we're, we're there, I don't know.

She rented this Airbnb
for like six months.

So I came to, to help her out with this
work and not this work, but other work,

um, to set up this event, whatever.

And she has tons of family in New York
City and they're East Coast people.

And, and so, um, uh, her
ex-husband is there with his,

his partner or his new wife.

And we all decide as a, as a
group to go out for a Saturday

night to this really amazing.

Uh, we go to this comedy club in New York
City and there's this amazing band there.

I forget the name of this band,
but they're like a parody band.

It was so funny.

It was like the, one of the best nights.

So we're there, we're having fun,
we're having a few drinks, and

we're listening to this band.

And my other, uh, another one of
our, our, our friends, she comes in

for the weekend and she's a smoker.

I, I'm not a smoker anymore, but she
keeps going outside to have a cigarette.

And she was outside for a very, very long
time, and I was kind of worried about her.

So I, I went outside to go,
you know, see if she was okay,

and she's like, yeah, I'm okay.

It's just, you know, loud
and I'm not really into this.

And she's kind of, you know, whatever.

Um, so I'm just hanging
out with her and this.

Young guy comes, starts, is walking
down the street, and you could

see he's like completely wasted.

And he walks by us and he drops,
like he has a pack of cigarettes in

his hand, in a lighter or whatever.

He drops everything out of his hands.

And so we're just sitting and
we're just standing there.

I'm just standing there watching this
whole thing in front of me, and he bends

down to pick up the stuff that he dropped.

And when he comes up,
he picks up the stuff.

He comes up and I look straight.

He looks straight into my eyes like this.

And then he stands all the way up.

And he, and he kind of just
is like, sh kind of shocked.

And I didn't have any thoughts.

I was just watching this drunk
guy, you know, fumbling around.

And when he, when he stood up, he
looked directly in my eyes, like

our eyes locked for like a second.

And then he stood up and he is
like, he shakes his head, he

goes, what did you just do to me?

And I'm like, what?

Like, I'm just watching you.

And he goes, what did you do to me?

What, what did you do to me?

And I was like, what
are you talking about?

And he goes, my mind just shut off.

What did you do to me?

I just smiled.

I was just like, oh, that, and of
course, my friend there sitting over,

you know, smoking a cigarette and she's
like, oh, that's just what she does.

Michael: Yeah.

She'd say that.

I know who that is.

Audree: Yeah.

And she's like, it just happens.

And he is like, no, what did you do to me?

That is it.

He and, and he goes, it was
like a lightning bolt in my

brain and my mind shut off.

And nobody's been able
to do that to me ever.

Michael: And he wasn't drunk anymore.

Audree: And he was not drunk anymore.

Instantaneously he was totally
sober, instantaneously.

And I'm just like, oh,
I'm just set up that way.

And he is like, what do you mean?

I go, oh, I was initiated by monks.

It's okay.

Michael: In

Audree: India.

And, and then, and then my friend said,
come on Audrey, we gotta go back inside.

'cause she realized it was
getting weird, you know?

And I was like, I gotta go.

This guy followed me into the
nightclub, like literally followed me.

And he is like, who are you?

Who are you?

And I was like, I, I'm Audrey.

Like, I'm nobody.

You know,

we're with a group of people, you
know, and he comes and he sits down

and he is just like, I'm, I'm sorry,
but I, I need to know who you are.

And the people at the table
are, my friends are like.

Who, what, who is this guy?

Like, do you know this guy?

And I was like, no.

And, and you know, my other friend
who is outside smoking a cigarette,

she's just like, oh God, you know,
here go here we go, here we go.

And, and this guy's
like, we need to go talk.

We need to go talk.

And I'm just like, I, I'm here
with my, my friends, you know?

And he is just like,
okay, I'm gonna sit here.

And he is like, can I buy you a drink?

And I was like, okay, buy me
a drink, you know, whatever.

Um, and, and my, the, the people at the
table are kind of uncomfortable, you know?

And, and I'm just like, it's, it's okay.

You know?

It, it's totally okay.

And, you know, but they're like,
there's this weird guy, he's a stranger.

We don't know him.

You know?

And at the same time, like, you know,
I could feel like it's just like.

He is like, can we go talk?

And I'm like, okay.

So we go back outside and he has
a cigarette and I'm just standing

there with him and he, and he's
just like, we have to be together.

Like, and, and like, he actually
thought he was in love with me,

like, because, you know, and so we
just, we sat and we talked and, you

know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And you know, he was really, really cute.

I mean, he was super attractive guy.

And, uh, he is a up and coming comedian,
like he is just tells me about his

life, you know, da da da da, da.

And, um.

You know, and, and then I was just like,
oh, there's like this attraction there.

What I, I always forget, 'cause you get
wrapped up in the attraction, is that the

energy is a high vibrational frequency.

It feels orgasmic, it feels like
it's this, the, the attraction feels,

especially between a man and a woman,
but sometimes man and man and woman.

A woman, it kind of feels sexual.

So you get confused because you
don't understand the, the concept.

The concept is, is that the
attraction is there so you

guys can learn from each other.

There's some evolutionary
purpose to the attraction.

It's not really sexual.

It's not like you, you're
supposed to be together.

I mean, maybe there's a possibility
that oh yeah, you can, you know,

you're supposed to be together.

But it's for evolutionary reasons.

Mm-hmm.

It's to evolve.

It is not because you're
really supposed to be together.

And so anyway, so, but he was
thinking that that's what it was.

I also have another
experience with my mover.

It was the same.

Michael: Same thing.

Yeah,

Audree: same thing.

This guy came over to quote my move,
this was my move from Chicago to

California, and he came to quote my
move and he, and we're going around my

house and he has the same thing happens.

There was this moment where his mind
just completely shut off and, but

he didn't say anything to me at the
time and he's just like, oh, he was

Michael: being very professional.

Audree: He was being very professional.

But he thought the same thing.

And, and so he, so we became friends.

So he told me this story afterwards, but
what happened was when he left my house

and, and he was in his truck and he was
driving home and on his way home he had

this huge awakening started his, he said,
how he described it is while he was at

my house with me, his mind completely
went blank and he completely shut off.

But he held it together long enough that
when he got back in his car to drive home,

that his heart burst open and that he was
in this altered state of consciousness

where he had this e extreme awakening and
like a one this experience of oneness.

And then he was just bawling, crying.

And then afterwards he called me and he
is like, Hey, can we go out for dinner?

And he thought the same
thing until we kissed.

And then when we like, you know, we
went out for dinner and there was this

mutual attraction, and then, and then
we, we kissed at the end of the night.

And in that kiss, in that
moment, he's like, oh, we're

not supposed to be together.

There's just something here
that I need to learn from you.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And it was just like, oh yeah.

Like we, we knew that, that moment.

And then we became, and
then we were just friends.

Yeah.

And then, you know, we hung out together
and he learned about energy and about

the, this, you know, evolutionary
journey and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But it wasn't, you know, it wasn't,

Michael: you know what this
whole story reminds me of?

Audree: Mm.

Michael: Remember what we used
to do, how we initiated for this.

We used to do this, I
think we did this for one.

Uh, academy episode when we
had the resident in-person

trainings, we did the iha.

Oh,

Audree: we used to do iha.

Michael: Yeah.

Which was so powerful and effective.

And then we stopped it 'cause
it was too weird for people.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Which is, you know,
kind of the, you know, the lock

of the ego of consciousness.

Um, we, maybe that's,

Audree: we did have, we had one
student that got very confused.

Do you remember that?

He locked eyes with you?

He got iha from you.

Oh.

And his whole being shut off
and he, and he went into this

huge awakening experience

Michael: and then he got, right.

Then he thought he was in
love with me or something.

Audree: Yeah.

He thought he was in love with you.

And he got,

it's

Michael: the same, same

Audree: pattern.

Very confused pattern.

Michael: He got very confused about that.

Audree: It is not sexual attraction.

That's what gets confusing because
society has said, oh, this feeling

Michael: is sexual

Audree: is sexual, and it's not,
it's energetic and it's a connection

because you, the two of you need
to learn something from each other.

Mm-hmm.

That's what that, there's
an awakening happening.

There's an evolutionary process
that is beginning to unfold

or awaken within a being.

So it,

Michael: and it could be both.

Audree: It feels very sexual.

It could be, chances are it's not though.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Because I could see things,
I can envision that sexual act

between the two of you and it.

Michael: No, no, no.

I was talking about, I was talking about

Audree: it feels awful.

Michael: I was, I wasn't
talking about that situation.

I was talking about our
situation where it's both.

Audree: It is.

Michael: I give up, see what
I'm dealing with people.

So the thing is, at moments like
this, actually it doesn't even

disturb me when she says that it used
to disturb me when she says that.

Audree: Really?

Michael: But that's, that's
like the evolutionary process.

Audree: That means that you love me.

See now you don't

Michael: see what I deal with
people anyway, so, so what we're

saying here is that even when you
get to advanced of consciousness,

it doesn't mean you're perfect.

You're still fucked up.

So, so yeah, true, true, fun fact.

Uh, but what happens is the, we're in a
much more coherent state most of the time.

So yeah, it's not about being perfect.

We're still purifying.

Okay.

So can we close now?

'cause we're.

We're at time.

Over time.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Anything you
wanna say before we close?

Audree: I was trying to summarize
exactly what this podcast was about, and

Michael: it's okay.

We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll
drop the transcript into the AI and

it'll, it'll help us figure it out.

Audree: I think.

I think, you know, I think what
it is, is there's this connection

and confusion about that.

It's about the external situation
or it's about the person.

And when you go inside, there's
something completely different going on.

And what the whole entire life
experience is about is about this

purification that's happening internally.

Michael: Yeah.

And I even just go back to Audrey's whole
story of, of having this connection with

this child and, and the reaction mm-hmm.

And projection onto me and so
on, is that this is the nature

of how the ego manipulates you.

There's a truth.

A lie, a truth and a lie.

So there, while there's this connection
that Audrey has with this child,

true, it wraps it up in a whole bunch
of lies, which gives the, creates

the, the, the, the control mechanism
and the looping and, and so on.

So that's kind of how I'll,
I'll bring it full circle.

Audree: Oh, I have one other thing
to bring it full circle, but I don't

know if I can do it fast enough.

Michael: Well, we're, we're
well past time now, so

Audree: that's okay.

Michael: Everybody knows how that, the
really good stuff's at the end, so, yeah.

Audree: Maybe they're just longer on
the treadmill while they're listening

to this podcast, which is good for you.

Yeah.

So no worries.

Right?

Or you're on your walk, right, and
you're listen to this podcast, and

now all of a sudden you've walked
four miles instead of three miles,

Michael: and if your mind says you
can't do it or there's a problem,

you can actually just see how the
mind's turn to take you out from

completing listening to this.

Audree: Well, I,

Michael: anyway, so,

Audree: so that's about elite
training is that you start to hurt

and your mind starts to get in
the way, saying blah, blah, blah.

Michael: That's a whole other podcast.

Just settle down lady.

Audree: I'm just, I'm just saying.

Okay.

I just wanna share this one thing with you

Michael: and then we'll go to the

Audree: Yes.

Here is my, my horoscope for the day.

You may be visited by very
old memories today, Leo.

Michael: True.

This

Audree: may feel inexplicable and
mysterious, and you'll probably

wonder why you are thinking about
these things you have not thought

about for a very long time.

Michael: True.

Audree: You are longing for something

Michael: true.

Audree: Some, can you stop?

Michael: Okay.

Audree: Something that makes you
feel warm, happy, and settled.

True.

You can and should pursue this
feeling in your present life.

Don't just reminisce, do something
substantial to bring about the feelings.

Those memories invoke start today.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: So it's not actually about
the memory it about, it's about

Michael: transcending
it and moving forward.

Audree: Yeah.

It's like what is it
invoking inside of you?

What is the longing has to do with
a wound, a hurt, you know, the egoic

consciousness that is actually hurt.

And the whole entire journey of evolution
is about transmuting healing and

transforming the egoic consciousness
back to its original intention, which is.

Creator consciousness.

It is the very thing
that's creating a reality.

And when it's functioning in a
healthy state, it's creating a

very, very powerful, beautiful,
extraordinary reality for you.

The life experience changes.

Michael: Alright, so we'll close
now with the three minutes of

the E two mantra transmission.

And again, this is the most
valuable part of the whole thing.

'cause we're you're accessing
the frequencies, so just tune in.

Audree: Well, the whole entire
thing is accessing the frequencies.

Michael: This is intensified
energetics in intentionally.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's be evolutionary.