B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So one of the things
I've been struggling with is,

is what is what is my role?

And I just had, uh, this, this revelation
and insight I was going through one

of the transcripts of we have with
our, uh, of the channeling sessions we

have with the she who are our guides.

And, uh, you know, it's really
quite something to grasp the

truth of, of what creation is.

And one of the things that they've,
they've said since the beginning is that,

you know, they're, they're light beings.

You know, they're, you know,
but they're not above us.

That they're actually here to, to
support us and, and, and, and help us.

And for me, for my part, you know,
I've always, you know, my, the e

egoic aspect of me, the conditioned
aspect to me has been always been

enamored with, you know, be having
significance, being a teacher and so on.

And I was going through the transcript
again, and, and, and there was

this realization my being is that
we can't give anything to anybody

and what, what that means
for me or the experience.

I mean, it's not like a thought or
a concept that I'm, you know, trying

to learn or something like that.

It's just like this deep realization
within my own being is that.

You, everyone listening to this,
everyone already is that everyone

already is source consciousness.

Everybody who's coming into this work
that's pulled or drawn here, that's

choosing to, to wake up to their
truth, to use the tools to uncover

their truth, that you know what?

Like I can't give them anything.

All I can do is, is, is guide them
on their own journey, on their own

process and give them the tools that
I used that Audrey and I used that we

created and, and that's all I can do.

I can't actually give them anything
because they already are that they

already are source consciousness
incarnated in human form and.

All I'm doing at some level is as source,
helping my own being, which is, you

know, whoever's coming to this work as
source help them create what they want.

And for those who are coming here, it's,
it's supporting them in creating and,

and fulfilling this desire that they
hold to come into the truth of what and

who they are, so they can consciously
create their reality so they can live

as they're intended on, on this planet.

It, and, and for me, this is like
really, really like, and I, and I

can't, I mean, I'm trying to put words
into it to describe this, but this

profound understanding of, of moving
from this place of, oh, I'm the teacher.

I'm giving them this stuff.

We've developed this over a decade
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

To this realization of

I can't give anyone anything.

I mean.

I mean, the whole thing's actually, it
seems like, feels like kind of a joke.

I dunno if you wanna say anything
or whether anything's been

going on for you around this or

Audree: I Um hmm.

Michael: Or your role in all of this.

Well, Audrey's thinking, uh, you
know, it, it feels like a little bit

of the movie, the Matrix, you know?

Where, uh, Neo's on board the Berkin
and, uh, cipher says to him, you

know, this is kind of a mind trip.

You know, Morphy Iss
telling you you're the one.

Like, what do you do with that?

Well, you know, I mean, I, I guess
that's the challenge I'm going through

and, you know, the joke of it all is.

Uh, you're not the one, you
know, every, everyone's the one.

You're the one.

I'm the one.

It's not, you know, and you
know, the guides have been

saying this since the start.

It's like, you're not, we're not special.

We're just fulfilling the
role we're here to fulfill.

You're here to fulfill the
role you are here to fulfill,

Audree: right?

Like all those, you know, referencing the
matrix, all those people in the matrix,

Neo's, just showing them their potential.

You know I am.

I think about like we just had a
conversation with a student of ours.

And it's so obvious.

It's just you gotta keep just
making the choice to evolve.

You just have to keep looking,
why am I creating this?

Why am I creating this?

And it's hard, like we
do it every single day.

I mean like, I'm in that now.

Why am I creating this?

Why am I creating this?

'cause I want, you know,
our finances to change and.

There's a part of me that's just like
kind of just given up to just say,

well, I've done all the work and I am

still doing the work, and I've reached
these other states of consciousness

so I know what's on the other side.

It's such a weird, the weird
I I, I am the same place.

It's a weird experience

and.

There's nothing, it,
it's like a realization.

There's nothing you can do for anybody.

Only give them the tools and techniques.

Give them the knowledge of
like what's actually happening.

Sometimes I'm jealous of our
students, I don't know if jealous

is the right word, maybe envious.

It's like it's easier for them,

like they have way more
success than we do.

And I, and, and then at the same time
I get to witness their process and

I'm like so inspired by them, like
they inspire me because I'm just

watching somebody make a choice.

And then they make the choice and
they use the work and then they, you

know, they blow through whatever,
whatever issue is coming up for them.

I was just reading the red book.

It's fascinating.

I just turned to an image and
then read the instruction.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Not the instruction,
the inscription.

Michael: You wanna share what it was

before you took away

Audree: from Um, yeah.

Well, uh, the Red Book is
this book by Carl Young.

It's his, um.

It's his, I guess it's his personal
diary of his evolutionary journey.

And he had all these dreams, I
don't know if they were waking

dreams or sleeping dreams.

It's a gorgeous, gorgeous book.

It has all these beautiful
images, his drawings and stuff,

and then it's, uh, translated.

So I opened to this one image.

And then the translation for
the image was that he was,

had reached a state of peace in
his system where there was total

stillness, but then there was
stillness, like life was not moving.

And then he was speaking to the aspect of
his being that was cre had been creating

all the pain and suffering and all the,

all the conflict.

And you know, that, that is
what I realized, like when,

when, um, my son was paralyzed.

And it had been two months
and nothing was happening.

Nothing that we did happen.

And then I like just reached into my being
and started talking and I accessed like

the ego of consciousness, which is creator
consciousness, and started talking to it.

So that's what Carl
Young was doing in this.

And they're like, well, you know,
that's what happens, you know?

And he's like, well, did
I do something wrong?

'cause now if everything feels
still and peaceful, but there's,

there's no force of life.

Like what I, you know, I'm so accustomed.

To manifesting or creating my life
through conflict, through that force

of desire, throw, getting something,
throwing it away, rebuilding it,

you know, the passion of, you know,
moving through my pain and suffering.

He's like, this is kind of boring now.

And so he's just having this conversation.

He calls it the serpent, which is really
interesting because we have all those

stories of the Garden of the Eden.

You know, and how, how, you know,
um, Adam and Eve, well, Eve the

serpent came and told her to eat the
apple from the Tree of Knowledge.

And when she ate from the apple of
Tree of Knowledge, she, all of a sudden

her mind turned, turned on and she
had fear and she covered her body.

And all these things.

And then she's like, oh,
Adam, here, eat the apple.

You know?

So there's this story that we
all have that's a template for

our own belief system and how we
function through, you know, this,

this knowledge and, and the mind.

And I don't even know if I'm
making sense right now, but.

The mind.

We use the mind to create life.

We use the mind to create our
reality, and there's a mechanism there

that it is creator consciousness.

It's part of the system.

Michael: Oh, you know, Scott,

Audree: what,

Michael: you know, even that story, you
know, is a, is a, is a, is a untruth.

Because, you know, and I'm just
going back to the matrix, it's

like we were born into slavery.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Right?

And that, you know, there,
there's no, it's not like

anyone's done anything wrong.

It's not like anyone on earth
has done anything wrong.

It's just we've been born into this
situation of being the deviation

Audree: and we keep
believing it over and over.

So we feel unworthy and we punish
ourselves and we don't feel we deserve.

You know, abundance or healthy body or

a good relationship.

And so then we try, 'cause
that's what we desire.

Like there's something in us that

there's something inside of us that knows

life can be different.

There's an inherit
something there and that.

Kind of pulls us along in
life, gives us hope and Right.

Michael: Right.

And then, and then, and then the
challenge is we don't know how to

function in, in, in a way to actually
create that successfully we created

within these distorted patterns.

And then, well, because loop and
loop and loop and, you know, achieve

and struggle and fail deep down.

Audree: Yeah.

The

Michael: right, so there's,
what are, they call it the,

our guys call it the gas break.

Mm-hmm.

There's the gas for change in evolution.

And then, you know,
we've got the brake, then

Audree: lose the break.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And how do you
blow through the break?

Well, that's like in, in the, in
the last matrix, Neo's like he's

in when he is in the dojo and he
doesn't think he can do anything.

Michael: You're talking
about the The fourth one.

Audree: The fourth one, yeah.

Yeah.

And Morpheus is like,
you have to want this.

You

Michael: have to fight

Audree: for it.

You have to fight for it.

And that's interesting too, 'cause
isn't fight fighting in the deviation?

Michael: Well, so

Audree: it's so confusing.

Michael: Well, so I think, you know, this
is the point that I've got to, um, and

this was like a profound shift from a
couple days ago, is I was always trying to

figure everything out and put everything
in a box and put all the boxes together.

And what I got to the point of is

Audree: you do have the gate
of planning, just to be fair.

Michael: Y Yeah.

So it's it's not, it's not just that.

Audree: And you are an engineer trained.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

And the mind tries to understand
things, so it feels safe.

The ego, ego conscious
wants to understand things.

And so, you know, the journey of moving
beyond the mind, and this is kind of

like the, you know, the kind of the,
you know, as we move to the kind of

the more advanced stages, once we've
got all the energetics in place and.

You know, we we're, we're, we've got
mastery over the tools of evolution

then at that point, and I guess
that's what mastery is, right?

And oh my gosh.

Wow.

Okay.

Revelation coming in.

So, so when we go to self mastery,
we let go of all the need to follow

rules or structures of practice
because we have that mastery.

And that's what's going on is when we
achieve the level of mastery of the

understanding of our being and, and the.

The, the permanent access to
higher F frequencies has gone

through the gates of choice.

Then at that point.

At that point, we're in a place where
the correct thing is actually just to let

go of trying to understand and just be,

Audree: we've been in
letting go for like a year.

You know, remember how scary
that was in the beginning.

Michael: Well, I, yeah, well see
the thing is, it's not like it's

letting go as like a one and done.

No, it's, and, and this is kind of
ties in with the, you know, the,

the mantra of the whole thing or the

Audree: it's layers, honey

Michael: of trust, the process,
it's layers, trust the process,

you know, letting go, I mean
this, you know, surrender.

I mean, you know, these are, these are
concepts, but you know, when, what,

these are actually very practical.

Technologies of evolution that I,
I'm just, I'm just seeing this now.

They're technology of evolution because as
you lean into them, layer, you said layers

layer after layer, after layer, that is
the unlock, that is the gate of choice.

That is the, the unfolding into our truth.

Audree: Well, why does
it have to be so layer?

I mean, if you look at the way the
universe is structured, look at

wavelength frequency, for example.

Energy.

Energy is layered.

There's many, many
different LA wavelengths.

You can go string theory.

There's many different dimensions.

Everything is kind of layered.

Our skin is layered.

Michael: I think you anatomy class.

Audree: Yeah.

I love my anatomy physiology class
that it's like a philosophy class.

Did you know that?

Because you start to learn about the
body and then you're like, holy shit.

Like who made this?

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: Anyways.

Side note.

Michael: Well, so, so that's what, that's

Audree: sort of, so wait, let's talk about
what does she say about Surrender Source

and you coming into like Source Unity?

Coming into Unity, ending the er.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: You know, the
ER and ending the ender.

Michael: So, ending the er.

Ending the er, the ing,
the struggle, the push.

The resistance,

Audree: the fear, the anxiety,
the frustration, the anger.

Michael: Yeah.

And then, and then every, oh my gosh.

And then everything gets crazy.

'cause then it's not even ending it.

I mean, you know, we think ending
it means that we, you know, get rid

of it or dissolve it or whatever.

But then, you know, lo and
behold, you discover, well,

actually that's not ending it.

What ending it means is actually
integrating those lower frequencies

into the higher frequencies, which
is what a higher frequency is, and

harmonizing the whole structure.

And it's actually something
completely different than you

ever thought was going on.

And it's just like, what?

Yeah.

Madness.

I mean, really.

I mean it's like madness is the
mind thinking he can understand.

That's what madness is.

Audree: Well, don't they?

There's that famous saying,
the knife can never cut itself.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

That's for sure.

True.

Anyway, when I come back to what you were
saying about, um, about, you know, the,

you know, why are there so many layers?

Can't this be faster and shorter?

And, you know, I think that's what our
quest has been for the last 10 years

Audree: mm-hmm.

Michael: Is like, how do we find
the, the easiest, shortest path,

Audree: the fastest, most
rapid and direct means?

Michael: And, and I know
I've had the same, just

Audree: like the book.

Michael: Yeah.

I know.

I've had the same experiences you with our
students with where, oh my gosh, wow, this

took us like, you know, months or years.

And they're getting it in like a.

In a, in a six day retreat.

It's like WTF and it's like, what?

Um, and I'm like, on the one hand,
I'm so delighted and thrilled and, and

Audree: experiencing joy for, have
to like, fly to India, go through all

of that, drive through the country,
sit there for 30 days, get sick.

Michael: Yeah.

I remember the first time
I went to oneness in India.

I got so sick, like I was sick.

The whole, the whole of, of, uh,
I think it was called OPC then

OPC one, or it was called Partners
one, I don't know, whatever.

Anyway, level one and
then part of level two.

And then, so two years later when I retook
the whole thing, it's like, wow, I don't

know if I've ever heard this before.

This is amazing.

Like, because I, I had
no, I had no awareness.

I obvious like it was, I mean, it
was also my consciousness shifted.

I mean, that's why we.

You know, it's good to take things
again and again because it's

not actually the same course.

It's actually what we get.

Audree: You're, you're looking at me.

I spent five months.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I'm a slacker compared to you.

Audree: By the time I was done, I
wanted to shave my head and be a monk.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: It was fun though.

Michael: It would feel really good
'cause there was a sense of belonging.

There was a, a sense of, you know, going,
knowing ourself, knowing the truth of what

we are moving through this purification
process is the biggest endorphin rush.

It's like beyond anything else to know
and have that experience of coming the

Audree: truth.

Not

Michael: when you're

Audree: in it though.

Like when you're in the muck.

Michael: No.

When you're in the muck, it's hell.

And when you're stalled,
you know, stalled.

Making no progress.

That means you're ready for a
breakthrough, and until you get the

breakthrough, it's just complete.

Hell.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

I wish Doug was here.

Michael: Hmm?

Audree: We can, we can sit
around and talk about that.

The good old days.

Michael: Good old days.

Yeah.

Doug G.

Audree: Mm.

Michael: Anyway, so what I got with,
you know, it being shorter and easier.

For, for students of this work.

What I got out of that is, well, it's
actually as my beliefs and perceptions

change of what, how I perceive our
students, then that changes everything.

And I can already feel
that that happening.

So I don't, I don't know how
fast things are gonna happen now.

I mean, it's, it's really,
uh, it's very interesting.

Audree: So when I was
with, I'll just say t.

Um, and he was, he was actually trained.

He wanted me to take over his, I
don't know, I don't, his students,

I'll just say it was his students.

He woke up every single morning
and he sat on the edge of his bed

and he brought in energetically all
of his students, and he held them.

Mm-hmm.

In so much love.

And he is like, Audrey,
this is what you do.

This is what you have to do.

You have to hold your people,
you have to hold them.

And you know, I would sit with
him and I could see all of his

students and I can feel them.

And it was just so, like the
love that he had, you know,

was this like pure innocent?

Love and desire for knowing the truth of
who they were and holding them in that,

and Joel Goldsmith talks about that too.

That's how he heals.

He doesn't see anybody as broken or
have a disease, or have poverty or

have conflict or being in a divorce.

He doesn't see that.

He just sees them as.

He calls it, you know, something
different we call source.

But it's like he's, you know, he
gets in that state where he says the

I am I, the father and I are one.

He gets in that unity consciousness
and then there is nothing else.

So you're talking about our role.

Our role is.

Not as a teacher, our role is a holder.

It's like we hold the transmission, this
energetic, the energy of the concept

of we hold the, we hold possibility,
which I'm, that's what I'm good at.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: According to my
design, my human design.

Michael: Right.

And so that's the other piece
is that there's a really.

What we call the transmission
is just the choice, just source

conscious itself, waking itself up.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And so it's not,
it's nothing to do with us.

It's like, you know, the aspect of, of
a person on the planet right now that's

choosing to come into this work that wants
to move to the truth of its own being, to,

to that, that, that being on the planet.

Is source consciousness,
creating that experience.

And the transmission is source
consciousness, you know,

communicating with itself.

That's why I'm saying like there's
nothing for me to do other than

to like give people some, you
know, tools and experiences

Audree: or some point, you know, pointers

Michael: point out to say, look, you do
this thing and then you do this thing.

And so there is a step-by-step path.

Audree: What's the biggest thing
that you see in the students

that's like a blocker for them?

Like what, what blocks them
on their, on their journey?

Michael: Well,

so this is where, this is where I
think the whole, the whole structure of

creation is kind of all, all together.

And it's like, you know, what comes first?

It's, it is more like there's an arising
of simultaneous factors that are there.

So I'll, I'll start talking about what I,
what I see as those simultaneous factors.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: The, the, you know,
if we could go to a root of it.

Well, there is no, it's
like chicken and egg anyway.

Mm-hmm.

So, but one of the key things
is the self deception, right?

Is the lying to ourselves, which
is, when we do that, that is the,

the highest form of self-sabotage.

Audree: Gimme an example
of, of self-deception.

Michael: I'm fine.

The phrase, I'm fine.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: You know, the truth is
we're we, we're not experiencing

fine in our beingness.

Right.

We're

Audree: what is fine.

Fucked up, insecure, neurotic, and

Michael: emotional.

Audree: Emotional.

Michael: Yeah.

And so what, what really this is
about, is about starting to be

really honest with ourself, right.

What happens is because we do not have
the tools, because really there has

been no hope on planet Earth, right?

Mm-hmm.

So, you know, this is
kinda like my, my byline.

It's like, well, you know, if you've been
like self-medicating or, you know, using

alcohol or sex or, you know, sports or
gambling or whatever to distract yourself.

Audree: Or YouTube.

Michael: Or YouTube, yeah.

Or, or binge watching on Netflix
or whatever it is, right?

To distract your or anime or,

Audree: but Bridgeton is so good.

Michael: Oh, you thought
the no shots fired.

Anyway, if you're doing that to distract
yourself or travel or this or that, or

time with friends or you know, whatever
it is that you're doing, sports, you

know, exercise, yoga, whatever you're
doing to distract yourself to take

the pain of life, I say, good for you.

Because without having the
tools, that's the best you can.

You can do to take the pain
and suffering out of existence.

So, so good.

A hundred percent.

And when you're ready, when
people are ready for more,

the tools are actually here.

Right.

And, and so that's why self-deception
is the core, is to when we, when when

the tools are there, you can admit to
yourself, yes, this is not working for me.

Yes, I'm experiencing fear about
finances, about relationship, about work.

You know, we can de coat it.

We call it stress.

Oh yeah.

Everyone's got stress at work.

No, no, no.

Like this is not our
natural state of being.

Stress is a, is a, is extremely toxic.

I mean, you know, there's all
these toxic chemicals being

released into our physiology

Audree: that we become addicted to by,

Michael: yeah.

And so like, you know, I mean really
the only thing you can really say is not

I'm fine, but like, wow, I'm addicted to
these low frequency energetic structures.

And this, these horrible
feelings in my body.

And when you start there saying
like, huh, you know, am I ready

to do something about that?

Audree: Right.

Michael: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh.

Or these other people like, you
know, okay, so if, if you're

one of these people, like, you

know, this is really just an invitation.

You know, the people who,
who have mystical awareness.

Or energetic awareness, and they think
I'm fine because I've got guides or you

know, I can see energetically I can do

Audree: things.

Michael: But really

Audree: one of my biggest
awakenings in the temple in India

was that very, that very thing.

Michael: Right.

Well, so, so

Audree: I'll, I'll tell you about it.

Go ahead.

Michael: Yeah, so, so like, you know,
so I think those are the people who have

the greatest potential for evolution and
are the ones that are the block the most.

Because they're in this egoic self
deception loop of, well, I've got

it figured out and I know more
than other people, so I'm fine.

Well, like, unless you've ended your
pain and suffering, you're not fine.

Right.

Mystical awareness does
not end pain and suffering.

Guidance does not end pain and suffering.

Seeing things energetically and having
healing ability does not end Your pain

and suffering does not get you out of
the loop of the egoic consciousness.

It doesn't.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: It just distracts you
from what you actually need to do.

Audree: It does.

So here's, here's what happened to me.

We were in the temple, we were doing a
process, and this is when I was there.

I don't, there were about a thousand
people there and everybody is

like screaming and going through
like their pain or whatever.

And, um.

All of a sudden I, I'm like having a
mystical experience and it's like this

boat coming towards me and Jesus is on the
boat and I'm starting to feel like really

like good and you know, and it's like,
oh, I'm having this mystical experience

and I wonder what's gonna happen.

And like in the whole entire
room starts to fade away.

And then I was like, wait a
minute, this is just the mind.

And the minute I did that, it went like,
my mind went woo and everything stopped

and I became so present in the moment.

It was like this crystal clear

presence in my being.

I just sat and listened to every
single person in that room.

I can hear, I can hear them individually,
I can hear them as a collective.

I could.

I, you know, and it was like,
there was no thought about it.

It was just like, there was just this
isness of like, I was just very, very

present with other people's pain.

That was, that started to be some of
the last times that when I was in India.

Where I had such awakened experience,
like I was just like, why are these people

like prostrating to a, a, a golden ball?

Like, what, what's going on?

And like my mind was like super,
super clear and not making up

stories and it was just this
really, really beautiful experience.

But that like.

As a mystic.

I'm a mystic.

I've been a mystic my whole life.

I've been in contact with my guides.

I'm trained as a healer.

I could see, feel energy,
like all these things.

And like what you said, it's
like I thought I was done.

Like I thought, oh, I'm
done because I'm a healer.

I'm working on a medical team,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I wasn't.

I still had, you know, a hard
time with my parents, with my

relationship, my family, with myself.

I remember one time I was driving and I
was at a stoplight, and I had a blister

on the back of my heel, and I was sitting
at the stoplight and I was digging.

My heel into the back of my
shoe, so I would feel pain.

Like I, and I kept doing it over and
over and I, I noticed I was doing this,

this is before I went to India, but I, I
noticed I was doing this and I was like.

Why am I causing pain in my, to my body?

Like, what am I doing?

There was another moment where I was
like washing dishes and I was making up

these negative stories, random negative
stories about bad things that can

happen, and I caught myself and I was
like, why am I making up this story?

Like, what am like, what am I doing?

It's like we're, we're on.

We're just so.

It's kind of like brainwashed into pain
and suffering that we don't, sometimes

we don't even notice what we're doing.

Hmm.

So when I asked you that question
about what is the biggest block,

Michael: oh, I've got more.

You just triggered more.

Audree: Yeah.

Yeah, go ahead.

I want to hear,

Michael: oh yeah.

So I think, you know, really.

You know, what you said about
the, the, the inner thoughts.

I mean, this is the part where we
we're not really honest with ourselves

about what's really going on.

Mm-hmm.

Like, like, let's admit it, you
know, we're feeling the shame, we're

feeling this deep unworthiness, we're
feeling this emptiness in our soul.

You know, we're feeling imposter syndrome.

I mean, you can just take the, the,
the book of psychological stuff of,

you know, and everybody has this.

It's not like, you know.

You know, there's any, you know, this
is the happiest person in the world.

Like when the ego consciousness and play,
this is there, this is there and we might

have more adaptive strategies and, and
all the machinery that you've built up.

To survive this, this kind of, this
corrosive inner nature is actually

limiting you from evolving, right?

Mm-hmm.

And so there, this is part of the,
the block is someone says, oh, but

I've already made so much progress
on my journey, da, da, da, da, da.

And it's like, well, look, the point is,

Audree: yes, they have.

Michael: Yes you have.

And have you solved the
actual root problem?

No, you have not.

It's still there.

There's still the negative attack
thoughts going on inside your head.

They are.

There's the, the, the, these uncomfortable
body sensations that are there.

But of course, most people, you
know, a lot of people, especially

men, you know, have dumbed down
their whole emotional system.

I know this was true for me, where,
you know, I, I shut off my emotional

system survival is, or as, as
much as I could have, and I wasn't

aware of my own body sensations.

That's how disc, I mean,
that's the awareness.

Like see how disconnected
you are from your own body.

See how disconnected you are from your
truth about what's actually you're

actually experiencing in your life.

So what we're saying here is just
be honest with yourself, like

really honest, and ask yourself,
well, do I really want this?

Do I believe it's possible?

Am I ready to, you know, in the

Audree: right?

Like what if

Michael: exception, I'm ready

Audree: to take a leap of faith.

What if it were true?

Like we always, I mean, what
if it were, what if it were

true is one of the biggest.

For me when I watched you doing that, and
then I started doing that, it was one of

the, the most eye-opening, self-reflective
exercises that I could possibly do.

'cause you gave me feedback in that
moment and I was like, I don't do that.

I don't do that.

And then I was like, what if it were true?

And then I was, and then I could
see, and then I was like, oh my God.

And that we'll go back.

We talk about awareness a lot, but we
say awareness is the primary mechanism

for evolution, and it's so true.

Michael: Well, so I, I guess the, what
if it were true for anyone listening

to this is, you know, what if it were
true that you know, you know what, what

if it were true that you were actually
experiencing these things in your

life, and what if it were true that
you actually wanted to make a change?

What if we're true that the
possibility of making that change

is actually here And you can start.

I mean, that, that's what I,
I think that's what it is.

It's like believing it's possible.

And a lot of, and this is the, the
block you asked about the blocks.

A lot of people don't think it's
possible or they've, you know, committed.

You know, we had that one place we
were in, in Scotland, that, that,

that, uh, you know, near Rosalyn Chapel
were staying in that, that Airbnb.

Oh yeah.

And there was that bookcase,
this beautiful bookcase.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: And I could see this

Audree: of all the spiritual teachings.

Yeah.

The,

Michael: all the teachers.

All the

Audree: teachers, the yoga,
the meditation, all the books,

Michael: you know, all the different
self-help and psychology and

like all the thi, all the books.

And it's like, I'm looking outta that
this person's life, you know, decades

of this person's life, you know,
seeking this path and knowing that

these books, this, these technologies
can only take a person so far.

Audree: How do I mute my mic?

I need to

Michael: talk.

You press the, uh, the button once.

Audree: Is that it?

Michael: Yeah.

Okay.

Um, so, so anyway, so that, that's
where, that's where, so, so really

the, there, there's so many.

Like, if you look at, if I, when I look
back on my whole journey, the whole

journey is like just working through
the self-deception and the, and the,

the, uh, um, the self-sabotage, right?

And, you know, we, we don't even want
to admit that we're doing self-sabotage.

And yet, you know, if we look
at our life, that's the truth

of what's actually going on.

I mean, there's no one
doing it to us, right?

That's the whole victimization
story that is so compelling.

Like, what if it were true that you
are the only one who's been victimizing

yourself and you can learn how to stop?

Oh, well, what's the alternative?

That, oh, I'm a victim and I can't help
it, and I'm gonna stay being victimized

by the world in my circumstances.

Okay, well, which ones?

Which one do you wanna live?

Audree: Well, I like when it's your fault.

Michael: I know.

Let's see.

It makes it so much more
comfortable with somebody else.

Audree: It does.

Michael: Anyway, I've
got a question for you.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Yesterday when you listened
to the third pod first podcast that was

live, you're like, oh my God, this is not
authentic enough and blah, blah, blah.

Is this better?

Audree: I don't know.

Michael: You have no idea.

Audree: I'm I'm, I am like, I'm,
I guess I'm a perfectionist.

Michael: Yeah.

So I just wanted to say
something, two words.

You may know them.

Audree: Stop it.

Michael: Stop it.

Yeah.

Like just, let's just
enjoy the whole process.

Like there's no need to try to perfect it.

Is

Audree: there a way that people
can comment on the podcast?

'cause the only thing
I wanna hear is, um, I.

This is not about selling our work.

Like I don't want this to,
it's not a sales thing.

It's just that like I, we have
the coolest conversations.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And I don't know,
for me, it's fascinating.

Michael: Well, I've
enjoyed this conversation.

This has been really good.

You know what it does for me,

Audree: but it feels a little like,
I know that when we have the mics

off and you and I are talking,
there's, it feels slightly different.

It's almost like I wish that the,
the microphone was just on and we

were going about our day, and then,

Michael: then it gets amalgamated into a

Audree: somehow it, yeah.

Well, I think, look,

Michael: I think that would
be, I think that can happen.

So

let's

Audree: just keep No, that's
like a reality show and I

Michael: don't want that either.

No's No, it's an like an edited,
like, it's just like a, like

a sound bites from the day.

Anyway, we, we can experiment anyway, so

how do we start this whole thing?

I know I, it started with the role,
so let's just come back and close what

it feels like it's time for, and I
was talking about what my role is and

having this deeper understanding of.

Right.

So why are we sharing all this?

Like it's really, you know, for me
right now, what I'm experiencing is

this perception of everyone listening
to this as source consciousness.

Hearing this, experiencing this

as an invitation.

I mean, it's not on me whether anyone.

It comes into this work or not, it's
that person's being with their own

decision of what they want to create.

It has nothing to do with me.

And I think for me it's just
about saying, Hey, it's possible.

It is possible.

I think that's the, if you
ask this biggest block.

Is people not believing it's possible
or believing It has to be a lot of work.

And you know what if it were true

that it's easier than you think.

Audree: I like that.

Michael: So we'll close now with a mantra.

Anything more?

Audree: I was thinking about it.

I think, um,

it's like in our, in our leadership
training, we would always say, you are

the problem and you are the solution.

And it's so true.

And when that's where you
know you have the control.

One of the most profound things about
evolution is taking your power back.

It's like we've walked around giving
our power away consistently, and

we've given our power away to
other people, and at the same

time, we've given our power away
to our own thoughts in our head.

Our own, our own limitations.

When we, when we drop into this place
of like, not believing it's possible or

it's hopeless or it's just gonna be this
way, and I'm, I, I'm actually speaking

it myself right now, it's really, we're
giving our power away to the limitation.

All, all, all I'm I'm doing
here is I'm taking my power back

consistently, taking my power back

and.

Believing in possibility.

Michael: I, it's not, see, this is
where I, this is what I'm getting.

Right?

It's not even believing in possibility.

Audree: Well,

Michael: believe has the word,
believe is the word lie in it.

So it's actually just
saying, what if it were true?

Audree: Right.

Michael: And being open
to the possibility.

That things can be different.

Audree: Right?

It's

Michael: not even believing, it's just
saying, I'm going to, I'm making the

choice to be open to this possibility.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: It's actually a choice.

It's not a belief.

It's a choice.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: That's why we say it's
the choice to evolve and when

we make that choice to evolve.

Behind that choice to evolve
is the, the, is the choice to

be open to the possibility.

That's what I'm getting right now.

Audree: And in that moment.

Michael: I've never said this before.

Audree: I know.

And in that moment,

Michael: do you feel that energetically,

Audree: I, I could feel your power?

Like, so you're taking your power back,
like we've only been disempowering

ourselves and now we're taking it back.

Michael: Whew.

It's really opening the choice
to, that's what you said to,

Audree: mm-hmm.

Michael: To claim our power.

Audree: Yeah.

I can feel that

Michael: to claim our truth.

Audree: It's our birthright.

I keep saying

Michael: it.

You keep saying it and
I'm feeling it right here.

Wow.

This is really powerful.

Audree: It's so powerful.

It feels uncomfortable in your body.

That's like when you
know you're right there.

'cause it's not power as we know power.

It is just feeling that your energy,
like your full energy, which is

a very, very high vibrational
frequency, feeling that flowing

through your being through your body.

And our bodies aren't used to that.

Michael: Wow.

Audree: It's like when something
feels so good, you can't hold it.

Yeah.

Michael: And what we're saying
yes to in that moment, through

that choice is actually just we're
saying yes to what and who we are.

You were asking if there's a shorter
way, I think this might be part of it.

So let's see where this goes.

Audree: Mm, mm-hmm.

Michael: Now we can close.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Okay.

Should

Audree: we close with, uh,

Michael: yeah, we'll take
three minutes of E two mantra.

Well, actually I don't
even do that anymore.

I just do like I am or just
go straight to business, but.

Audree: Okay.

It's

Michael: the same thing.

Audree: It's the same thing.

Michael: It's all same thing.

We'll call it E two mantra,
because that's where you start.

Hmm.

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