B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So you, you
asked, uh, what's going on?

And I feel like the, the she,
they said yesterday at the chat

meeting, "Oh, there's so much."

So much to say.

So I guess I can begin
with a shower revelation.

Those are always good.

And the revelation I had was that
Every day actually is Groundhog Day.

So there's this wonderful movie,
Groundhog Day, where every day you wake

up and it's the same day, Groundhog Day.

And there's a beautiful, um, annotated
version with John Mark Stroud and One

Who Wakes, or Waking Up from the Movies,
um, that I've, I've watched many times.

And what the insight and realization is
that everybody on planet Earth, every

day for them is actually Groundhog Day.

And what I mean by that is that the
internal experiences people have

every day are pretty much the same.

The same fears, the same worries,
the same stresses, the same,

you know, small moments of joy.

It's the same thing every day.

And that really the only difference
between day, you know, one day and

the next day is the costume that
the universe creates to make it

look like it's a different day.

And that really the only real measure
of what's happening within us is what

we're realizing about ourself each day.

What's the, what's our evolution between,
you know, one day and the next day.

And, you know, when you think through the
movie, that there, there's this beautiful

arc of evolution where, you know, by
repeating the same day over and over

again, the, the character goes through
this, you know, self-realization process.

And I think that's what, that's what's
happening here, except most people

are missing the, you know, the waking
up part or the evolution part because

they don't, they don't really have
the tools or the lenses to, to do

it, or they get to a certain point
and they're satisfied and so on.

So that was my, my realization
is that every day here on Earth

actually is Groundhog Day.

It's just decorated differently.

All right, shall I go on then?

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: So the next one is

You asked me yesterday, it's like
we were watching this Europe from

Above documentary, and there was
this, this billboard of, you know,

this, uh, well, this, this wall.

I mean, this is about, um, I guess it
was Denmark and how they paint, they

paint the sides of buildings to make it
interest- interesting in this one city.

And how, you know, you saw this,
this, this, this woman who, you know,

was there and, and there was someone
pouring her coffee and, and you,

and you had a spontaneous download
of like, "Oh, Michael, maybe you

should be so with somebody else."

And what that triggered for me is this,
you know, this, you know, this deep

purification around attachment and
relationship and all this other stuff.

And then so I thought, "Okay, well
I'm just gonna clear, you know,

let, let the little things go."

So it was a very, very,
very rapid purification.

And then, and then so I, I left it.

And then so this morning it started
coming into my consciousness again.

It's kind of like started appearing
and I started to go, "Okay,

well what is this really about?"

And then I started to poke into, uh,
human design and relationship dynamics.

And, you know, it's really
interesting because the whole, the

whole structure of it explains what
the problem on planet Earth is.

If I look in, in the tool we're
using, it's called partnership

analysis, you know, as if for, you
know, two people dating or looking

at dating or, or you know, being in a
relationship or something like that.

And that's the whole problem of
humans on planet Earth right now, or

a big part of it, is that the whole
confusion of creation with other

beings on the planet is confused
with sexuality and sexual relations.

And what I realized within my own being
is this deep miswiring, cross-wiring

between creation energy and sexual
energy and, and, and sex and like, and

so like, you know, I was feeling into

So, so what happens is there are these
things called electrodynamics, which

are where one person has one gate,
the other person has the other gate,

and together they make a channel.

So they create a superpower together.

Mm-hmm.

Not only that, the electrodynamics,
that's one aspect of why they're powerful.

The other powerful aspect is, and
this is true for me, 'cause I've got a

split definition, is that other people
can s- connect a, a, a, a, a split

that connects our definition, right?

And so, like, in our
relationship, you connect...

You're, you're single
definition, so you're fine.

But m- for me, I have a split definition.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Now, that's the fir-
And, and, and, and you, you

got a gate that bridges that.

So, so at, at the first level,
there's a sense of completion, right?

However, that's not the whole story.

I've known this for a while.

I...

This is like, this is, like,
the information that gets parked

in the back of my brain as,
like, "Huh, this is like this.

I wonder what this means or
what to do about it," right?

And it just gets parked

Audree: there.

Oh, thank you, Scorpio full moon-

Michael: Yeah.

So-

... Audree: for exposing hidden things.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so what I got- Mm-hmm ... is there's
another layer of completion which is,

is my kind of incarnational structure,
we're working on, um, life purpose,

audio, and so on, is my, you know, sun,
Earth, design, personality, are they

all accessible to my defined nodes?

Is there a way to get there?

And for you, your Earth is trapped
way, way, way down in the gate

of revolution, and it's not
connected with your definition.

And our relationship
doesn't connect it up.

So your incarnational purpose can't be
fully activated within our partnership.

Audree: Aha.

Michael: And my, my sun, my
gate 16 off of the throat,

while you split my bridge, that gate
is off and connected and separate.

So the, the most powerful
creation aspect of who I am

through my sun is disconnected.

And so I'm just getting this
now, is that our purpose of our

relationship being together is
about the process of waking up.

It's not about bringing
our work to the world.

It's not about manifesting
it here in the 3D plane.

It's, it's about building up
the foundation for that, but w-

but that's, like, not complete.

Like, we need other people to complete
the connections in order to do the work.

So what you said was incorrect for the...

was correct, but for the wrong reasons.

Audree: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

So-

Michael: And it wasn't about having sex.

It was about creating.

Audree: I wasn't thinking about sex.

Michael: Okay.

Well, you said being in a
relationship or something.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Which is usually...

Sorry.

Anyway, go on.

Audree: So you us- Well,

Michael: as I said, it's
conflated in my system.

Audree: I know, 'cause
I gave you the reasons.

When I...

This woman popped up on screen.

First of all, th- this
woman was, um, beautiful.

She was a gallery owner in Denmark,
and she had created a whole entire

program where these artists came
and, and painted these huge walls

around the city to beautify the city.

Michael: Oh, I thought you were talking
about that one image of that one

woman getting c- coffee poured to her.

No, you're talking about
the actual gallery owner.

Okay, I get it

Audree: now.

Michael: Yeah.

Okay, never mind.

Audree: Whoa.

And in a split second, there was this
like, oh, she would be the perfect partner

for Michael to inspire and motivate and
support him doing his work in the world.

And I'm very aware that I can't do that.

You and I are like oil and water.

Like-

Michael: Perfect for waking up.

Audree: Perfect for waking...

No, I

Michael: know.

Audree: Perfect for waking
up, but not getting shit done.

Michael: Well,

Audree: and I think that that's
where the, the, the, the thing,

the, the rub has always been.

It's like I give you advice
the wrong way, you're immediate

resistant, you're immediate no.

Well, that's what it used

Michael: to be.

I mean, I don't know if that's still

Audree: true.

Well, I mean, you work through a lot
of that, but the, the truth is, is

that it's like a, a, a fundamental,
um, like, kind of blocker within your

own being that when anybody tells
you to do something, you say no.

You immediately, the walls come up.

It's just baked into your system.

Hm.

It's, and, and it's, and
it's super foundational.

And I remember

Michael: the whole- Well, what, what's the
level of truth right now for that, just

Audree: pause.

Mike- Michael, don't get defensive.

I'm not saying

Michael: it's not,

Audree: I'm just asking.

Michael: Because

Audree: I know you've, I know
you've worked through a lot of this.

What I'm saying is when I first saw
you, it was the very first thing that

I noticed about you- Mm-hmm ... was
your no, and how hardcore it is.

Michael: Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's 100%

Audree: true.

And, and you've, and, and it has helped
me grow, it's helped you grow, and,

and at the same time, it's like what's
gonna take you to that next level?

And, and it's not...

So you don't need a projector anymore.

You need a, you need a partnership
with a, a manifesting generator

or a generator because they are
not going to tell you what to do.

That's where the issue is.

They are going to just do their
own thing and be busy, busy, busy,

building, building, building and
creating, and because of that,

you're gonna feed off of that energy-

Michael: Mm-hmm

Audree: and it's going to just
catapult you into doing your own thing.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Because there's
nobody giving you advice.

So it, and it, and it's kind of
like this, it's a weird, it's like a

juxtaposition or a paradox because I'm
a projector, and projectors have many

generators that they're working with.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And it's interesting also is
because I have a split, I have, I have a

split, no, I have a- Yes, you definitely

I'm a single definition.

I don't need anybody.

N- n- and at the same time, that I don't
need anybody has been completely and

utterly distorted in my being because
I was adopted, and I was so angry.

And like, and, and what I've been
working through this whole entire time

is letting go of that anger, letting
go of that anger, letting go of that

anger, and it turns out the f- the
juxtaposition of everyone is this.

Nobody needs anybody because everybody
has it within them the whole entire time.

I mean, if you take human design away,
the, the, the chart, the imprint,

whatever, we are all incarnated source
consciousness, and it is within us,

and, and it is ... It behooves us
to, to consis- consistently look

inward because we are the ones
that are creating our reality.

Now, on this planet, we as a, as a
race of human beings are evolving to

understand that we are one consciousness.

So we're not separated

And we're evolving through the separation
that is very prolific on this planet

right now, and it's keeping us in
conflict and war and like, and so there's

this, there's a massive undertaking of
unity consciousness where we're, we're,

we learn, we're learning how to work
together to see each other as source

consciousness to, to build a new world
that we can live in because the one

that we live in right now is terribly,
terribly, you know, it's been, it's

been hijacked by the, um, the deviation,
and now we're coming out of that.

So we're purifying those imprints.

So, so we still need, it's, we need people
to be in co-collaboration and cooperation

and to build together as a team.

But like for me, if you, if, if
we were, if we had a team, my role

in the team is not to do any work.

Michael: It's to unblock people.

Audree: It's to unblock people.

Yeah.

It's like when I worked in California,
they called me the kitchen witch, and

I fed everybody, and then all, the
whole sales team one by one would come

into the kitchen and talk to me about
their problems and get their problems

solved, whether it was, you know, meeting
their sales goals or it was because

they had a relationship issue- Mm-hmm

or whatever was going on

You know?

And that was my role, and it was...

That's why it was so perfect for me.

That was, like, the most perfect
position for me, and I thrived in it.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And I, you know, unfortunately,
the people that I was working for

weren't paying me, you know, and it was
a whole other mess on another level.

And at the same time, it's like-

Michael: But role, we
were saying role-wise

... Audree: that's my role.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: Yeah, that's good awareness.

Audree: Yeah.

And, and even, you know, evolving
in our relationship, it's

like I have so much clarity.

Like, I just want you to be successful.

Mm-hmm.

Like, I have so much love for you.

Mm-hmm.

It wasn't 'cause you, you said,
"Oh, I was having an intimacy bump

yesterday," and what I'm realizing
as you were talking just now was

that it wasn't an intimacy bump.

It was this woman must
have had in her chart-

Michael: Right

... Audree: whatever could, whatever
could- Mm ... match your chart-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: to, to make you successful.

Michael: Right.

So-

Audree: Or to support...

I shouldn't say make you.

I should say to support and
uplift the success of your being.

Michael: Y- yeah, so when I look at the...

So th- thank you for that.

So when, when I, when I
look at the structure of it-

It's as we move on our evolutionary
journey to the truth of what we are-

Audree: Mm-hmm

... Michael: our ability to function
and bring our design alive gets

cleaner and cleaner and cleaner.

And our design is still our design.

Like, we're biological computers
that are structured a certain way.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And our, our-

Audree: It's like

Michael: the

Audree: hardware of our

Michael: program

our design, our hardware that
we're working with, the gates,

the, the channels, all of that, is
designed to work with other people.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: No human being on
planet is designed to work alone.

Even, even me, like, you know,
my, my profile's, you know,

line two, I'm a hermit, right?

I'm-- That means I do really
great stuff alone, and I also

need to work closely with others.

Like, it's in, in a-- And for
me, it's this, this tight network

of people really deeply aligned
with what's, what's happening.

It's not like a, you know,
broad kind of loose network.

It's, it's very, it's very close.

And so, so even with that,
we're designed for the other.

We're designed to work with the other.

We only can realize what our life
purpose is, our incarnational

purpose, with the other.

It's not possible to do it all by ourself
because we don't have all the gates.

We don't have all the pieces of
the puzzle that are needed in

order for everything to come alive.

That's what these electromagnetics
I'm talking about are.

They're activations or completions
of, of, of channels and pathways to

bring alive capabilities within the,
within the shared, shared co-creation.

Audree: Well, we don't have the
electromagnetics for- We do.

Michael: We do have some, but
that's what I'm saying, that,

that there are different layers of
match and analysis and completion.

Audree: Like, what was my earth
that you were talking about?

That's

Michael: like- It's
your gate of revolution.

It's off the emotional center, so
it's an undefined gate for you.

Well, that's defined for me.

We don't have that connected
to, to your defined area, which

is throat, ajna, mind, right?

Audree: And our charts
together don't connect my-

Michael: Well, they're, they're-- Our
charts together are separate, right?

So our...

It's like our se- our, together,
there's a, there's a longing

for something to completion.

That's why we were talking about,
oh, you know, we're looking for

a COO or someone to complete the-

Audree: Mm-hmm

... Michael: you know, the circle.

So it all, it all comes full circle

Audree: So we're not breaking up.

Michael: Well, no.

So then, then the weird thing that I,
that I went into is, okay, well let

me just look at what is pure source
consciousness, which is I'm experiencing

very deeply of just wanting to create,
and it has no attachment to anything.

Mm-mm.

It's like, it's just creation.

It's like let's create with joy and
pleasure and, and ease and grace.

And it's like, it...

But, and other than that, there's,
there's no constraint, right?

And so then I'm look- going into
and, like, feeling my being, these

places where I'm hitting up societal
conditioning and realizing, oh, there's

these deeply programmed structures of
this is h- oh, be in a relationship.

This is what a relationship looks like.

This is how to function.

This is why you need it.

This is...

And then all the fears that, that can...

And all, and I'm just seeing all
this c- connection and conditioning

around relationship, and then all this
conditioning around this misfiring

of, of, of s- of creation energy.

And creation energy and sexual
energy are the same energy.

It's the exact same energy.

That's- But what happens is we get
confused about what it is that's actually

happening, and we see, and at least for
me in my life, I experience every, all

creation energy through a sexual lens.

So, like, there's all this deeply
distorted codified stuff in my, my being-

Mm-hmm ... that I'm letting go of now.

And so there's this purification
that's happening as I start to

go, okay, well, okay, I'm, I'm f-
experiencing creation energy here.

It's feeling sexual.

Let me, let me, let me pull this apart.

Right.

Like, what's really happening?

Audree: That's why, um, well,
first of all, that's why people

use, um, there's something called
sex magic or they, or, or tantra.

Mm-hmm.

You know, because they're activating
that, that energy within the body.

But it, it's actually...

And, and people call it, uh, oh,
I'll s- people call it an orgasm.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And what I realized a
long time ago was orgasmic energy-

Mm-hmm ... is just source consciousness
coming, like, coming through.

It's just high vibrational
frequency that's coming through

your being, and it is the very thing
that is used to create reality.

I, I h- I just burned
tons of writing about it.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: You know, while I was
experimenting in California,

having experiences in California.

That's, that was one of the biggest things
that I learned, was that that is the

energy of creation, and it's so beautiful.

And we're deeply conditioned
and distorted, and it's

thing to think it's sex.

And that's also why when people
go to gurus or teachers, and they

start to wake up, and this energy
within them starts to unlock and flow

through them, they're like, "Oh my
God, I'm in love with my teacher."

And then there's all kinds of, you
know, like all these gurus out there,

um, get caught up in, in, in the sex,
in the sexual part of, of what's going

on between the teacher and the student.

Mm-hmm.

Because there's a misconception
of what, what's happening.

Even like the one student, like we did
the, we did the eye diksha, and they're

like, "Oh my God, I'm in love with you,"
and I'm, I'm like, "No, it's just a

misunderstanding of what that energy is."

Michael: Right.

Audree: So I want- Or, "I'm,
I'm not in love with you.

I'm having a sexual reaction to you."

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Yeah.

It's very hard for people to be
clean, you know, 'cause then they're,

they're grabbing on using sex as
a manipulation tactic for, um,

thinking that, you know, they need
the other person or for survival.

Well, then it

Michael: starts hitting
all the conditioning and

distortion in their system.

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Audree: And now I went through
all of this in the beginning of

January with that relationship.

Michael: Oh.

Audree: Like I just saw
like how, you know, I was in

Michael: survival mode.

Yeah, see,

Audree: you're more,

Michael: you have more training than I do.

So, so I think I'd like to
just repeat your news headline.

Audree: I have more training than

Michael: you?

Way more.

I, I'm just a, I'm just a...

All right.

So-

Audree: I'm such a Leo.

Yeah.

Okay, go ahead.

I love you.

Michael: So you said something there
is, and I, I want you to repeat it.

It's like orgasmic energy
is creation energy.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Yeah.

And so I, I'll just say that.

Is that how you say, said it?

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Orgasmic energy
is creation energy.

Audree: It is the energy of creation.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so what I was happening
to me this morning is my whole

creation energy opened up.

Audree: Mm.

Michael: Like opened up.

Mm.

So, and then I'm like

And so it was real-- So I was
just, I was basically giving myself

permission and blowing through all the
conditioning around it, like letting

go, letting go, letting go, letting go.

And then I got to this place of opening
up, and then it's like, and then

all this sexual urge gets activated.

I'm like, "What the hell?"

And then it's like, oh, this is the, the
ego consciousness wanting to dissipate.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Want it-- Instead of using
that energy for creation- Right.

It's

Audree: so powerful coming through

Michael: you

yeah, it's so powerful.

It, it's like, it's almost
like I can't hold it.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: And then I'm looking, okay, well,
there's that, there's the conditioning

there, there's the conditioning
there, and just burning through it.

Right.

I'm not finished yet, but
there, there's more to go.

And but so what, what I'm getting at
here is that people's power, their

access to their own creation energy
is confused, distorted, and locked up.

Audree: And dissipated.

Michael: And dissipated, yeah.

Yeah.

So, so people wanna create a
different future for themselves, a

different reality, create an outcome.

Well, g- l- well, maybe we wanna look at
where's your energy, like, going astray.

I mean, like, and this is,
like, not like a one and done.

This is like a pulling back the layers-

Audree: Mm-hmm

Michael: of societal conditioning.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Of everything.

I mean, like-

Audree: So why do you think sex has
been locked down in our society?

It's been distorted in our society.

It's been- Like

Michael: you don't even
talk about it really.

Audree: Yeah.

Or it's bad.

Or you- Yeah ... you know,
you have to wait for marriage,

or there's all these con-

Michael: Like you have guilt around
it, or shame around it, or- Oh,

Audree: shame around it.

Now, what's interesting is in between
the ages of three and four, um, children

are, like, they're, they're, um, that
energy within their body, I don't wanna

say their sexuality, I wanna say the
energy in their body starts to spark up.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And they'll touch themselves.

And what happens when a child
touches themselves is the parent

immediately says, "Don't do that."

Yeah.

"That's inappropriate.

Stop that."

Michael: Or they're feeling shame
because, you know, if it's a young

boy, they're having a spontaneous
erection or something like that.

Audree: Yeah.

And they're like, "What's going on?"

Yeah.

"What's wrong with me?"

Michael: Yeah, exactly.

Right.

Audree: Right?

There's something wrong with me.

And-

Michael: And they're sha- you
know, it's just like, like what?

Audree: They're shamed.

Yeah.

Michael: Yeah,

Audree: yeah.

And then so that's y- at a early
age, those, that pattern comes in.

Michael: Or even people now who
are listening, it's like, well,

you know, what, what, what, what
shame or what comes up for you

when you think about masturbation?

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Like you're
just touching your body.

I mean, it's your body.

I mean, like ... And

Audree: it feels good.

Michael: Feels good, yeah.

I mean, so, like, what, what comes up?

"Oh, no, I shouldn't do this.

What will my partner think?

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

Mm-hmm.

Like all this, all this stuff,
you're just activating the

creation energy within your field.

Like, what?

So What does this have
to do with waking up?

Well, so in order to work through this,
let's say, you know, you know, we have

somebody wanting to work, this requires...

I mean, I, I don't know if
this is workable without

getting to advanced stages.

I mean-

Audree: Oh, this is really interesting
too, 'cause I think about those monks

that are celibate and all those, um-

practices that pra- that
practice, um, celibacy.

Michael: Yeah.

You

Audree: know?

And, and so part of that is i- in
the beginning, I think the initial...

I, I'm, I'm supposing on this, that the
initial, uh, teaching was that instead

of dissipating that energy outward with
a, a climax which would shoot the energy

out- Yeah ... of your body, that, that,
that climax is cultivated within the body-

Michael: Mm-hmm

Audree: to use it for, for, for creation
energy- Mm-hmm ... for creating your

reality, for giving you health and
vitality in your body, for reaching those,

um, higher levels of, or the, the higher
energetic frequency that puts you into

a higher state of, um, of awareness or
of an altered state of consciousness.

Michael: Oh.

You know what he's got?

Audree: What?

Michael: That, that whole celibacy
thing- Mm-hmm ... which is not just in

Eastern traditions, it's in, you know,
in Christianity and so on and so on.

Mm-hmm.

That is a workaround, attempted workaround
for the sexual aspect of a human being.

And you know what?

It doesn't work, 'cause that's
why you have all these, you know,

priests doing this and that and...

And even for, you know, people who are
celibate monks, it doesn't mean that

that's been addressed or gone away.

It's just ignored.

It's like, "Oh, I'm not gonna deal
with this, and just focus over here."

And so what we're saying is for
completion, it needs to actually be get-

Audree: Wholeness ... for

Michael: wholeness, it needs
to actually get addressed.

And if you look at advanced Eastern
practitioners, let's say Guru

Rinpoche, Guru Rinpoche- Oh ... was
famous, famous for tantric sex of,

of, uh, using- Oh, yeah ... sex.

You know, he, he-

Audree: And he had women
devotees, and he had- With

Michael: all these different princesses
in different kingdoms Oh, yeah.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

I mean, like- Oh, yeah

you

Audree: know,

Michael: he got around.

Audree: Yeah, he did.

You

Michael: know?

Like, like, look at that.

I mean, if you-

Audree: He fucked all the cows.

Michael: Yeah, if you look at that as
a, as a spiritual tradition or valid

approach to understanding, it's like,
well, those were just mechanisms.

Mm-hmm.

It's just a mechanism to support
the, the awakening process,

or even, or even Carl Jung.

It's like- Well, orgas- ... you
know, if he'd had sex with his

patients, he wouldn't have taken

Audree: them on a boat.

I was just talking about
orgasmic meditation.

Yeah.

It was a, it was a advanced Buddhist
practice, so it must have been a, a,

a, a, a Tibetan Buddhism practice.

Michael: Right, that
just got ported back in-

Audree: Ported back into California To
utilize for, you know, deviated sex cults.

Michael: Well, you know,
truth, truth, lie, right?

Audree: Right.

Michael: So, so yeah, so
where, where's this all going?

Audree: I don't know.

Michael: What does this mean?

Well, it means that-

Audree: Should we go back to bed?

Michael: Well, that's one option.

Audree: I know.

Michael: It's always a good one.

So, so I just wanna go back to,
like, creating our own reality.

So if we want...

I mean, so we are creating our reality
now, which is we're, we're dissipating and

we're misdirecting all of that creation
energy into this dissipated experience

of life that we're having, and that as we
move towards harnessing our full being,

then that can be utilized for creating the
reality that we want, that full energy.

And, like, what I'm feeling in my being
is like, like this is like, like, like,

like I'm feel like I'm having an orgasm
right now sitting here in a chair, you

know, just experiencing my own being,
the, the, the power, the energy within

my own being, which is, which is...

I'm coming to realize this is just
a natural state of functioning.

Audree: Can we stop for a minute?

I need a bio break.

Michael: Bio break.

Copy that.

Okay.

So I was contemplating this whole thing
while Audrey was doing her bathroom break,

and what I got is that everybody just
wants to feel their own creation energy.

That's it.

We wanna feel our own
connection- It's- ... as...

Let me finish.

A- as, as source consciousness
with our own being of that,

that power that's within us.

Audree: Right.

The creation- So it's not
their creation energy.

Just let- It is the creation
energy of the universe.

Sorry.

Michael: Exactly.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: You're so excited.

That's what I was trying to say.

Sorry.

Is that, that there's a
misinterpretation of, of feeling.

Whew.

So what ha- so this is the distortion,
is we are seeing somebody else or we're

attracted to them or something like
that, and we're confusing that connection

that we have with them, that they are
somehow giving us th- this energy, but

it's actually our own energy that we're
experiencing through that situation.

And, and the, the point that we're
getting to is that when you have your own

sovereignty, it's not about getting...

You're not getting anything
through the other person, right?

You're, you're actually just using
that as a, as a sh- as a, as a...

the only technique you know to experience
that creation energy in your own being.

And what we're saying here is, well, you
know, you know, cut out the middleman.

Just experience the creation
energy within your own being.

That's what we're-- you're working
towards with this evolutionary path.

So when we look at that, it's like
everything that anyone on planet

Earth has ever thought about sex
or sex relations is a distortion

Audree: Mm-hmm

Michael: It's a distortion and a
misunderstanding of what the mechanics

are and what's actually happening.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Right?

I mean, if you think about all the--
like a lot of people on the planet,

it's like, you know, sex is like
one of the best things in life.

Like, it's this really
beautiful experience, this

orgasmic experience, right?

And if you think about it, you're just
kind of getting the closest you can in

a conditioned, deviated consciousness
trying to experience the, the, the

truth of what and who you are as source
consciousness, directly experience the

source consciousness, that creative
power energy within your being.

You're only trying to
experience your own being

That's what you've been chasing

And that's why we go back to what we
say for us, relationship is to wake up

Audree: Mm-hmm, 'cause it's gonna trigger
every single thing that you need to see

within your own being, like your own
manipulation, your own survival, your

own fear of being alone, your own fear of
death, your own self-consciousness, your

own blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It goes on and on and on.

When you're in a relationship, all of
a sudden, all those things arise within

your being so you could be aware of
them, so you could work through them.

And

i- it's a, it's a catalyst.

It's an ... A relationship is
an accelerator for evolution.

But it's not ... Well, I wanna say-

Michael: It's the fastest
accelerator I know.

Audree: Yeah, it is.

Michael: It is.

Well, so the reason it's an accelerator
is because it's hitting all up

against our societal condition
that's really deviated and messed up.

And also, what's happening is it's showing
us our projections very, very quickly.

Mm-hmm.

Our deepest, most tightly
held projections very quickly.

That's why people, you know, when, when
the relationship's wonderful, it's,

"Oh, it's the best of times, ya da, da."

'Cause we're, we're actually just
projecting our distorted, like,

y- you know, utopian version
onto the relationship, and then

when things get real, we suddenly
say, "Well, who is this person?

Why are they doing that?

They're not meeting my utopian
view of them," blah, blah, blah.

Like, it's just like ... But that's, but
that's where the juice is because the

places where there's challenge is showing
us our projections, the places where

we're triggered by what they're doing.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

So all of this went into, there was
this, there was the initial impetus

of feeling this person, this woman-

And, and there was this understand,
there was a knowing inside of me,

this per- she must have had the chart

Michael: Could be

Audree: that is, is the best
Maybe not the best, but- There's

Michael: no best

Audree: yeah.

There's no best in the frame.

I was gonna say that that can
activate something in your being for

you to initiate your life purpose.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so what it is is, um, there's
no best because different, there

are just different constellations
of, of, and degrees of, of benefit.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: It's a good catch.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah, so, so what I'm, what
I'm kinda really, I mean, for, for

us, what I'm getting as I synthesize
all of this is that it's, for me,

like the most like present and primary
thing is, is really just being in

and activating and harnessing the
creation energy within my being.

Audree: For me, I just wanna know
what my chart is so I can, I can

find the people that are gonna like,
uh, activate the, my life purpose.

I

Michael: already started
working on that this morning.

Audree: Oh.

I'm so- I

Michael: had my phone, so
I have a pocket computer.

I can do anything.

Audree: I know.

So, so this is the whole thing about- I'm

Michael: sitting in the kitchen.

I mean, like half the work that
gets done is just sitting in the

kitchen using my phone probably.

Maybe not half.

Audree: For, for me, it's, it's like
the more I listen to you about the

human design, especially 'cause we've
been working through this one audio

to unlock life purpose in your human
design, we don't call it a chart anymore.

We call it the imprint.

Michael: Well, the, the chart is
the actual like visual structure.

Yeah.

The imprint is the
actual energetics of it.

Yeah.

'Cause we're working with
the energetics, not with the-

Audree: So we're working, we're work-
so we're working on, we, we've been

building the The script for this,
this process, which is, which is

why all this is probably coming up.

Michael: Oh, I, I...

Yeah, and this is part-
probably connected to that.

Yeah.

So I ran a funny experiment this morning-

Audree: Mm-hmm

Michael: where I asked my favorite
AI to say, "Well, can you please tell

me what, what parts of human design
are relevant for life purpose?"

Mm-hmm.

And it got it partly right.

Mm-hmm.

And it, it's confused about some of
the things and so on, and it- Well,

Audree: we all know that AI
is- Well- ... is kinda like a

teenager just learning about life

Michael: purpose.

Well, no, it, it has bad input,
like 'cause- Mm-hmm ... 'cause most

people don't have direct access
to Ra's knowledge and information.

Audree: Right.

Michael: And it's very, very-

Audree: So it's, it's making
it, it's making its, uh-

Michael: It's using generalized
information available on

the web or this or that

Audree: or- I know.

That's why AI-

Michael: Yeah.

Anyway, let me, let me finish

Audree: a whole other podcast

Michael: And then, uh, and then on
top of that, it can't really do the

analysis, so it doesn't really know
what it, what, what's important.

Mm-hmm.

And then it can't even really do
the analysis, and the data's just

junk, and it's just like it can't
really make sense of it 'cause it...

Like I, I know how to take an AI
through it, 'cause we can do it

step by step and area by area and
then add the new synthesis thing.

I know how to do that.

Right.

But what I really got is that there's
a beauty and a depth, and it's actually

human design only opens up as you move
further on your journey of consciousness.

So it's always good as you're evolving
in consciousness to keep revisiting it.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And the other thing
that I got, I mean, I listened

to so- like, so, like just these
short five-minute audios from Ra.

They're, they're incredible.

Like, and just the depth of what I
could hear today compared to the last

time I heard it maybe a year ago or
two years ago is just extraordinary.

It's just extraordinary.

And understanding this from the
depth of everything that we're doing.

Mm-hmm.

And most of his information- Mm-hmm

is speaking at a very advanced
metaphysical level of what it means, and

most people can't understand what he's
saying, like even, even in s- maybe just

the surface of it, because he's actually
speaking to the deep metaphysics of what

it means to be created on this planet.

And so because he's speaking these
deep metaphysical elements, a

lot of what he says is like just
goes woo over the head, you know?

Audree: Right.

Michael: And that's why people don't,
maybe don't wanna listen to him directly

'cause it almost sounds like gobbledygook.

Audree: That's what it was like
when I was in the beginning of TM

when I was listening to Maharishi.

I was like, "I don't understand
a word that he's saying."

Yeah.

Until I went deeper into the program,
and then all of a sudden I was like, "Oh,

I understand everything he's saying."

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: I could read his
books on quantum physics.

Michael: Yeah, so where I'm going with
this is that the only real way is to

understand, well, what are the key pieces?

I, I think this is what, this is what the-

Audree: That's what I was saying.

I was like, every ti- now, like,
it's like first when we did,

um, the way your brain perceives
things, the way it thinks- Mm-hmm

the way it sees things.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Um, it was like I was ready
for that, and then I was like, "Oh my

God, this makes so much sense," when
you ex- finally explained it to me.

Yeah.

And then I was like, "Wow."

And it was so pivotal
for my own evolution.

It was

Michael: a huge breakthrough.

I mean, there's no way to overcome the
ego without knowing how you see and think-

Audree: Yes

Michael: and the distortion
that happens around it.

Yeah,

Audree: yeah.

And it was an-

Michael: I mean, if you don't
even know that, you're done

... Audree: and then it was an accelerator
for me to catch when I was in distortion

and when I was in negative thinking.

Michael: Yeah, that was a
whole year for us, wasn't it?

Audree: Right?

Yeah.

Now we're going into life purpose.

Yeah.

And I think a- and
right now for me- It's a

Michael: good time for it

... Audree: I'm like, "Okay,
what does my Earth say?

What does my Sun say?

What does my Moon say?

Like, and how do I, and
where, where am I blocked?"

Yeah.

"And how can I open myself up?"

That's what I'm curious to know right now.

Yeah,

Michael: yeah.

Audree: So please tell me.

We,

Michael: we can, we can spend s-
well, it's really good if you, it's

really important that you listen
to the source material directly.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And I can walk, we
can, we can do it together.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Um, and I can walk you
through, like, what the pieces are.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: Yeah.

And y- you know, I think it's really
interesting that all the information

is there and available, and, you
know, it comes back to self-mastery.

It's like, "Oh, I don't wanna look
at all this human design stuff."

I

Audree: want

Michael: somebody

Audree: to do it for me.

"It's

Michael: so, it's so complicated.

Can

Audree: somebody..."

I want somebody

Michael: to do it for me.

Well, well, I, I-

Audree: I want you to do it for me.

Just tell me

... Michael: I, I, well, this is what
I, this is what I'm just saying

to you right now is I can't do...

I can give you, like,
kind of a Reader's Digest.

However-

Audree: Yeah, you're not-

Michael: I'm, I'm gonna say
something, actually Okay.

Just, just slow down.

Let me finish this one.

We're getting excited

What I'm saying is that there's
a power that you get over your

own d- being when you have the
realization of what it is yourself.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: And when you go through
the information, you don't know at a

detailed level, not someone else doing
this for you, you don't know when

in the next day, week, month, year
you'll get the epiphany because you

looked at that detailed information.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: So there's a, there's an
unlock that happens within the being

and the understanding of one ... I
mean, what's more important than

understanding your own being, folks?

So, so that's why I,
I'm really an advocate.

And so what I ... The other thing
I realized is evolutionary design.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: It's like if human design
is the physics or the chemistry, in-

evolutionary design is the engineering
application of that knowledge.

So it's really a, you know, applied
technology, whereas human design

is primarily a, a, just a science.

It's just a science and mechanics of
human creation, but it's not applied.

Right.

Or it's very minimally
applied through PHS and so on.

Audree: Maybe we should
call it applied human design

instead of evolutionary design.

Or evolutionary design is applied-

Michael: Yeah

... Audree: human design?

Michael: Yeah.

Or we'll call it
application toolkit, right?

It's really- It's an

Audree: application toolkit- Yeah,

Michael: it's really,

Audree: it's- ... for
unlocking human design.

Yeah.

Michael: It's like, it's like,
it's like, you know, you may have

physics, but you need engineering.

That was my, my other realization.

It's like, it's like the, it's
like the actual, the engineering

layer on top of the basic science.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: To, to ... So if you wanna
build a bridge, you need to understand

tension, you need to understand materials,
you need to do all this stuff, right?

That's what human design gives you,
but it doesn't give you the bridge

between your conditioned self and
your real self, your deeper self.

So

So yeah.

Audree: It's fascinating.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so that feels really good.

That feels alive in my system
to spend some time with you-

Mm-hmm ... going through that.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And you need to
listen to Ra directly.

No shortcuts here.

If you wanna take responsibility
for your incarnation.

Darn.

There's actually a,
there's actually a process.

There's actually a process of
integration and synthesis and

pieces, and then assembly.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Well, it's time

Michael: Yeah, for me as I, as like
the, the clarity comes in around

life purpose, everything just sort of
goes, "Oh, this makes so much sense.

Oh, this makes so much sense.

Oh, this feels so good."

Mm-hmm.

Like there's an aliveness.

Audree: It feels like...

So it's interesting, um, and
maybe we're, we're at time.

Michael: Isn't it?

45 minutes, so we can finish anytime now.

Yeah.

Audree: Um, I'll just, I'll just make a,
a little comment here, is that for years

and years and years, I was searching and
searching and searching for enlightenment

or connection or something that I didn't
even know that I was searching for.

And in one moment

I had an understanding of what mantra was

And in that moment

I understood that it was a direct
connection to source consciousness.

Michael: Mm.

Audree: And in this moment when I
had this insight or this epiphany

I stopped searching.

All my searching ended in
that, in that one moment

And now

I feel like, like our work, it's like
we, we changed the definition of our

work from y- corporate leadership
training to personal development and-

Michael: Back to corporate.

Audree: And I feel lost.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: I really feel lost.

Mm-hmm.

I feel like nothing's working.

I have no passion, no
desire, no motiv- motivation.

And I f- and I'm like, I feel like I'm
n- I'm not searching for enlightenment

anymore or connection to source.

Like, I got that.

Now I'm searching for,
I guess, application.

Searching for what is my purpose?

If it's n- nothing's coming easy, what
am I supposed to be doing with myself?

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And at the same
time, it's just like im- like

I have, I have no answers.

And it's funny because all of a sudden
we're back to human design again,

and we're looking at life purpose.

And truly, I can figure that out now.

All I- It's,

Michael: it's right there

... Audree: all I need to do is go to my chart
and study it, and eventually, I don't

know when the epiphany will come, but
I'm more open, I'm ready to do the work.

I'm, you know, there's, there's
things activating in my field.

I mean, especially because we're- Mm
... we're doing this transformational audio.

So there's an, there's an
activation process happening to

clear out whatever the blocks are.

And I just, I just feel like, okay,
I'm ready 'cause I wanna know.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And, and I'm like, I, I, I'm done
wasting my time on, on trying to do things

that my mind thinks I'm supposed to do.

Mm-hmm.

Or thinks, oh, I'm supposed
to help humanity this way,

or this is my life purpose.

Mm-hmm.

Or, you know, I had this idea in my head,
and so maybe, you know, maybe I'm supposed

to go, you know, be a chef, or I'm
supposed to open up a coffee shop- Mm-hmm

... or a antique store, or am I supposed to
be an interior designer or an artist, or

what am I supposed to do with my life?

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And it's in my human design chart.

So now I just wanna go and I wanna see-
Mm-hmm ... what that says, 'cause I wanna

open up, I wanna open up and explore
all the possibilities that are there.

If it's all there already, like
my life purpose was decided.

I d- I know that I somewhere in my being
decided exactly what I'm supposed to do.

Michael: Right.

And then through the mechanics of
creation, you erased that knowledge and

information to make this interesting.

Audree: Exactly.

What's also interesting is that
I did have an epiphany this

morning when I was in meditation-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: before we sat down for this.

And that was, um,

I went back or I was shown the dream
that I had when I was four years old-

Michael: Mm-hmm

Audree: where I was shown that
life was gonna be very difficult

for me, and then I was shown you.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: You know?

Um, and that's probably so I, I, I could
spend the next 10-- the past 10 years

of my life going, "Why are we together?

Oh, yeah, the dream.

Oh, why are we together?"

"Oh, yeah, the dream.

There's, you know, there's something
here, Audrey, pay attention."

But it was very interesting because what I
got today was that I w- I needed to spend

The past 60 years of my life, which is
so weird 'cause I feel like I'm only 25

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experiencing the distortions of
the egoic consciousness, the deep

self-hatred and the sabotage patterns.

Mm.

That's what I was shown this morning,
that I needed to live through that

To understand and feel the pain
and suffering and the damage

And of course, we are making
also that transformational audio

about s- you know, self-hatred.

Mm-hmm.

It was all starting, it all came together
this morning where I was like, "Oh

I needed to have those experiences

Like there was a profound
sense of like I've just been

in school for the past 60 years

Michael: Mm.

There's something similar
going on with, in my being.

So like, you know, my dad was commenting
on how my hair is turning white.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

I'm

Michael: like, he thinks it's stress.

Not stress, but anyway.

It's like, it's fine.

But what I was going is like, okay, well
how did I get to be like this age, right?

I'm a little bit younger than
you, but I don't know, whatever

year it is, 56, 57, whatever.

Audree: You're three years younger than

Michael: me.

Yeah.

So-

Audree: So you're 57?

You'll be 57.

Michael: I'm 56.

I'll be turning 57 this year.

Audree: Yeah?

Michael: I think so.

Audree: You're just a baby.

Michael: Am I 57?

I, I have to do the math.

I don't wanna do the math right now.

Anyway, so what I was going is like, well,
what happened to my whole life, right?

Like, where, like, my...

You know, what, what's...

Like, and it's like I'm just
seeing that this process of

evolution, this is what it took.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Like, it's not
like there could've been...

I mean, and, and that, that there's a
purpose to it, that if, oh, and this is

coming in right now as part of my design.

It's my stage of life is for
deeply, deeply experiential.

Deeply experiential and going
through the experiential process.

And the other aspect is to bring
this work out to the world.

I had to start from this really messed
up state, so I can go, "Well, if

you start in this messed up state,
here's how you get out of it."

And so those two together, l- you
know, my, my stage of life is, you

know, from, from conflict to crisis.

I'm the ga- and this is what I'm in now.

I'm over 42, I'm the gate of crisis.

You know?

And so-

Audree: But crisis isn't like-

Michael: Well, this is what
I realized is it's actually-

Audree: It's a

Michael: furnace ... a, a deeply
experiential process- Mm-hmm ... of

the deep meaning of life.

That's what I got when I
listened to this yesterday.

And so that's what...

And I go, "Oh my gosh, this is what's been
going on my whole life," is this deeply

experiential pro- It's happening even
now, this deeply experiential process.

And so, so that there's a, there's
this understanding with my being.

It's like, you know, you know, you know
what part of me is saying, "Oh, well,

geez, you know, what happened to my life?

Da, da, da."

And I'm looking at it going,
"Well, like, who are you?

What are you?"

And it's, it's not me.

It's, it's some deviated structure
from the ego consciousness.

Because when we're in the truth of
what and who we are, we understand

that everything is actually perfect.

And at the same time, there's this
paradox of, well, you know, there

are these deviated light codes and
patterns operating here within our

own being or outside of ourselves,
and we, we just let them go.

I mean, it's not a big deal.

It's just, "Oh, I don't want this anymore.

I'm gonna choose something else."

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

All right, should we close?

Anything else?

We're at time time.

Mm-mm.

Audree: Sorry.

I have nothing more to say.

Michael: Okay, let's just take three
minutes for your two mantra, connecting

you to the truth of who you are

Thank you for joining us.

Let's be evolutionary