B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So it started, uh, in the night.

This awareness of the mind itself has
been, it's been growing and coming in.

But this place of ... It seemed to
unfold like this, like this mind saying,

"Hey, why don't we go do this thing?"

And I'm like, "Okay."

And the pause, and like,
"What's that about?"

And then feeling into the
disturbance behind it.

And then, okay, well that, you know,
oop, that's a kind of a non-starter.

I'm not gonna act from disturbance.

And then it just all starts dissolving,
and I'm going, "Well, like, what's,

what's really going on here?"

Actually, it started even before that.

It's ... I was, I was, uh, doing our, our
advanced grounding, and like, everything

felt very strange and, and separate.

It didn't feel like the normal thing that
I experience of just really anchoring

and then stabilizing when I ground.

Wasn't happening.

Every ... Like, nothing was happening.

Like, and I'm like, "Oh,
okay, this is really weird."

And then, then I had this experience,
and then I'm like ... I realized I was in

this state where I was as awareness just
observing the f- the function of the mind.

So that's why the grounding didn't
work, 'cause I was already, I was

already in state but didn't realize it.

Audree: Well, it's interesting,
'cause the grounding is for the mind.

Michael: Yeah.

Yes.

So ... Yeah, so it's, it's, it was very
strange, a very strange experience.

'Cause I, like I ... Uh, anyway.

Audree: Wait.

Can you just describe the
awareness of awareness part?

'Cause that's ... Awareness,
that's like ... That is ... I'm

having a déjà vu right now.

Michael: Oh, that's so good.

Audree: Like a real, "I
had a dream about this."

So awareness of awareness, that
awareness is awareness of source

consciousness observing existence, and
its existence as you, like as, you know,

Michael incarnated in physical form.

Michael: Right.

So we're just-

Audree: What does that feel like?

Michael: This expansive stillness.

Audree: What else?

Just words, one word

Michael: Peace

Audree: And?

Michael: Open.

Expansive

Audree: Let it sink deeper into your body

Michael: Well, it's the M- Muji line of,
you know, never born, never died, right?

You know, he has that whole s-
lovely script he takes, he used to

kind of enumerate the qualities.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: But what's r- alive in
me right now with this experience

is it's a sense of okayness.

You know, some people use the word
invulnerability, but there's like

a ... Like, it's like I'm okay.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: Like, there's just a
profound sense of everything's just

peachy, and then s- the mind
comes in and says, "Oh, we gotta

go do this thing," and I'm going
like, "Well, what's up with that?"

And then we get into like, okay,
there's some sort of disturbance

there, which is taking me out of
that place of just everything's okay.

It's trying to take me into,
"Hey, things aren't okay.

We need to take action.

We gotta get this thing done."

Like the, you know, the crazies
we have inside of ourselves.

Audree: Right.

The distraction.

Michael: Yeah, the distraction.

The we gotta do this thing to achieve, or
we gotta do this thing to keep ourselves

safe, or we gotta ... And so, so anyway,
so what was going on in that moment

was this happened I think a couple of
times, and then suddenly there was an

awareness of the mind itself, and then
so much love for the mind and, and this

realization that what we're doing is
we're bringing the mind back to wholeness.

And it's like this re-parenting thing,
where as awareness we're just being

with the mind, so it can have its
temper tantrum and, you know, get its,

whatever it wants to work through out.

Audree: Temper tantrum.

Michael: Yeah.

And so, so it's not about getting rid
of the egoic ... I think we said this on

our, our call with our level two class.

We said it

Audree: yesterday.

We- Yeah ... a big process
happened yesterday.

Michael: Yeah.

The, um ... With the class,
though, you said this- Yes ... is

that we're not trying to get
rid of the egoic consciousness.

We're purifying it.

This what became so clear in this
moment- Mm ... is, oh, every time we're

using these tools, these practices,
there's a purification of the mind.

We're bringing the mind back to purity.

So the whole discussion- And when

Audree: we say mind, we say
that's egoic consciousness.

Well- It's all one thing

... Michael: this is what I wanted to share,
is the, the realization, is that it's

not that- The egoic consciousness is
turning into creator consciousness,

or the creator conscious is the
substrate that's there right now that

the egoic consciousness is covering.

I mean, those are, those are
conceptual models that are true, but

what I was experiencing this moment
is, oh, well, it's just one thing.

It's the egoic consciousness and the
creator conscious together as one

thing- Mm-hmm ... which we can call
the mind, and we're purifying the

mind so it's less egoic consciousness,
more creator consciousness, which

is what the whole journey is about.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: That was the realization.

Oh, we're just purifying our mind.

And, and when I said, so I was saying,
"Oh, we're just purifying our mind,"

and then everything else just came in.

Oh, well, the mind is
connected with the energetics.

The mind is connected with the-
Yes ... the physiology, the brain

chemistry, the, the chemicals in
the body, the addictive patterns.

Yes.

It's connected with everything.

And so we can't free the mind
without freeing the body,

without freeing the energetics.

Mm-hmm.

Without freeing...

I don't know where the Akashic
fits in, the, the choices.

It's really the mind's
relationship with those choices.

That's actually what we're changing.

Mm-hmm.

What's happened has happened.

It's there in the records.

There's nothing to, to fix or
correct or change around that.

It's to change our relationship
with it so that we're okay with it.

Audree: The perspective.

Michael: The perspective.

So what we're doing essentially,
as awareness, as this purity of

consciousness, we're using that...

This is why awareness is the
primary mechanism of consciousness.

I'm starting to get everything right now.

This is why awareness is the primary
mechanism of consciousness, is

because we're using that awareness

to act as a corrective signal for the
mind to let go of the things that are

out of balance, out of disturbance.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: And so this is where I
see, like, this, this really, this

huge tipping point of the last,
I don't know, few months for us.

It's been going on for longer, but
getting to a place where we're okay with

whatever's going on within our being,
whatever's going on with our thoughts,

with our emotions, with our physiology.

And this is a tough one for people.

You know, we have some of our students,
you know, that, you know, some of

them have, you know, are sick and
they're off, and, you know, the, you

know, stuff like that's happening,
and there's a resistance to it.

Like, "Oh, I wanna be better.

If this, you know...

If I'm using these, you know,
tools of evolution correctly,

I'm just gonna be healthy."

And then it's like, well, you know,
no, your body may need rest, you know?

Audree: Right.

And if you're not gonna give your body
rest, it's gonna give it to you- Right

... by making you sick or having an injury.

Michael: Right.

So- The, the reframe of all that I'm
just getting right now is if you are

getting sick, if you have injuries that
are disabling you, it's because you

are not listening to your own system.

If you'd listen to your own system
and given yourself the rest you

needed, your body wouldn't be taking
over and f- forcing you to have rest.

Mm-hmm.

So if you have forced rest, you
know, you can look back and see

where was my body trying to tell me?

Where was I not listening?

Where do I need to make
amends with my own being-

Audree: Mm

Michael: to give it
the rest that it needs?

And, and getting better doesn't
mean you've made amends.

Getting better just means that,
you know, whatever emergency repair

needed to happen, but doesn't mean
you fixed the, the root problem.

It doesn't mean, you know,
it's not gonna recur.

It just means that, you know, the whatever
emergency fix is done, but the, the, the

proper work of, of solving the problem
of, of doing more than an emergency

fix so you can carry on with your life
is what's still missing in your life.

So if you're, you're sick or disabled,
like, what's going on behind that?

Why?

Like, where are you not
listening to your own being?

Audree: Remember when I was rushing
around the house trying to get

it ready for people to come over?

Every time, not every time,
but, uh, two big times-

Michael: Yeah

... Audree: where I just, I get a little crazy
because I want the house to be perfect.

You used

Michael: to get so crazy.

Audree: And, you know, I gotta put
the towels in the bathroom- Like a mad

woman ... make sure the bathrooms are
clean and tidy and the rooms look good.

And, and I get, like, really,
I do, I get tight and crazy.

Michael: Yeah, I just, I just gotta, I,
we, I used to just get, avoid you when

you were doing that, the craziness.

Audree: And- And we don't have, right now
we don't have any carpet on our stairs.

And if I, I'm, I was moving too
fast and I fell down five s-

Michael: Well, the story is
you were moving too fast.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: The energetic story is your body
said, "Hey, you need to take a rest now."

Audree: Well, you s- have
to stop acting crazy.

Michael: Yeah.

You gotta stop doing this madness.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Yeah, and, and-

Michael: And so what did your body do-

Audree: Oh, I-

... Michael: to enforce that?

Audree: I fell down five, five stairs.

I missed five stairs.

I thought I was stepping on the, onto
the landing, and it was actually five

stairs later, and I, I broke my hip.

Remember?

I couldn't move-

Michael: I remember that

... Audree: for eight hours.

Michael: Uh-huh.

Audree: I couldn't walk.

You had to help me go to the bathroom.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And I, I just laid
in bed and I healed myself

'cause I was like, "I can't..."

This is my fa- my famous story.

I can't go to the hospital because
people are coming to visit.

Yeah.

And then it happened again.

It was interesting.

It was also five stairs, but
this time it was just the corner.

The stairs turn- And they get
really narrow and I, and I wasn't

holding onto the railings both times

' Michael: Cause you were
carrying too much stuff

' Audree: Cause I was carrying
too much stuff 'Cause

Michael: you were rushing and crazy.

Audree: Anyways,

I wanna go back to

I wanna go back to something that
we taught yesterday in the class,

too, was taking full responsibility-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: for our lives, and what does
that mean, and how difficult that is.

And how powerful that
is all at the same time.

Mm.

When you fully understand and can
comprehend that it's you that's creating

whatever's going on in your life,

it allows you to be empowered

to make a choice to change it because
you stop being a victim to your own self.

And it's uncomfortable in the beginning.

Michael: Well, it's uncomfortable
'cause you're experiencing the

disturbance in your being that's
causing you to externalize and

project- Right ... the blame or the
judgment or the self-victimization.

Audree: Well, like wh- when we tell our
students, you know, if you keep doing

the practices, you keep doing, using
the tools and techniques over and over

and over, you just get oka- you get
comfortable with the uncomfortable.

It's just like, "Oh, this
feels like shit," but you

just, you breathe through it.

Sometimes it takes longer.

Sometimes you wake up in
the middle of the night.

Sometimes you're just sitting
here like I am right now, and

it's a little uncomfortable.

And at the same time, you know what's
really interesting that I noticed?

Even when the heart is opening and
you're not processing something,

you know, which you would deem
negative or judging it as bad,

but even if you notice those moments
where your heart opens, it's like

using a new muscle for the first time.

It's like your whole
entire being is opening-

And vibrating at a higher
vibrational frequency, your

physical body needs to adjust to
it, so it does feel uncomfortable.

So it's not necessarily that all those
uncomfortable moments is, you know,

processing, you know, a, a trigger or an
emotional charge or something like that.

It could just be that your body
is opening to this new energy or

this higher vibrational frequency.

The other point that I wanted to go back
to, 'cause I think this is very important

is

the fallacy with the s- the psychology
industry, that whole body of knowledge.

Because it's trying to get rid
of the egoic consciousness or

it's saying that the ego is bad.

And when you believe that
and function in that theory,

you will always hit resistance, and
the healing will never truly happen.

The transformation will never occur.

'Cause what you s- resist must persist.

It's ... That's like a,
a law of the universe.

And I think you said it beautifully,
that the egoic consciousness and creator

consciousness, it's just the same thing.

Michael: It's just the mind.

Yeah.

It's just what we experience as
our mind, having our thoughts.

Audree: And all-

Michael: And we're just purifying
the other low frequency ones.

Audree: Right.

That's it.

And there's just a shift in perception.

That's all.

It's so simple when you think about it.

It's like, oh my ... It's so simple.

Michael: Well, h- h- hold on.

This ... I mean, it's, it's not
s- ... I mean, it's not ... It's very

complex because this is only possible
because we've been in this training

program for months, year, over a year
to- Years ... establish ourselves.

Years, y- d- decades, whatever, um,
this phase of it I'm speaking to, this

specific phase of establishing ourselves
in the is-ness, in the awareness as our

primary mechanism of, of functioning so
that we're operating from our state of

being instead of operating from the mind
primarily And so when there's this kind

of a capacity which we've had within
our being to operate from an awareness

perspective, where when, with that
awareness perspective, we're in communion

with the aspect of the mind that is a
creator consciousness, and moving from

that place with spontaneous action, and
having those increasing percentage of

experiences, let's say for a day, versus
being just kind of, you know, f- kind of

forgetting and going back to the egoic
mind and operating from that place, right?

So it's kinda like this...

I- I mean, it's like the
whole process, right?

It's this, this titration process, as
you can say this from a, you know, a

chemistry perspective, of, you know,
moving from 100% egoic consciousness

to slowly whittling that down to
having- Mm-hmm ... these little spaces.

But what's really been happening in
this last, uh, arc, which has been

a few months, is really establishing
ourselves as a primary way of being

throughout our day in, in, in the
is-ness, in the awareness, in the

creator consciousness as, as a, as kinda
like, kind of establishing, like, this

little beachhead in a different way.

And that, that beachhead's been
growing and growing and growing.

And so what's happened now is there's
been this tipping point where now that,

that kinda beachhead has stabilized
so it can look back and say, "Hey, you

know, this is what's going on now."

And so there's been a, kind
of a reversal of roles.

That's what I experienced, where it's
not the mind, you know, kinda going

back and forth between the mind and
y- in egoic conscious mode, the mind

in creator conscious mode, going,
you know, going back and forth,

but just really stabilizing the
creator consciousness aspect of pure

awareness as source consciousness.

And then from that place,
a- experiencing the mind.

And that's the journey.

Audree: So that state of what you
describe as awareness of awareness-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: people call that
unity consciousness.

Except that that's not
the correct name for it.

Michael: Well, this is where...

So w- I can, I can only describe
what I've been experiencing in my

being, which is there are moments of
experiencing oneness with everything-

Audree: Mm-hmm

... Michael: of a connectedness to everything.

Like, I had a moment where I think
I was touching your back, and

it's like, oh, we're one being.

It's like it was just this
spontaneous awareness.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And then there was so much
love for my own being, so much love

for your being, and it was just,
like, this spontaneous moment.

And what I think is the ... People
are trying to g- You know, people

are describing the end state, the
end way of functioning, or the end

situation, which is not what the
work of real evolution in our, in the

tradition we're getting from the Shi-

Audree: That's what I was getting

Michael: at

is about, is that it's, it's a, an
evolutionary process where, where it

starts with a first an experience,
and then it builds, and then it

stabilizes, and then there's a, a tipping
point, and then everything changes.

And the thing is that this happens
in stages, and it's multiple

stages happening simultaneously
or m- multiple parallel threads of

evolution happening simultaneously.

Mm.

So it's not like, oh, I just
need to spend time in unity

consciousness and I'll be there.

You know, oh, I had this amazing
experience, I just wanna get back to it.

Well, the way to get
back to it, you know...

It's, it's like this, like s-
let's imagine, you know, y-

when we think about this like a
getting to the top of a mountain.

Let's imagine you have some, you
know, transcendental experience

of being on top of the mountain.

Well, that's wonderful, but then
you have to walk up the path.

Audree: What I'm trying to say is
that there's a lot of teachings out

there that talk about there's, you
know, unity consciousness, there's

God realization, there's cosmic
consciousness, there's all these-

Michael: Flavors and-

... Audree: flavors and different levels
of consciousness, and that's not true.

It, it's blatantly not true
because then you're in separation

again, and you're continuously
in some sort of separated state

where the purity of awareness of awareness

is it's just, you're just one thing.

Michael: Yeah, so if I think

Audree: about- There might be
different experiences- ... but th-

they're all of the same consciousness.

There is no separated consciousness.

I mean, and even talking about
consciousness reaching a s-

a certain stage or a level
doesn't even make sense to me.

Michael: Well, so I'm thinking about
one tradition, I'm not gonna name it.

Um, and you know, when I feel into
it, structurally it's correct,

but practically it has no value.

And what I mean by that is structurally
it's correct, it, it's, it's actually

describing that there's these unfolding
states of awareness, which is correct.

But practically that's not relevant
because that information is

useless to people because it's more
about how do I get there, right?

And I think that's where the, you know,
that's kinda where I'd, if I'd say I

had a- A, a bone to pick with them,
that's where I'd, I'd kinda flag that.

That's kind of, in some ways, doing a
disservice, 'cause there's no point.

You know, if people, you know ... Anyway

Audree: Well, then you're
still engaging the mind-

Yeah ... to try to get somewhere.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And cosmic awareness
is just being in the whole of

creation, of this universe.

It's not even the rest of the universe.

Mm.

It's like ... I don't know, it just,
it just seems kind of like, um, maybe

sophomoric or something, just not like
this really bizarre way of thinking

about things that feels super separated.

Michael: Mm.

Oh, there's something else that happened.

I don't know if you're ready to move on.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: The other thing that came in was

And this has been deepening and
deepening, this balance between

the masculine and feminine.

And so what I was getting in
this morning was like, oh,

oh, this imbalance of the masculine
and feminine with inside of ourselves

is just being projected outside.

Audree: Are you just getting that now?

Michael: Well, sort of ... I'm
getting it at a deeper level.

Just, it's a journey.

Just k-

Just remember the teaching.

Audree: Sorry.

If

Michael: I'm more precise, it'd be
seeing the specific mechanisms of

how it was operating, and having a
direct visceral experience of it at

a deeper level than I've ever had.

Audree: I know, I'm just teasing you.

Michael: I know.

Well, I'm cl- I'm cl- I'm be- I'm being
clarifying what I'm saying here, so.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, you know, if you just describe
the basic way I did it as kind of

Audree: sophomoric.

Well,

Michael: it comes in layers.

Yeah.

Okay.

So, so what I was experiencing is,
is the, the lack within my own being.

And it's not the first time I've
come here, but this happened at a,

a much deeper layer of dissolving
this boundary of the masculine

aspect of my being looking after
the feminine aspect of my being,

and nurturing it, and caring for it.

Mm-hmm.

And the feminine aspect of
my being nurturing and caring

for the masculine aspect.

And then so there was
this profound healing of-

Audree: Mm

... Michael: my own being functioning closer
to the intention of how it's designed.

And then in that moment, there was a
flash of, "Oh, well, that's why people

are seeing, oh, I need this, you
know, this thing outside of myself.

I need this person to give me
the structure, the stability, or

I need someone to give me the,
you know, the creativity and

the openness or the whatever."

Right?

Or,

or really just any, almost any aspect of
life we can p- put, put into this frame.

Even I need the str- somebody to give
me the structure outside of myself.

We're capable of giving
ourselves our own structure.

We're capable of giving ourselves our own
inspiration and creativity and passion.

Like, it's all within us.

And what I saw in this moment is
that it- it's a completely orthogonal

dimension to, let's say, human
design or other aspects of creation.

I

Audree: was gonna ask
you about human design.

Michael: Yeah, it's a...

And so this is what, this is
what I immediately felt into.

Mm-hmm.

And, and like, I, it's like, you know,
I like to say that human design is

m- maybe 30% of your incarnational
makeup, but it's not the whole thing.

Audree: No, because you ha-
you'll have to transcend it.

Not have to, but you do transcend it
because the, the, the incarnational

des- the ch- the, the...

Michael: It's not that you transcend it.

Well, y- yes and no.

Well- Maybe you're saying the
same thing that I'm going to say

... Audree: I think what happens is that
you, you begin to realize that it's,

it's just a, an incarnational structure
for you to experience l- life in,

in this, in this physical reality.

And that at some point, when it, when
in those states of transcendence, you

move beyond those structures, and you
d- and you, you, you would ended up

healing them and, and not abiding by
those structures anymore, or the laws

of the, of the chart, so to speak.

Michael: I'd say it very differently.

Okay.

Audree: So maybe we're gonna- This

Michael: is why there's two of us here

maybe we're gonna learn something here.

So, um, maybe I'm missing something.

So what I'm experiencing,

what I'm experiencing

within my own being is not a, a, a,
let's just talk at the first level,

is not a transcending of human design.

It's an, it's a, it's, um,
it's a purification of my

ability to live my design.

So as I'm purifying, my, my purifying,
part of that is m- my purifying out of

the distortions that operate in my design.

Like, so my design is how I'm supposed to
function, and the way we're conditioned,

we're, there are all sorts of distortions
on how we're supposed to function.

So there's a purification of that so
that- There's a correct operation of

this incarnational structure, the element
that's human design, that's coming alive.

So suddenly, like, I'm coming alive to how
I'm designed to be as an incarnation, and

at the same time, there's a transcendent
aspect, which is that's not who I am.

I am the I am.

I am this aspect of pure
awareness that's never been born,

invulnerable, that's an awareness
of everything and is in total peace.

And so that's where, that's where...

So th- there's a, there's a, a
change of relationship with the

incarnational structure, but that
incarnational structure is still

what's governing this physiology.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

What I, I feel like when you're in that,
that, m- the awareness of awareness-

Yes ... your source consciousness- Yes

or you could call it the I am
presence, or you can call it spacious

presence, you can call it a million,
unity consciousness, a million

different names for the same thing-

Mm-hmm ... is that you're no
longer resisting the design

that you were born into.

Michael: Right.

Then your design is just beautiful.

Audree: It is, yeah.

That's

Michael: the only way your design
can be beautiful, otherwise-

Audree: And then, and then

Michael: you're- ... as ego
consciousness, you're gonna judge it

... Audree: and you're in flow with it,
because you know it was, th- your

design is created before you're born.

It's like you choose that, that
design yourself, so why would

you be in resistance to it?

That's what I'm getting.

Michael: Well, structurally what happens
is, is you're floating around, and you

know what you wanna incarnate as and do
and what you wanna be like, and you're

waiting for the right situation, you know,
the genetic situation, the, the, the, the

timing situation, to be born, conceived,
so you are born at that exact moment

to give you the design that you want.

Audree: Well, it's m- well, it's more,
way more complicated than that, but it's-

Michael: Yeah

... Audree: it's a good, it's a good start.

And what I love about human design is
that it takes some of the guesswork

out of- ... why am I here, what am
I supposed, what's my purpose in

life, what am I supposed to be doing?

It also, um, really validates some of the
things that you, some of the qualities

that you have or that you, something that
you love about certain ways of being or

how you function, and it normalizes it in
your system so you can start the journey

of acceptance and flow and self-love.

Michael: Right.

And so this is where it's interesting.

Human design as a technology
is pure knowledge, really

alm- almost pure knowledge.

Mm-hmm.

It's very little application toolkit of,
okay, well, this is how you operationalize

it, this is how you utilize it, and so on.

And then the, the, the revelation or
the creation of evolutionary design

is that, wait a second- We, the
knowledge alone is not sufficient.

And the challenge with the knowledge
is from an egoic consciousness

perspective, there's a distortion
of, well, the human design uses

defensive mech and to say, "Well,
this is, I behave this way because X.

I behave this way 'cause it's my design."

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And while there's a truth in it-

Audree: I was talking on the other side.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Yeah, so.

Michael: Oh, I see what you mean.

You mean you want to
sort of past all that.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: But I, I think that's where I
think that human design is actually of,

of almost no value without evolutionary
design, without the ability to actually

bring it to life and use it as a roadmap
to see where am I not living my design.

'Cause if we use it as the
roadmap, this is the tie in.

Mm-hmm.

If you use the roadmap to see where
am I not living design, it actually

is giving us the precision path
of purification to become the,

move to the truth of who we are.

Audree: Not just a precision path,
an accelerated path, because it

takes the guesswork out of the
places that you have to work.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Like, that's why you created
evolutionary design, is what we

did was we linked in our work into
human design, 'cause we saw where,

where human design stopped because
there was no application of it.

Michael: Or limited,

Audree: it's probably-
Or it was very limited.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And so, right.

There's the ability to use human design,
your chart, to immediately start to

identify where do I need the work?

Where, what do I need to clear?

What do I need healing
and transformation in?

Well,

Michael: it's more than that.

And then all these processes
came out for giving people the

energetic process to start clearing
centers and- Mm-hmm ... clearing.

And we haven't even fully
implemented all that.

Oh, yeah.

We only just started that with
some of our students 'cause that,

we haven't run that program fully
yet, so excited when we do that.

Audree: I know.

I just realized that there's
all those transformational

audios to start to record.

Michael: Which ones?

Audree: Which we need to record
before we close the studio down- Which

Michael: one?

... Audree: and move.

Clearing the, the blocks and the,
and the gates, and the channels.

Michael: Oh, I forgot about that one.

Okay, I'll make a note.

Yeah.

Audree: Yeah, we need to do those.

Michael: Yeah, there's just so much
knowledge coming in, it's ridiculous.

Audree: I know.

Well, it came in a long time ago
when we stopped everything to kinda

work on our own, our own evolution.

Michael: So there was a,
there's the human design audio.

Audree: There's, like, two
or, two or three of them.

I think there's getting into the flow.

Well, now we're having a business meeting.

Michael: Well, the people may have
input on what they wanna get, but,

you know, maybe for our listeners.

Audree: Oh, don't forget we
have the daffodil party today.

It starts at 4:00.

Michael: I was gonna ask you
about when it, which day it

was- I wanted- And when it was

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: It's today.

Michael: Very good.

Audree: It's 4:00 to 7:00.

Well, it's a

Michael: good thing I shaved.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: It's almost like I knew.

Oh, that's exciting.

We're gonna be back in the studio.

Those are always fun.

Audree: Yeah, well-

Michael: Because those are
energetically really intense.

Audree: I just wanted to say that
we need to make, make a list of

what we need to record because-

Michael: Okay.

Well, let's do that later

... Audree: we're shutting down the
studio when we move, so- Yeah

um, we need to get that stuff.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

Audree: I like our work.

Michael: Yesterday was tough, though.

Like, both of us, we felt like our
bodies were burning from the inside.

It's like we were ... Like, for, like,
it just, like ... That was, like-

Audree: Well, it has to happen

Michael: that way ... extraordinarily
uncomfortable, right?

And even with all the
tools of, like, everything.

And the other thing is, I mean, this
is kinda like going back to the, the

You know, if you're sick and your
body needs rest, I mean, if your

body is burning out and purifying,
and there's a physical discomfort

with it, then that's what's going on.

Audree: Talk amongst yourselves.

Michael: Oh, I see.

I think Adi- I think Adi's
taking a bathroom break.

Okay.

Um, so, you, you know, like,
you know, here's the deal.

Oh, I saw this even in research.

I was ... I'm doing a lot of
research on how our work fits in

with all of science, basically.

It was really, really good.

But there was one paper which said,
"Oh, well, when you do these things..."

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So when, when people do, um, psilocybin,
then they can have, uh, awarenesses

of behavior patterns that actually
cause problems in their life if they

don't have the integrative tools.

And then I was like,
"Okay, well, well, yeah."

No kidding, because the, the, the,
the technology is doing its work

of bringing things into awareness.

We had a whole discussion about
ayahuasca and other, other, other,

uh, pharmaceutical approaches to
augmenting awareness, which we do not

recommend, um, because you actually
need to have the self-mastery.

So, you know, it may seem like a win in
the short run, but it, well, it doesn't

get you around what you need to do.

Um, so- So it was saying, oh, you
know, it's actually problematic

because it, it can destabilize people.

And the whole point is, well,
wait a minute, from the, the,

the evidence or proof perspective
that it's working, this is gold.

It means it's working so well that
it's triggered a transformational

process of awareness that is unraveling
the, the limiting structures.

And so this is where I'm
like, "Okay, wait a second."

This is what I see going on, is that with,
with science, it's like they have these,

these medical findings, and then the-
there are these interpretation layers that

are thrown on from the egoic consciousness
of tradition, of distortion, where the

science is, is trapped and bound through
its own interpretive lens of distortion.

So what I'm looking at is like,
how do we liberate science?

What is the, the sequence of events
that's needed so that science can be used

the own sci- its own scientific data?

Not, not let go of science.

I mean, we need science.

To, you know, how do we, um...

Or how do I, 'cause there's
no one else to do this.

Um, and, you know, how do I do
this in collaboration with others?

How, how do I approach
changing all of science?

This is actually-- Okay,
I'll, I'll reveal it.

This is my, one of my goals.

This is one of my goals or, or
missions here on this planet, is to

change how all of science functions.

And so what I see happening right
now is there's an immense amount of

interest, effort, investment, activity
going on, and I see it in chains.

And what these chains are, are these
mistaken assumptions, these mistaken

assumptions of what is going on.

And I'll give you, like, a very concrete
example of the, the neuroscience, the

neurophysiology that I'm talking about to
very practically ground everything we've

been talking about in a science context.

And I'm, I'm gonna share what's,
what's already known, so I'm not

gonna-- I'm just gonna give the, the
reframing, um, that hasn't landed in

the scientific community yet fully.

So there's something that someone
said is like, "Hey, wait a second.

We're o- we're watching
people's brains using functional

magnetic resonance imaging."

So they're seeing where the blood
flow goes in the brains, and they

can measure it, and, you know, it's
quite a, quite a good technique.

And they're going and they say,
"Well, we ask people to do tasks.

The blood goes here, and
this brain's active, and...

But, you know, we notice something.

When people aren't doing
tasks, there's this other part

of the brain that's active."

And so what happened is a
long time ago, somebody called

this the default mode network.

So when you're not doing a task,
your brain is in its default state.

But guess what?

What is your, like think about this.

If you're not doing a task,
what does your brain do?

Nothing.

Why is your brain active?

And what's active within your
brain is the ego consciousness.

It is this self-referential I thought
thinking all these thoughts, which

tend to be negative by the way.

That's the default mode of a human being.

It's not the default network.

It's default mode of a human being is
the ego consciousness looping, thinking

I thoughts, what about this, how will
this impact me, worrying about that.

Like, it's generating all this mental
chatter, wasting all this scarce

resource of the ability to think.

All the, all the energy being used
up by this, I mean, it's a ridiculous

waste of time, is the ego consciousness.

And it's centered- It

Audree: actually draws energy
from the body because the

body feeds the brain first.

Michael: Yeah.

And so, so, so I'm looking at all this,
and you know, and I, and I only just

discovered this yesterday, I thought
I was the only one who noticed this,

there's somebody else who proposed we
can't call this default mode network.

This is the aspect of the brain
that's focused on self-referential

processing or I, ego consciousness.

And so that's what's going on.

And so b- b- everyone has been trapped
in this metaphor of calling it the

default mode network and assuming that
it's just somehow this default mode

of operation that everyone can do.

And because they think it's a default
mode, they're not looking at it as a,

as, you know, how do we address this?

They don't even know what it's
for, so they can't even begin

to look at the actual data.

There's actual scientific data showing
how to address this, how to work

through it, how to shift it, how to...

And they have all the science, all the
data there, but everything's locked

under these layers of misinterpretation.

So what I...

And this is just one area.

I can go across all of psychology.

I can go across all of organizational
development and leadership and everything.

And what I've, I've do- So I've been
working on this for like, I don't know,

like a week or two now, so I know a lot.

Audree: This part?

This part.

I mean, you've been working for
like, uh, like two months now,

Michael: but- No, no, no, no.

That, but I was doing the, the research
on the, the biomedical direct application.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I, I mean, in looking at just p-

Audree: Just purely this.

Yeah.

Michael: Actually

Audree: it was- It's only been a week

... Michael: is, i- y- yeah.

So it's-

Audree: I think

... Michael: maybe a week,
two weeks, I don't know.

Anyway, so, so what I've discovered,
and this is the, what I got as like part

of like, okay, well, this is part of my
mission here, is that we need to change

science in order to unlock society because
society is so deeply bound in science.

Like in our teaching, we say, "Look,
you know, part of what you need to do

is let go of science 'cause science is
so limited in how it understands things,

and just trust your direct experience."

That's true from a phenomenal, logical,
individual evolution perspective.

But for the evolution of our whole human
collective, we need to reclaim science.

Audree: Science has a lockdown- On-

Michael: You're feeling this,

Audree: right?

On, yeah, on humanity, period.

Michael: Wait, and, and-

Audree: It has a huge lockdown because
it stops archeologists from, from, uh,

doing any kind of exploratory work on
sacred sites- Okay ... in, in places

around the earth where they, they find
technologies and evidence of s- things

that they can't explain or- Mm-hmm

things that would change
the history of humanity.

They block it.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: They block science in
the medical community, saying,

"Your body can't heal itself.

You need medicine."

Michael: Right, and if you go- Like-
If you go back to our teaching- I

mean- ... the, the, the core problem is
the scientists do not actually practice or

know about unlearning or about expanding
their belief systems, and they're

very, very deeply trapped in tradition.

And so that's okay.

I'm not worried about that.

What I am focused on is the, that
science understands what it means to

be to human be- to be a human being
and has, and this is the secret.

Once science can measure the
disturbance and has a label

for it, the industry changes.

That's what I learned through the history
of scientific research and what's changed.

So what I see here is that, and this
is what I'm working on, is there's

some very specific levers that can
be pulled to reframe the scientific

understanding and discussion of key
research areas of human functioning

so that we move from- I'm gonna

Audree: stop you

Michael: now ... misinterpretation.

Audree: Before you go too far.

Michael: Go.

Audree: 'Cause you're getting excited.

Michael: Yeah.

Oh, there's so much possibility here.

Audree: Yeah, and we're
gonna leave it at that.

Michael: We'll leave it at that.

I think what's going on for me is that
I've got the, the, the incarnation cross

of planning, so I can see, oh, okay,
well, this is how it all can happen

and how it will happen.

Audree: I understand that.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And there's, you know,
specific things that you-

Michael: Yeah

... Audree: can't discuss.

Michael: There are many things
that I don't wanna talk about here.

Audree: Yeah, and you'll go too far.

You have a, a- Well,

Michael: I think I was g- I was getting
to the point where I was complete.

Audree: Okay, good.

You know what?

So we're

Michael: feeling the same thing.

Audree: But that reminds me of something,
when you said the gate of planning.

So in human design-

Michael: No, the cross of planning

... Audree: the cross of planning.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Today, it's officially over.

Michael: No, no, no,
no, no, it's, it's 2027.

Audree: It's starting today because
Uranus is going into Uranus.

Michael: Planet U.

Audree: Oh, it was a
Beavis and Butthead moment.

Um, planet U- ... is
transitioning into Gemini today.

Okay.

It's today There's some other things
that we've been working on with

the planet, you,

because it's been functioning in a
distorted mode for a very long time.

And it's going, it's righting itself
right now back into alignment with the

energetic structures of the solar system.

There's some big shit happening today.

So

Michael: just like at a individual
human level, there's a purification

of the deviation, there's a
purification at the solar system level-

Audree: Right

... Michael: that's getting-

Audree: Because the-

... Michael: manifested

Audree: through planet
Earth ... the planetary alignments

have been out of balance.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Excuse me.

To support the deviated structures.

Because we are, whether you believe in,
in astrology or not, you can understand it

from a scientific point of view that the,
the energetic structures or the nature of

the planets in our solar system
do have impact on our being.

Michael: Right.

Well, so, so for planet
you, there's one more day.

It started on April 21st.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: So there's,
today's the, whatever it is.

Audree: I think it's the

Michael: 25th.

25th.

Yeah, so there's one more day.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

So, but-

Michael: So

Audree: the, it's been
happening, it happens slowly.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And then it doesn't
complete ... I mean, it's like it,

it's like a, because it's a planet.

A planet is a huge mass-

Michael: Yeah, that's the main shift

in the solar system ... and
then there's like, there can

be an integration period after.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

As everything else kind of settles out.

Audree: Yeah.

But it takes, it takes a while.

It's not like this has been
happening since the 21st either.

It's been happening for a while now.

I think that is what has been
aligning us into the fifth

dimensional frequencies as well.

You could look at the solar system
like a giant mechanism or machine.

And there's some ... I just was reading
some evidence, this was a couple

years ago, where there was a scientist
looking at Stonehenge and seeing that

the alignment of, it- it's showing the
alignment of planets within the solar

system in their orbital, uh, positions.

And, and Stonehenge was
showing a different orbiting

path for all the planets.

And so they're saying that the,
that there's evidence within

Stonehenge that is showing that the
planets were moved out of orbit.

Mm.

Into a different orbital positions.

And they think it has something
to do with the oppression of

consciousness on, uh, for humanity.

Or it could have just been some kind of-

Michael: 60, 60, 70% true

... Audree: but maybe it was accidental,
'cause if you, if you look at,

if you look at a planet blowing

Michael: up- Well, there's
a planet that blew up

... Audree: right, that would push,
accidentally push orbits out of alignment.

Michael: Oh, it's true, but it actually
needed to happen, so it's okay.

Audree: Well, the other thing-
It's fine ... is, is that I

could, I could see that the, um,

that the polar shift of a, of Earth
could have also been kinda accidental,

but, like, not on pur- done on purpose.

But if a planet blows up and it knocks
plan- other planets out of their orbital

position, that would create a polar shift
in, on Earth, and other planets as well.

There also, there's also
evidence that Uranus, Planet U,

is out of alignment.

Like, it's, it's not in-

Michael: Oh, yeah.

That's, that's actually what happened.

Audree: Yeah.

And it-

Michael: That's why
there was a pole shift.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Is, is the, uh...

Yeah.

It's not like the pole shift
just spontaneously happens.

Audree: No, it, it's, it
needs a greater force- Wow

of nature to actually-

Michael: Wow, that whole theory,
oh, there's spontaneous pole shifts.

Audree: No.

Michael: Like, that does...

I, 'cause I always heard that.

Oh, my gosh, I'm just getting it now.

I always heard that.

I'm like, "Okay, that doesn't really
make sense to me from a physics

perspective, but okay," right?

And I, and then now you're
saying this, I'm like, oh, my

gosh, that makes so much sense.

It's so obvious.

Audree: Well, also look
at, look at Planet U.

Michael: I like that name so much better.

Audree: I know.

Planet U.

Planet you.

Michael: Planet you.

Audree: Um, s- some people are
saying that, uh, c- so I'm not gonna

say it as fact or scientific fact.

Michael: Well, you can check
Truth of Matter, so why don't

you just say what's true?

Audree: Well, you check Truth,
you check Truth of Matter.

It's hard to say- Why me?

... while I'm talking.

So what is, what is Ra from Human
Design says that Planet U does not

have a north-south polar alignment,
that it's actually the polar

alignment is Well, that's what

Michael: science says as
well, yes ... connected to,

Audree: it, oh, it does?

Yes Is, is that it's connected
to the sun, so it's on a- Mm

it's on a horizontal axis
instead of a vertical axis Yeah,

Michael: it's pointing towards
the sun instead of pointing

parallel, away from the sun.

Yeah Not away from the sun, but like-

Audree: Which all the
other planets are Yeah,

Michael: yeah

Audree: Which would create a huge,
um, magnetic or gravitational

pull to the other planets.

It would have, it does have
impact on the other planets, and

it's, it's, it's skew- Well, it's

Michael: electromagnetic,
not gravitational, but-

Audree: Okay.

Whatever it is.

There's some sort of- Yeah,

Michael: there's some sort of thingy

... Audree: thing.

There's a thing happening

Michael: Science-y thing

Audree: There's some
science-y thing happening It's

Michael: okay, we got it covered

Audree: Yes, we do.

So, so actually Planet U is now shifting
back to a vertical axis alignment To the

Michael: original intention

Audree: To the original intention.

So that's also what's happening right now.

Oh, we're out of time.

How perfect

Michael: Mm

Audree: So there's a lot of shit happening

Michael: Yeah.

I'm just starting to think about
the, the, you know, the title

or the summary for this episode.

It's like, "Okay, we just
covered the whole map."

Audree: Shit's happening here.

W- And we talk about it

Michael: Yeah

Audree: That could be the title.

Shit's happening and we talk about

Michael: it Yeah

Audree: Very good.

Now that we have the title.

Yes.

I have to figure out what I'm
wearing to the daffodil party Mm

We're going back into, into society.

I'm not gonna wear, wear a fascinator.

Do you know what a fascinator is?

You know those goofy hats that the
monarchs, the monarchy wears in Britain?

Those weird, like, little pill hats that
sit on their head, that are extraordinary.

Well, that they call them
fascinators or something like that.

I will not be wearing one

Michael: Got it

Audree: I was gonna wear this
shirt that I'm wearing now, but

I'm smelling my armpits so the,
the shirt's out of question.

Cannot wear it to the party

Michael: Mm.

Very good.

Should we close with the YouTube mantra?

Audree: Yes, we shall All

Michael: right.

Three minutes.

Here we go.

Oh.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's be

evolutionary.