You Are the Interference in Your Own Life

Michael: All right, so, so
Audrey, this is your dime.

Where, where do you wanna begin?

Audree: I was wondering if we should
switch chairs so you're in front of me.

I switched my place on the couch 'cause I-

Michael: We switched the
whole living room around

Audree: No, we, I already
said that, 'cause it makes a

beautiful circle- Oh, right

unintentionally.

But, um, no, you need to stay there.

I just moved here on the couch.

I know, this is so important.

This is all about evolution.

I switched my place on the couch.

So, um, if I keep sitting in the same
place, it, on the couch, eventually

that side will wear and this side won't.

Okay.

So I switch places, and
now we're not directly-

Michael: It's okay

Audree: across from each other.

Michael: All right.

So I guess that's where we're beginning.

Audree: No, I wanted to begin like this.

Dun, dun, dun, dun.

Dun, dun, dun.

Dun, dun, dun.

I don't know why singing the Indiana
Jones theme song makes me so excited.

It's

Michael: about adventure.

Audree: Oh, is that why?

Michael: Impossibility.

Audree: And possibilities?

Michael: Yeah, and overcoming everything.

Audree: Oh, I love it.

I'm so excited.

Okay, so yeah, it's my dime
because I made you mic up.

Because Michael, of
course, started talking.

Well, we've been talking for
a while, but now we got onto

something really, really good.

The hot

Michael: topics.

Audree: The hot topics.

So we were in a channeling
session yesterday with the Xi.

And for those of you that don't
know, I channel beings of higher

consciousness that exist outside
this universal frequency.

Michael: And we're in a training program.

Audree: And we're in a training

Michael: program.

They're our trainers.

Audree: Okay.

And it's the weird stuff that works,
folks, so go on the website and

you could hear a channeling from
the Xi and know exactly, kinda

get a flavor of who they are.

Anyways, so yesterday...

Yes?

Michael: I guess we're starting
with the backstory, huh?

Audree: Always.

They talked about collapsing waveform
functions into a singular wave based on...

W- they were t- they were comparing it
to the Young experiment of, um, when you

observe, uh, photons going through the-

Michael: Do you want me to explain it?

Audree: Yeah, okay.

'Cause you could go, 'cause
you're the one that had the-

Michael: Yeah, so-

the

Audree: awareness

... Michael: well, no, I'll explain
the experiment, and you can

continue with the setup.

So, so the, the, the Young experiment
demonstrates that the observer collapsed

the wave function, and it's done with, um,
firing electrons through a double slit.

And so what happens is when you
fire electrons through a double

slit- Instead of seeing two lines,
you see an interference pattern.

And the- Because

Audree: the photons turn

Michael: into a wave ... the
quantum physics,

Audree: the

Michael: quantum physics is the, the
electron goes through neither, and

it goes through both, and it goes,
and it, and basically the ma- th-

mathematically, it's impossible.

From a physics perspective, traditional
physics, impossible, but it shows

that we live in a quantum realm.

And-

Audree: Because a physical
particle can change its q- quality-

Michael: Yeah ... into a wave.

So basically, a, a physical particle
can interfere with itself and go through

one slit, but not the other one, right?

I mean, the whole thing is just
a proof that our, the world is

more complex than we think it is.

Audree: And at the same
time, this is when I had...

'Cause they showed this cartoon in India
when we were studying consciousness,

and they didn't give any explanation.

They just showed the, they sh-
you know- Mm-hmm ... 'cause

that's how the monks are.

Yeah.

They just show something, and you're
supposed to get it or not get it.

Depends on where your
consciousness- It's only

Michael: taken me, like, 10 years or more

Audree: is at.

And for me, the first time I saw it, I
got the biggest insight was how awareness

is the technology to shift consciousness.

Because it is, uh, those photons are
creating an interference pattern,

but when the observer comes to
watch what is happening, how is it

creating a interference pattern, how
is this particle turning into a wave,

that's when the particle
understands that it's being

observed, and it goes back into-

Michael: Behaving like a particle
going through one slit or the other,

Audree: yes.

Exactly.

Michael: Yeah, so what's really
interesting here, if you think about it-

Audree: Which is fascinating

... Michael: the egoic consciousness is
the particle going through both slits

and creating interference with itself.

Now, this is- It's

Audree: not interference.

I wanna say it's creating what
looks like interference patterns,

but it's multiple possibilities.

Michael: Yes.

Audree: So the, the egoic
consciousness is multidimensional.

Sometimes you're, like, you
know, seven people living on

the planet at the same time.

Michael: Or on a different
planet, or in different lifetimes,

and- It's like- ... in parallel
realities ... it's the- And everything

you've seen in a science fiction
movie is kinda true in our reality.

Audree: Right, in, um, timelines,
in all of these things.

I'll

Michael: remember we watched that
anime, Steins;Gate, and we're

like, "Oh, my gosh, this is the
actually how the mechanics work.

Like, what?"

Yeah.

Audree: Like It's like,
how do they know that?

It's

Michael: spooky.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Yeah.

So the good news is you don't need
to understand all the mechanics.

Audree: No.

Michael: The other good news is
it's incomprehensible anyway, so

don't, trying is even pointless.

But what I wanted to get back
to is the egoic consciousness is

creating interference with itself.

Let, let me clarify this, and
what does it mean for you?

Well, you are operating from
the egoic consciousness.

That's the foundation of what
you're, you're operating from.

These-

Audree: Because it's b- it's unobserved

... ' Michael: cause it's unobserved.

So what happens is- It's

Audree: subconscious

... Michael: you are the problem
and you are the solution.

Because you, operating through the
ego consciousness, are creating

interference with yourself.

That's why when you have the awareness,
you have the observation of how

you're c- creating interference with
yourself, how you're sabotaging your

own success, it creates the unlock.

That's what the, the technology- Right.

Audree: Or causing- ... is

Michael: about

... Audree: I, I just wanna say, it's not
just sabotaging your success, it is

how are you sabotaging your success?

'Cause you're gonna do
it in multiple ways.

And I, I just wanna clarify that this
also means physical disease and injuries.

Michael: Everything.

Audree: Every- It's
not just psychological.

It is, it is physical, physical

... Michael: it's every aspect of life
that i- when we're, when we're in this,

this self-interference, we're in the
deviated codes which are the disease,

are the suffering, are the bl- you know,
it, you know, the, the failure to get

promotion, are the, the poor relationships

Audree: The financial stress

Michael: Everything Everything

the scarcity, the lack, the struggle.

All of it.

All of it.

Okay, so that, is that the setup?

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Okay.

So, so I was going through
the, I, it was a- Oh,

Audree: wait a minute.

No Oh ... did I finish saying what the,
what the, she were saying yesterday.

I, maybe you remember it better, but
they were talking about the deviation.

So it's been exactly one year since
we've been channeling, and one year

ago to the day was the end of the
deviation, and they started explaining

why humanity couldn't fully get out of
the loop, the consciousness loop- Mm-hmm

of pain and suffering.

Mm-hmm.

And why all the modalities that have
been created to, for enlightenment, for

personal development, to get out of the,
the, the, the, the looping of the pain

and the suffering, all those m- modalities
were created within the deviation,

so they were never fully gonna get
anybody out of pain and suffering Mm-hmm

period.

It's also on our website.

Um, but what we didn't understand was
that we thought, "Okay, it's one and done.

Deviation's over- ... and we're
in a period of purification,"

purifying from those, um-

Michael: The imprints

... Audree: the imprints.

The, the, like, the kinda the, uh,
residue left over from the deviation.

And, uh, one year later, then they
started talking about What was actually

happening for this entire year and
what has been, what the de- you

know, this entire year they've been
explaining what the deviation is, why

it happened, what needed to happen.

Uh, you know, there's
been data collecting.

There's been all kinds of
very interesting information.

Um,

but what I'm getting at here is
that what they were specifically

talking about was this

... And, and this is why they brought
up the Young experiment, was that

what's been happening with the
deviation is that we've been slowly

collapsing those interference patterns.

The

Michael: deviated multidimensional
aspects, the deviated possibilities, the

deviated parallel realities, all of that.

The deviated perspectives
and lifetimes, all of it.

Audree: Right.

And so because our work, something
different about our work that is very

specific, that's always been this
way from the beginning in, in 2009,

was that it works in all aspects of
our being on all planes of existence

throughout all time, space, and beyond.

Michael: Without any story.

Audree: Without any story.

And, and I always just thought,
well, this is instantaneous

healing because, you know, we're,
we're healing ancestral lineages.

We're, we're going through the timelines.

We're pulling out stuff
from the Akashic records.

We're, we're hitting all these
aspects, so when you do the healing

in your current reality, it's gonna
heal through a- all aspects of your

being, all these different things.

And until the, the She spoke
yesterday, I didn't quite

understand what was happening.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Was that there was this, it
was collapsing all of these realities.

That's what our work does.

That's why it's so profound,
and it gets to the root cause.

Mm.

Is because it's, it's ... We, when
we do this work intentionally,

we're collapsing everything.

Mm.

There's more to it than just s-
you know, the all aspects of being.

I mean, we're going into
the, the vows that we took.

We're actually taking full
ownership and responsibility.

We're t- pulling our power back from
all of these experiences and so on.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Now, I think you can go.

Okay.

Michael: So-

Audree: I think that's the big setup

so

Michael: that's the setup?

Audree: That's the setup.

Michael: Ah.

Yeah.

A lot of, a lot of information there.

Okay.

So, so what I was doing, I was
going through the transcript again.

Actually, I, I, I mean, this was
such a profound session yesterday.

I went through it.

Uh, I went through the transcript.

I listened to the audio again.

I listened to the audio and
the transcript together and,

and Um, that was all yesterday.

And that was so, I mean, such
a, such a profound session.

Um And

Audree: then we listened to it

Michael: Going to sleep, yeah ... going to

Audree: sleep.

Michael: But I fell asleep in the,
like in the first five minutes, so that

doesn't- Mm-hmm ... really count for me.

Um, so this morning, it's like, oh,
I'm gonna read through this again.

This is while I was doing the research
that I'm doing and stuff like that.

But I was kind of going back and forth.

And so I was reading through it, and
I, and I, and I, and I re- was not just

trying to read through it and just, you
know, get, get it and understand it all.

I was just reading it
and just feeling into it.

And what I realized is, wait a second,
like there are things that I thought

were less important here that are now
I understand are more important, right?

I was getting kind of the first version
the, yesterday, and something had shifted.

And what was happening is while I was
going through the, the, the transcript,

I had this, this sudden realization and
this, this gnosis or this experience in

what actually happened with the deviation.

And so if you think about

I'm gonna give you a metaphor here
to understand the deviation and

what's happening with the deviation.

So ending the deviation, first of
all, to go back to the setup, a little

bit of more setup here, is a process.

It's not like a one and done.

If you think about all the mechanics
of creation being messed up over

time, now we have to un-mess it up.

If you wanna ... I'm gonna
... Messing up is a pejorative, so

I don't, or a negative term.

I don't really mean it that way.

It means we need to unwind
whatever happened, um, to

fully change what's happening.

So if you wanna have a metaphor, you can
think about the Big Bang of this universe.

There's a, there's an energetic impulse.

It explodes into all creation,
and, and the universe expands

and expands and expands.

And of course, once the universe
is finished expanding, it starts

collapsing back in and goes back to that
single point, the singularity, right?

So that's what's going
on with the deviation.

And so what I saw or experienced
mystically, I had this gnosis of it,

was the deviation followed the exact
same pattern, the exact same pattern.

And what I was shown, I guess the guides
were speaking to me, was a structure.

So I'll give you another
metaphor to help understand this.

A metaphor, a very, very beautiful
structure for a team or group of people

working together to create something, and
it was called the Magician's Blackboard.

Or I, I'd probably rename it.

I think we renamed it
the Creator's Blackboard.

Um, and what happens is you
start with just one idea.

It could be a product idea.

It could be something that that
group of people wants to create,

like a team or something like that.

And what happens is, instead of like,
well, we're gonna analyze this, and

we're gonna make plans, all you do is
you start spawning off- More kind of

sticky notes or sub-nodes out of that
central idea to explore different topics.

And each of those sub-nodes
explores into more sub-nodes.

And what happens is there's an explosion
from this one sticky note in the middle

of a, a blackboard or a whiteboard or a
wall to this expanse of growing expanse

of all the different questions, all the
different topics of exploration to build

that product or complete that idea.

And it expands and expands and
expands, and after some time, the

research phase stabilizes, the build
phase starts to begin, and it begins

collapsing and collapsing and collapsing
and collapsing and collapsing.

And when all the st- other
sticky notes are gone, except

for the, the implementation
of that product, you're done.

The team's done.

They've completely successfully
implemented that new product idea.

And, and so that's the, the dreamer's
blackboard or the magician's blackboard.

Um, so, so, so what I saw in
that moment is the big bang,

the magician's blackboard.

These follow the same structure
of what happened to deviations.

If you think about the deviation starting,

uh, there was this
impulse for the deviation.

It grew and grew and grew and
grew and created all these

different fractal realities.

These are all the possibilities
Audry was speaking about, all the

multidimensional realities, all the
distortions and the lifetimes and so on.

And so what happens is it grew in
this huge kind of fractal, distorted,

looped, self-referential, tightly
knitted, energetic structures.

It grew and grew and grew.

And what happened is, when the end of the
deviation started a little bit over a year

ago now, is that the actual structure,
like whatever the energetic impulse for

that expansion was, was, was removed.

And so what happened is that cl- structure
started to collapse in on itself.

And that's what's been going on, is
the mechanisms of awareness of, oh,

awareness of this behavior, awareness
of this past life, awareness of this,

you know, ancestral pattern that
we have a, a vow or contract with.

What happens is there's a collapsing
of all those wave functions, of all

those kind of different probabilities,
and that's what, that's what's

happening, is essentially the collective
awareness of universal consciousness.

I'm, I'm making up a term here because I
don't really know how to describe this.

But that awareness is activating an
awareness of those deviated structures

that are collapsing the wave function.

And so what's been happening over this
time is that, that, that structure's been

collapsing and collapsing and collapsing.

And then the epiphany I had when I
was explaining it to Audry just now,

this is what's going on, I said,
"Oh, that's the singularity," right?

There's, you know, all this talk
about the singularity, where there's

a, there's a complete end of all
lower frequency energetic structures

connected with the deviation.

And that's where the singularity
happens, where all possibility

of that has completely collapsed.

And, and again, it's not a,
you know, a sudden happening.

It's, it's a gradual process of all these
different distortions, of all these,

you know, energetically, it's, it's, you
know, we see these as deviated light codes

that are dissolving and purifying and
returning back to the original intention.

And so what's happening is all
of that, that's collapsing.

And, and the, the funny thing is,
as it collapses, all we see is that

what it was covering, which is the
original intention of this universal

frequency, is just there and manifest.

And, and that's really what we're
connecting into now, even as we're

in this process, this awareness
of there are these two separate

activations of what reality is.

There's the original intention,
which we can connect in and, and

experience, and that's already there.

And what we're seeing is this covering
of the, the deviation that expanded, now

contracting, contracting, and eventually
we get the singularity, where is the

point at which it completely dissolves
out of this universal frequency.

Audree: You know what
I'm getting right now?

Michael: I'm so curious.

Audree: That's why we,
um, we got the E2 mantra.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Because the mantra is everybody,
everybody, one sound, one consciousness.

And what that's going to do is, because
we already know that the E2 mantra is,

is this really powerful amplifier and
accelerator to dissolve all of those-

Michael: Deviated light codes

Audree: deviated light codes.

And the more that we, when
we, when we sit together-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: and, and do the E2
mantra together, it, it becomes

an even more powerful field.

Mm-hmm.

And then what's happening is that

we need one mantra because we're
collapsing all those waveforms,

and we need one waveform.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And so there's this accelerator
happening, and I, I also was seeing

how, how the more people that are
doing this work, the more powerful

it becomes, and then it, it, it
com- it, it's like expanded out.

And as it gets closer and closer to
the singularity, there's this tipping

point that happens where it's like
everybody's- Oh ... doing the same thing.

They're in the same frequency, and
it, it amplifies, it magnifies, and

then it goes very, very quickly.

Michael: Right.

So, so yeah, I'm seeing it now.

Yeah.

So what, what it is is like there's a,
there's a, the collapsing has begun.

Mm-hmm.

It's happening.

And what's happening, there's an ex- point
of, of acceleration in the collapsing

where it'll just go spontaneously.

It'll just, just fall in
on itself so, so fast.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

It's just over.

Audree: Yeah.

And

Michael: then it...

Like the, the snap.

Audree: The snap.

Yeah.

Michael: Yeah.

But it's a, it's a, it's
a, it's a process where...

So what happens is once it reaches
a certain point- The acceleration

or the gravity of the, the
structures pull in on themselves.

Audree: Right.

Like

Michael: it just whoosh.

Audree: That's, that's why we've
been gui- like, I mean, the, the

biggest- That's why it'll happen
in- ... guidance or the- ... it's

Michael: just as a one thing

... Audree: the inspiration for me was
like, oh, my God, everybody on the

planet needs to have the E2 mantra.

Like, that's...

It, it was, it's given to all of
humanity, and it's an- it's been

answering my prayer, how can we help
humanity- Yeah ... accelerate it.

Um, but now even, like, this, like,
we're doing these Sunday meditations

on YouTube, and we're like, "Nobody's-
Live streaming, yeah ... coming.

Live streaming.

Nobody's coming to this thing.

Why are we doing it?

This is so stupid."

Like, everything we do is kind
of stupid because it's like-

Michael: Well, the mind can think that.

Audree: I know.

I know.

Michael: Well, I, I am
actually reminded of something.

Audree: What?

Michael: You know, when you were
first getting evolutionary energetics

and you thought, "I don't wanna
have to bring this to humanity.

Why do I have to do it?"

Mm-hmm.

You were so angry.

Mm-hmm.

So annoyed.

And, you know, in some ways,
that hasn't really fully changed.

I mean, it's changed a lot, but I
feel like there, there might still

be, like, a trace of that somewhere.

Audree: Of course there is.

Michael: What do you
mean of course there is?

Audree: Well, it just
doesn't make any sense.

Like, even in my astrology chart, the
whole thing of work, fa- name and fame-

Michael: Uh-huh

... Audree: and life purpose-
Yeah ... are empty.

Completely empty.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: There's no,
there's no pull for that.

There's no...

So it doesn't make s- it, it doesn't,
it qui- it doesn't make sense to me.

Not only that, but I was thinking- No.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm

about this the other day, 'cause I was
working through some of the anger, was

that- ... the age of the guru is over.

And so while the age of the guru
is over, how are we supposed to

get this work out into the world?

It doesn't make any sense because
there still needs to be...

I mean, even though our
work is, "Don't worship us.

We're just giving you the information,
and we're not the teacher.

There's nothing special about us.

Actually, we all have the same abilities,
and we all have self-mastery, and

this is our passion and our desire
for everybody to have self-mastery."

And at the same time, it's like we're
entering into the Age of Aquarius.

We've entered into it now.

We're in it.

Michael: We are in it, yes.

Audree: Is that it is about self-mastery.

It is about collaboration and, and
co-creation, and there's no more, um...

Like, all of those-

Michael: Power, control, character-ism

... Audree: power controls, right, collapse.

And at the same time-

Michael: Are collapsing
through a gradual process,

Audree: yes Yeah.

Is that we're all, we're also seeing
this kind of weirdness with our students

of, like, leaving the work and going
off and doing their own thing, and

then they s- they stop doing the work.

So there's all this kind of
stuff going on with me about,

like, w- w- what are we doing?

Like, why don't we just- Right

turn our house into a, a, a bed and
breakfast and just fuck it all, you know?

Michael: Like- Well, that was the
main theme of yesterday, if you had to

summarize the whole thing, was what?

Audree: What?

Michael: Yesterday's channeling.

Audree: I don't know, 'cause
I didn't listen to it.

Trust,

Michael: trust the process.

Audree: Right.

Michael: Trust the process.

I mean, that's what the whole thing
was about, is about understanding

there's a process and that-

Audree: Oh- And that-

because they referenced the, they
referenced the Marvel movie that we just

Michael: watched.

Audree: Yeah.

The Endgame.

Michael: Avengers: Endgame, yeah.

Audree: Yeah, where they go back and
they talk to Sorcerer Supreme- W- ... and

she's like, "I'm not giving you the stone.

I'm not giving you the stone."

And then Bruce Banner says-

Michael: Well, y- y- you can't
give, give the whole thing, but,

I mean, you can give this part.

That's fine

... Audree: Bruce Banner says,
"But Doctor Strange s- said

we had to do it, we, uh..."

Doctor Strange mentioned
something, and she was like, "Oh."

Michael: Here you go.

Audree: And sh- it's,
how do actors do that?

Like, 'cause I actually felt her-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: reaching through all of creation-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: to figure out that
that was the right thing to do.

Like, everything in her being stopped-
Mm-hmm ... and it was like a real stop.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: It's fascinating
how actors can do that.

Michael: That's why they're good.

Audree: Exactly.

Michael: Yeah, so, so, uh, the, the bottom
line was really it's like, oh, if you want

things to work out, you're gonna have to
do all these things, and they won't make

any sense, and at the end of it you'll
understand why this is the only thing-

Audree: In hindsight

Michael: in hindsight.

Audree: The guides, the- Yes, in hindsight

... Michael: that she were

Audree: saying.

In hindsight- Right.

So part- ... you will see, but while
it's happening you won't see it.

Michael: Yes.

So part of the structure of the situation
we're in is that we will only understand

why it makes sense in hindsight,
that we can't know it in advance.

'Cause if we try to know it advance of
what will happen, it actually creates an,

it actually blocks the actual outcome.

Audree: Right.

I remember when I was, I, after I
graduated Barbara Brennan- ... an energy

touch school, like, to be a healer
I had to meditate every single day.

And I'd drop off the kids from
school, and I would come back.

This is before I was wor- This, so
this was before I was working at the,

at, um, at the doctor's
office as a healer.

But I would meditate for
three hours every day.

And I did it standing.

It was really, 'cause that's how I
was trained, was to meditate standing.

'Cause as a healer, you
were always standing.

So you had to harness, be
able to harness the energy for

long periods of time standing.

And I remember going into the High
Council of Light, and this is before

I had Evolutionary Energetics.

And it was this, they put this thing,
like they put me in like some kinda

chamber, and then they put these
electrode thingies on my head, and

they said, "We're rewiring your brain"

And ph- um, metaphysically
or energetically, I was

like that for three days.

And in hindsight, they were preparing
me to receive the information

for Evolutionary Energetics.

Mm-hmm.

But I didn't know.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: But I just followed this
weird thing that was happening to me,

having no idea that it was happening.

You know?

So I guess that's an example of things
fo- W- You know, trusting the process.

Michael: Well, the, I mean, see,
even with, uh, you know, at all

levels of all of our students,
and we say, "Look, you know what?

It's about believing us enough to
run the experiment for yourself-

Mm-hmm ... and then use your own empirical
data to discover what you discover."

And so I think that's what this is about.

I think probably, and I, and I see this
now, one, the challenge we're in, you

know, for, as the, you know, egoic aspect
of our being that's struggling with our

situation, is while we may understand
at some level there's a perfection in

the plan, and everything is exactly
happening as it should be, there's

another part of ourselves w- that says,
"No, no, no, it should be like this.

You know, ev- these outcomes should
have already happened by now."

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Right?

And so-

Audree: Exactly

... Michael: and that's exactly what our,
what, what, what I see with, um, with

our students, is the exact same pattern.

It's like someone was sick, and
they're like, "Oh, I'm sick."

They're, you know, "Therefore, this
is not good and nothing's working."

Audree: Right.

Michael: Right?

And I'm, and thinking like,
"No, no, you don't get it.

The sickness is the gateway through to
that next stage of evolution so you can

get everything that you wanted to get."

And it's just like, you know, and this
ties in with that Australian healer

said, is like, you know, people, when
they're right there, they're about to

get the thing they want, they give up.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Right?

And that's, that's the structure of it.

And that's the, in, you know,
it feels like in some ways the

test of do we really want it?

Do we really wanna get to the other side?

Audree: Well, that's the other thing that
the Shi have always said was, it was that

part of this, the process, is when it
feels- When you're at your worst, or at

the bottom of the barrel, and everything
is hopeless, and you're, you're, you're

out of, you're, you're o- you know And

Michael: nothing's working

Audree: nothing's working.

You're still in the situation.

It's hopeless.

You should just give up,
and you're still doing-

Michael: You're still using the tools

... Audree: you're still using the tools.

That's when it's a real
yes for your evolution.

Mm-hmm.

And that's what they're waiting for now.

That's the other thing that they've
said all year, is they've said that

there will be people that w- wanna
stay in these deviated patterns.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Audree: They like the drama.

They're addicted to the
anger and the frustration.

They don't want to, they do not want to
see that they are creating their reality.

Like, I think and that's f- from
our, from my perspective of our

work, that's where we lose people.

Hmm.

Because...

And for me, my mind, my ego, the,
the egoic consciousness keeps saying,

"It's all your fault, Michael."

Yeah.

"It's all your fault.

It's all your fault."

One day

Michael: you'll understand I'm perfect.

" Audree: It's all your fault."

And, and I c- and then there's
this dialogue in my head

going- ... um, "Excuse me.

That is not what we teach."

"I'm going to remind you
that it is your fault.

You're the one that's
creating this reality.

You're the one that's crea-"
And I have to be very, very firm

within the egoic consciousness.

So I'm having this shit show inside of
my, you know, uh, almost like, you know,

you could say I'm schizophrenic at this
point because it's like there's one

aspect of my being that's like, "Oh, no.

This is all Michael's fault.

This is all m- uh, I'm
gonna blame it on my father.

I'm gonna blame it on Michael's father.

I'm gonna blame it on somebody's,
you know, giving us the evil

eye- ... or cursing us or whatever.

And I have to stop and say, "Ugh.

No, that's not true."

Michael: I- if-

Audree: I'm creating this.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: You are creating this.

You meaning, you know, the
internal aspect of my consciousness

that's in the deviation.

It's creating this.

Mm-hmm.

And then when I go and I stop the
nonsense, and I enfold, and I, and I

look at the awareness, like that whole
egoic consciousness shuts off, and that's

when I can start doing the real work.

Mm-hmm.

The, the vows and

Michael: And actually get to the root.

Audree: Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Michael: So s- uh, it's
actually interesting.

I just, just felt into this.

Schizophrenia is where there are
different deviated aspects playing

ping pong, arguing, kind of like the
reactive de- deliberation- version Kind

Audree: of like it, or it is- Or it

Michael: is, it is exactly like it

Audree: Yes

... Michael: it, that are, that are not
operating any goal-serving purpose.

They're just in, in kind of, you know-

Audree: Well, that's the
interference pattern again

Michael: Yeah.

So, so whereas what Audrey's describing
is definitely not schizophrenia

because she's just tuning into the
different aspects of her being.

There's the purified creator
consciousness, free of the deviation,

that's interacting with the, the
aspect of itself that's the egoic

consciousness that's operating these
deviated patterns of, you know, of, of

creating, creating the problem, right?

So-

Audree: Well, real schizophrenia-
And we're- ... is just, uh, is, uh,

possession by, uh, astral beings.

Michael: Okay.

Fun fact.

Audree: Fun fact.

Take, take, put that in
your pipe and smoke it.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Very good.

So, so coming back to kind
of the, and the other...

So I'll just go back to what was the
exper- what I was going through with this

reading, going through the transcript.

The other thing going on was, you know,
there's this, there's this tension.

There's this real, or not really a
tension, but this paradox to transcend

between the perfection of the plan,
of everything's actually just perfect,

and at the same time, also being aware,
an awareness of what's happening,

and doing the work that's needed.

And so, you know, he- here's the example.

Um,

you know, here's the example.

Let's say some of, something, some
appliance breaks in your house,

something you use every day.

Let's say your phone breaks.

Let's take a very practical example.

You know, if you, if you, if you
just stay in the everything's

just part of the plan mode, it's
like, "Oh, it's supposed to break.

Maybe I'm not supposed to have a phone.

I'll go through life without a
phone," which won't work anyway

'cause you probably can't log into
websites that require two-factor

authentication and so on.

But like, it like, "Oh, I just need
to do this thing," or, "Maybe I'm

never supposed to use a phone again."

I mean, you can, you can take
whatever happens to you and

say, "Oh, it's just a plan.

I need to go with this," right?

Or you could take it in the other
perspective of the egoic's perspective,

like, "My life needs depends on plan.

I need my phone," and, and, you know,
get all worked up in a, a tether

about getting it fixed and getting a
new one as soon as possible, right?

But the, the, the kind of the middle path
or the transcendence of both is to just

say, "Look, what's going on with this?

What is the meaning here?

What can I learn from this?

What is this really all about?"

And get the learning.

And out of that learning, probably,
like a really, 'cause if you wanna

function in this world, you probably
actually need a phone, right?

But you're doing it from a different
energetic template where whatever that

may be, that structural dependency
of, you know, addiction you have

with your phone, that there's
something getting, uh, that you have

an opportunity to let go of there.

And, and that's where it's like, "Oh,
maybe this is supposed to happen.

What can I learn from it?"

So what I discovered is, and this is
my kind of- Current interpretation, it

could change, but it's like an awareness
of the perfection of everything that's

happening around you, and awareness of,
okay, well, it's almost back to the same

original question from Umiji at oneness

Audree: Why does it bother you?

Michael: Yeah, why does it disturb you?

Audree: So- Right?

Michael: And so it's not even about
do I take action or not take action.

When we eliminate the disturbance,
which are the deviated patterns,

which is the interference pattern, the
interference is gone, we know what to do.

Audree: It's the playbook.

So in our leadership
training, we have a playbook.

And-

Michael: Well, even in the other
branch, that's, you know, both

Audree: branches Yeah, we have a, well-

Michael: We have a playbook for
life, for work, for everything.

Audree: It's all the same playbook.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Fun fact.

Michael: Fun fact.

Audree: Um.

'Cause

Michael: it's just about how do we create?

Audree: Well, it's because there's a
mechanic of how creation functions, and

we've said this again in, in some of
these, um, in some of these podcasts.

When we are in resistance and we're
frustrated, we're in a lower vibrational

frequency, we're pushing against
whatever, we're even in resistance

to nurturing our own self in, in, in
creating a, a, an extraordinary life,

we're, we're pushing.

It's a, the, the anger, the resistance,
the blame, the frustration, even the

depression, all of that is pushing
against the very nature of our being,

and so that is creating the stop.

Michael: I, I'm just getting
this at a deeper level.

It's, it's actually that, that
whole structure Of how we create

the resistance and the block in
our life is we're actually creating

from deviated light codes that just
spawn more deviated light codes.

Mm-hmm.

And so we're kind of in this, um-

Audree: That's the loop

... Michael: that's the loop.

Mm-hmm.

That's the loop because we
can never exit that loop.

And so that's why when we teach
people to operate in a different way

without that- Mm-hmm ... what we're
actually giving them is the mechanism.

This is why it's only
when they use the tools.

They can't just have a concept.

They have to use the tools-
Right ... because they have to

find the source of that push.

They have to find the deviated source that
was the impulse behind, behind the action.

I'm gonna say this, this is actually
the key pre- p- part here, is what is

the low frequency source, the deviated
source, in the impulse behind the action?

Even something really beautiful,
like, oh, I wanna date this person,

or I wanna be in a relationship.

Audree: Or I wanna give to charity- I

Michael: wanna- ... or
volunteer ... anything.

Anything.

Anything you think is beneficial in
your life, when you start digging

down, you see that this just, it's just
the, it's just you creating problems

in your life, really, 'cause what's
happening is there's some sort of d-

um, low frequency energetic structure
that's sitting underneath that positive

interpretation of that action that,
that, that even the successful outcome of

that action won't actually satisfy that.

And that's really how we're on this con,
really this constant treadmill of the ego

consciousness says, "Hey, do this thing."

We do this thing.

We kind of at a surface level feel
good about it, but that, that,

that, that fundamentally distorted
energetic structure is just still

there eating away at our being.

And when we try to create from
that structure, we can't ever

really create something that's
fully complete or satisfied.

Audree: Right.

So we're, we're not in the
original intention or the nature,

the true nature of our being.

So we are creating that push, and when
we create that push, we create the

resistance, and that, that's the stop.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: It's all right there.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah, and the beauty is we don't
need to even fully purify it.

It's just, we have to have less low
frequency, and then things get better.

Audree: Right.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And it's done through awareness.

Michael: Awareness.

Back to awareness.

Audree: Because we'll go back
to the, the awareness itself

is the thing that, that- Mm

stops the interference patterns.

Michael: Yeah.

And, and I think, you know, I don't
know if we've talked about this, but

for me, what really this work is about
is about giving people the specific

mechanics and step-by-step structures
to develop awareness- Mm-hmm ... in

a profound and extraordinary way.

Mm-hmm.

Like, it's not like, oh, just be aware.

You know, pay attention to
how you're eating your food.

'Cause we're, we're not

- Audree: Mindfulness ... yeah,

Michael: yeah.

Uh, well, I mean, it's really beautiful
work as a kind of a, a, a really-

Audree: Starter

... Michael: gentle- Yeah ... you know,
entryway into a, a much- We don't do-

... Audree: greater
concept ... gentle entryways.

We're just like, you know- Let's

Michael: rip the bandage
off and get this thing done.

Audree: Exactly.

Because why do we wanna m- why do we want-
We want accelerated and rapid evolution-

Well, ge- ... and the only way to do that
is to go right to the, penetrate into

the, the root of the whole entire thing.

Michael: Right.

Well, the, the gentle, gentle
entryways right now are actually

a sabotage strategy, right?

It's actually keeping somebody
stuck, installed, but- Mm-hmm

'cause they're, they're investing in
this, in something that's gonna keep

them kind of in this limited state.

Audree: Well, that's because all the
modalities that were, that were created,

were created inside the deviation, and the
deviation has a, m- what do you call that?

A self-referential pattern of
keeping everything within the

deviation and never coming out of it.

It, it, it can't Never stepping out of it.

No.

That's why when we talk
about game one and game two-

Michael: Now we're getting it

... Audree: right?

We, everybody wants to jump into
game two, which we, you know- Free

Michael: of the deviation and- Free

Audree: of the deviation ... in source
and- The enlightened state of being,

and it's, it's kind of like we see
that there's this back and forth, back

and forth, back and forth, but what
we really see underneath everything-

is that you can never get out of game one.

Michael: But they can, because the ga-
because, because what we're doing is

we're purifying the ego consciousness
into the creator consciousness.

That's the purified version
that is creating reality.

And so that, that
structure never goes away.

It's already there, but
it has to get purified.

And the, the-

Audree: That's where we
talk about transformation.

We're, we're transmuting and
healing and transforming the egoic

consciousness to understand the truth
of what- Yeah ... and who it is,

which is the creator consciousness.

It is creator consciousness.

It's never gonna go away.

It's just gonna be healed of all
those deviated structures that

it's, that it's programmed on.

Michael: Right.

So here's the glitch.

I just got it.

Audree: What?

Michael: That requires
letting go of everything.

Yes.

Because everything that we think
about who we are and what's true for

us and what's important for us is
pretty much all deviated light codes.

Audree: I know.

That's why our relationship
is so good right now.

Michael: Why?

' Audree: Cause I let go of it.

Michael: Oh, that's so good.

Audree: I saw the- Finally ... the
patterns of why I was in this

relationship to begin with,
which was all survival based.

Hmm.

And then I was just like,
"Well, that's not gonna work.

I don't wanna have a
relationship like that."

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: That started in January.

Michael: Oh, you know what this reminds
me of is, you know, what's his name?

Um, John Mark Stroud, Waking Up to the
Mu- One Who Wakes, waking up to the

movies, has this beautiful thing of y-
it's about freeing the other person,

and that was really beautiful language
for me, you know, a few years ago.

But what I'm just getting now is,
it's really what our t- what the, the

structure of our teaching is to see, see
how we're not freeing the other person.

Audree: Right.

Michael: Right?

Audree: Exactly.

Michael: That's what love is, right?

I mean, you know, everything else is-

Audree: That's what I saw ... me.

Yeah.

I was like, "Holy shit.

I just- I could, I could saw all
the mechanics of the manipulation-

Michael: Mm

... Audree: right from the beginning.

Michael: Very good.

Audree: And then I saw it in you, too.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And then I was like, "What?

It's all him.

It's all him," and then I
was like, "Wait a minute.

No, it's not."

Michael: That's so good.

Audree: Crazy making.

And at the same time- Right,

Michael: so we have to free ourselves

... Audree: so good.

Michael: We have to free ourselves.

Mm-hmm.

No one can do this for us.

Yep.

Like, there's no energetic procedure
that's gonna get you to see how

you've been creating your own
pain and suffering in your life.

I mean, it's just not possible.

I mean, we need the energetics
to support the journey- Nobody

Audree: wants to do that, either

... Michael: to enable the journey.

It's- Well, everybody wants to
be free, but maybe no one wants

to do the work to get free.

You know what, you know
what I got, though?

Audree: You have to have courage.

Michael: Th- she said we don't
need to do this for anybody else.

Audree: No.

Michael: So whether anybody comes
here or not is completely irrelevant.

All we need to do is do it for
ourselves and hold the transmission.

That's our job, end of story.

Audree: Exactly.

That's why I love these conversations.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Even though we're mic'd up
and doing a podcast or whatever,

we've been doing these conversations
long before, years actually-

Michael: Yeah

Audree: before we, we mic'd up.

Michael: Mm.

Audree: We finally mic'd up because we
thought maybe this would help people.

Michael: I think it's mostly
just helping ourselves.

Audree: But it is, 'cause we're-
Mm ... having these discussions-

Yeah ... and then we're having these
insights, and we're energizing ourselves

through talking about this work and
re- reminding ourselves of how...

That's what we do when we're together-

Michael: Mm-hmm

... Audree: is we remind ourselves of
how important this work is for us.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Totally selfish.

Totally selfish.

Michael: So I notice
we're coming up on time.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: There's one more topic I
just wanted to touch on briefly,

which is, yes, you are correct.

Our voices do sound different.

Audree: What do you mean?

Michael: Our voices sound
different because we're not using

the same recording technology.

So I'll give you the backstory, then
I'll tell you what the, the fix was.

So what happened yesterday-

Audree: What do you mean
our voices sound different?

Michael: On the recording.

I'll explain.

Oh, okay.

Just listen.

Listen.

Listen and learn.

How

Audree: do you, how do you know?

Michael: Listen and learn.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: So what happened yesterday,
we've been using these RODE Go wireless

microphones and clipping them onto
our chest area just below our, our,

our, our chin, and what, uh, what
happened yesterday was Audrey's,

or she was in a channeling, and
the she were like, "Wait a second.

What's going on here?

This thing is, like, burning."

And there

Audree: was- The device
was burning on my body.

Michael: Burning, not
physically, but energetically.

It was r- tearing a hole
in Audrey's energetic field

Audree: Yeah

Michael: And so we're like,
"Okay, well, we'll just-" Which

Audree: is not the first
time this has happened with-

Right ... a device on my body.

Michael: Yeah.

So then we moved it to the side
so it wasn't directly on her

body, and that solved the problem.

So then I, I spent some time researching,
okay, well, what are all the...

what does the science say?

What are people's theories about
the effect of electromagnetic

devices on the physiology?

And, you know, honestly, you
know, science says, "Okay,

electronics are bad for you," right?

It can cause this cancer, it can cause
this thing, but it's a mild proof.

Audree: There's a reason why it causes
cancer- Okay ... is because it's

ripping a hole in your energetic field.

Okay,

Michael: okay, just calm down.

Calm down, crazy pants.

All right.

So then I went to, like, other kind
of things, and it says, well, there's

a widespread agreement in kind of all
communities of ener- energy practitioners

and, and spiritual practitioners and...

that, oh, electronics are not
good for you, and it's good to

not have them around when doing,
doing work and, and so on, right?

And so I'm like, "Okay, well,
what's really going on here?"

And I, you know, this
is how it works for me.

I don't try to figure it out.

I just let it go.

And then this morning, I
was in the, in the kitchen.

So yeah- Minding your own
business ... yesterday I concluded...

Y- yeah, that's, that's
how it always happens.

That's how you know it's
a download of information.

You're not trying to figure it out.

So I just gave up on it yesterday.

I go, "Well, this is kind of a
mystery, and probably should figure

it out sometime, but okay, I got other
things to focus on," so no problem.

Well,

Audree: we had to solve the problem
of the, the recording sounds really

good when we have the device-
Yeah ... right near the mouth.

Michael: So, so anyway, so, so,
you know, my workaround was, well,

I got these, uh, these microphone
extensions so the, the actual RODE

Go device is not close by, 'cause I
discovered that it's not just Bluetooth.

It actually us- creates a mini Wi-Fi
network to broadcast from the microphone

recording device to the, uh, reception
device, which then goes into the iPhone.

So anyway, so it's actually
not just Bluetooth.

It's actually like a mini, um,
mini Wi-Fi network that's sitting,

was sitting on Ari's chest.

So I'm going, "Oh, that
makes so much sense."

And so, but I left it as an open question.

Like, I had a workaround, it was
solved, but I, I had this open question,

"Well, how does this all really work?

I don't know."

So anyway, so I was in the kitchen this
morning, minding my own business, and then

suddenly it's like, okay, well, just open
up a notes file and start writing it down.

And what I did was, um, uh, I needed
some sort of bench line or to say,

to get the information of, like,
how bad are these devices for us?

And what I started with one device,
um, that we started using as part of

our research, I'm not gonna mention it
here, but what it did was it, it tore

a gigantic hole in our energetic field.

It was, like, so horrible,
this kind of medical device.

Um, and, uh, and so I
used that as a tandem.

So what I did was I calibrated
everything we do- Everything we

do that touches on electronics

Audree: Everything we use

Michael: Everything we use, right?

Audree: Every device

Michael: Everything,
everything around you.

The, you know, the electricity
in the house, the Wi-Fi network,

your, your mobile phone.

Mm-hmm.

Your mobile phone with the,
the, the transmitter on.

I'm not gonna go through all the details.

But what I got is this detailed list of
device by device, use by use, what was

actually going on and what harm it was.

And what I discovered is that these,
these microphones, when on our bodies,

are actually quite destructive.

Like, they were, um...

And, and the other thing I discovered
through this process is Audry's physiology

is almost, like, 10 times more sensitive.

Like, I don't...

I still, I don't...

Okay, again, I don't have
an answer to this one.

I've, I've been trying to figure it
out, so maybe I'll find out sometime.

But it's almost like my, my, my
physio- my energetic physiology

is more durable somehow.

Um, and Audry's is more
open and sensitive.

Maybe 'cause you have an
emotional data collector.

Like, I don't, I don't know.

Audree: I've been channeling.

Michael: Yeah, maybe 'cause
you're more purified 'cause

you've been doing the channeling.

Anyway, so what-

Audree: I'm not more

Michael: purified.

Energetically, maybe.

So anyway.

Audree: I don't know.

Michael: So, uh, we don't know why.

But anyway, she's 10 times more
sensitive, so, but really for me-

Audree: I think it's
'cause I'm a projector.

Like, my, my whole entire
being is- Mm-hmm ... I'm- And

Michael: I'm a generator

... Audree: I, well, I'm always-

Michael: Oh, yeah

... Audree: I'm, I'm always out- I'm just
feeling energetically all the time.

Michael: That's actually why.

Wow.

So fun fact just discovered here live
on this podcast is projectors are

almost 10 times more energetically
sensitive than generators.

Audree: Yes.

That's our job.

Michael: Wow.

Oh, right, 'cause you guys
are the magicians, the

energetic wizards of the world.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Wow.

Okay, that makes so much sense.

Audree: That's because we
guide, we guide, um, generators.

Michael: Holy smokes, so

Audree: y- So we have to know
what's going on energetically.

Michael: So this is why it's so
important for everybody, especially

projectors, to get out in nature
with their, with no phone.

Mm-hmm.

Or their phone off.

Because what it does is it gives them a
space where their energy body can actually

just have some chance of repairing.

Wow.

Oh, okay.

So I'm gonna give a very, I, I'm
not gonna go through the whole

details here of exactly what's what.

I don't know how we're gonna publish this.

But this is such valuable information.

But the one thing I'm gonna say
is, um, Bluetooth, AirPods, and

headphones are not desirable.

Please use a wire or just put your, your
device you're playing from on speaker.

That's the probably the most important
safety tip I can give you right now for

everybody listening and using our tools.

Audree: You know, remember how
I lost my AirPods, and then

I haven't bought new ones?

Michael: That is, you saw
where that was in the list.

Audree: No, I didn't.

Michael: Yeah, it was, it was on the, um-

Oh, yeah.

So remember I had the two lists?

I had the, you know, what is the list
of, like, the big things- Mm ... and

what are the minor irritants.

It was actually on the big list.

It was low on the big list, but
it was, it was there, right?

Um, so yeah.

So anyway.

Okay, so anything more...

That's what I wanted to say about wire.

Anyway, so going back, I did an audio
test when I got these, like, these, um,

microphone extenders that we plug into
the microphone base units that we have.

Audree: Oh, it's not gonna be as crisp?

Michael: No, no, no.

It's, it just sounds different.

What do you mean?

It doesn't sound bad, it
just sounds different.

Anyway, that- Mm ... that's the update.

So that's why this- Is it, is it- ... is
the first podcast that sounds different.

Audree: Is it possible to put this
on some sort of, like, instead of

having the wire, just put it...

Michael: I, I think
we're good with the wire.

We're gonna go with that for now.

I'm

Audree: gonna, I'm gonna...

'Cause I th-

Michael: Well, you listen to
what it sounds like, and you

may have a input on this.

Audree: I think for, for podcasts,
isn't it really important to have

the, like the, for the ASMR kinda...

Michael: I don't know.

Maybe people will tell
us what they like better.

Maybe we'll, we'll, people have people
going, "Please go back to the old

standard or figure out another solution."

Audree: Well-

Michael: The other option is we can
upgrade these, these, these cables.

These were bought with the set.

Oh.

But they're not as...

We could get higher end little
mini mics that are connected to

Audree: it.

Michael: I

Audree: think let's get higher
end mini mics and, and then,

and then try it from there.

Michael: Okay.

That can be our experiment for next

Audree: time.

That could be the experiment.

The other thing that I wanna say
is that, um, there i- there was a

difference between what I was wearing.

And when I had that, the Rode thing
on my body, I was wearing a very

thin, uh, natural fiber shirt.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And, you know, most of the time
when I sit in, in the living room, I have

on, like, a thick sweater, and I, and I
attach the thing to the thick sweater, and

that sweater is, um, man-made material.

It's basically plastic.

So there was this buffer between
the, the microphone and my body.

Michael: And there's also more distance.

Audree: Yes.

And more distance.

Interesting.

Michael: Yeah, we haven't
researched that part yet.

Audree: Yeah.

So I think that there's something
in the man-made fibers that

protected my body from the-

Michael: The other way
around, the synthetics.

Audree: The syn- Weirdly.

Sorry.

The synthetics were protecting
my body from, you know...

And I can just go back to, to doing that.

Michael: Yeah.

Like,

Audree: I know that-

Michael: Well, and actually, we don't want
this near your body no matter what, so I

Audree: think that's the main

Michael: conclusion.

Audree: Well, I know that, that
there was a repair needed in my

energetic field, like immediate
repair, but I've also noticed for the

past, like, six months that there's
been this pain on my right side.

Oh.

And it's exactly where-

Michael: Got it

Audree: The microphone was sitting.

And then when the, the she
were saying, "This is what's

going on in Audrey's body,"

you know, I, I- Right.

So- ... put two and two
together at the same time.

It's like, oh, I've been
feeling like this weirdness.

Yeah, we're at time.

I th- I think, um, we're on such a
different, uh, um, topic right now

from where we started this podcast that
I think we should split it into two.

Michael: Mm.

I think we should just close.

It's okay.

We often have fun facts and,
and this is just a fun fact.

Audree: Um-

Michael: And we need to explain
why we sounded differently, so.

Audree: Oh, okay.

Michael: It's all good.

Audree: All right.

Mark-

Michael: Our podcasts
usually have- I'm done.

I'm- Don't have a single topic.

I mean, they, they never do pretty much.

Audree: Well, who knows?

Yeah.

I don't listen to podcasts,
so- Yeah ... I don't know.

Well,

Michael: I know 'cause I'm the one
going through the, uh, you know, the AI

assessment of it and what's in it and what
... And you know, from that trying to come

up with a title when, and we've talked
about five different things and trying

to figure out how to put it all together.

It's an interesting challenge anyway.

All right.

Anything more before we close?

Audree: No.

I just need to be still for a moment, so.

Michael: Okay.

Well, let's take three minutes of
the E2 mantra transmission to bring

us all towards collapsing the wave
function and back towards singularity

or unity or the original intention.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's be

evolutionary.

Creators and Guests

Audree Tara Sahota
Host
Audree Tara Sahota
I was born with mystical gifts I learned to hide from a world that wasn't ready, the weird kid teaching Samadhi at slumber parties while trying to make sense of being different. Almost a decade in formal healing training, a graduate of the Barbara Brennan Collage of Healing. Five years on a Chicago medical team, healing what Western medicine couldn't touch. In 2009 I received Evolutionary Energetics, yet discovering it and embodying it are completely different. I've done the messy work: dissolved my ego, healed my deepest patterns, trusted guidance I couldn't see when everything rational screamed not to. I'm not a guru with all the answers. I'm a real person who happened to be born remembering cosmic truth, walked the uncomfortable path of living it, and learned how to make it practical.
Michael K Sahota
Host
Michael K Sahota
Raised with logic and science, I started as the ultimate skeptic. In my AI PhD program, I discovered that human vision and cognition is controlled hallucination; we literally make up reality. After years in software architecture and management roles leading organizational transformations, the pattern became clear: the consciousness of the leader creates culture, culture creates outcomes. I hit the truth: I was the limiting factor in every change initiative. Meeting Audree transformed everything as our opposite approaches unlocked something extraordinary. Through 100+ leadership trainings, we didn't create this work, we received it, download by download, in an unfolding evolutionary process. I've done the messy work: learned to trust direct experience over logic, followed guidance that made no rational sense. I'm not a guru with all the answers. My passion is the mechanics of creation. I'm the bridge between worlds, translating cosmic downloads into step-by-step practical tools.
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