B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: Okay, here we go.

So I was asking if you want the
short version, the longer version.

I'll give you both.

I'll start with the short version.

So

kissing yourself in the mirror is
the first step, not the last step.

So,

Audree: are you referencing
the Fairy Princess book?

Yes.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And the story?

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

So, or, or, you know, there's always,
or it's echoed in other stories.

Right?

Audree: FYI, I wrote a children's
book called The Fairy Princess.

It's a gorgeous, beautiful book.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so the, the idea there is that when
one realizes that the only one that

can give love to oneself is oneself.

And opening up to the truth of who we are
as source consciousness incarnated, right?

And experiencing that
fully within our being.

That's the kiss in the mirror.

But what I, what I got this morning
where, I mean it started last night,

but is that, that's just the first step.

Like let's imagine you're dating
someone and you kiss, okay, well,

that, that's a beautiful thing.

That's not the end of the relationship.

That's the start.

It's

the

Audree: beginning,

Michael: or maybe even
holding hands is first, right?

Like,

Audree: oh, like we held hands on the bus,

Michael: right?

And then you're dating for a while, right?

And then after a while you make a
commitment that this is what you want.

This relationship is what
you want for yourself.

And so that's the same thing with us
returning to knowing of the truth of what

and who we are as source consciousness
in a permanent state of self-love.

And so.

That moment of the kiss in the
mirror is where we experience this

love of source or love for ourself.

Whatever we want be, we make

Audree: the commitment

Michael: the No, no, no.

It's not the commitment, it's,
it's actually just the first kiss.

It's not the commitment.

This is what I'm getting at.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: That's the whole secret.

We think it's the, oh,
it's the commitment.

'cause we made the kiss
and we're done now.

But that's what I'm saying.

It's actually just the first step
of the next arc of evolution.

That's the whole,

Audree: I'm, I'm just being
reminded because for, I don't know,

15 years or something like that.

I wrote the story in 1999, but it
wasn't published until 2019 and right

at the end, right before publishing,
I changed the end of the story.

It didn't end with the kiss.

Michael: Right.

Right.

It that began the journey when the she, it

Audree: began.

Yes.

Michael: Right?

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so, so let me continue.

So let's, how did I get here?

Well, I was, I was going through,

um, last,

Audree: this is very exciting, by the way.

So

Michael: last night
before bed, I was, I was,

Audree: it's not just the
rearrange of the furniture.

Michael: No, no, it's not.

Audree: Which is fantastic, by the way.

I love it.

Michael: So I was going through some
of the she transcripts and like looking

at, well, where's the working edge of,
of, of what we need to do to unlock?

And

you wanna jump in?

Audree: I just noticed
that there's a circle here.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And there's the Buddha,
by the way, in our four.

And the wood floor is a imprint of Jesus.

Mm-hmm.

Although, apparently,
Michael, you can't see it.

Michael: I've never seen it,

Audree: but do know

Michael: the wheel girl
that, you know, saw it,

Audree: but G and Gino.

Gino saw it 'cause I sent him a photo.

Michael: Well, he's a cantor
at a church, so you know.

Audree: I know.

But he's also my brother and he
is mystical and it's genetic.

So he could see, it's actually when
you could see images and faces in

the floor and trees or in the, in
the trunk of a tree or whatever.

It's, there's, it's called something.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Anyways, what I'm getting
at, Michael, do you see the circle?

Michael: Yeah, I, I feel it.

Audree: That's the shift.

Michael: It's like it all opened up.

Audree: Holy shit.

Michael: Holy shift.

Audree: Holy shift.

Wow.

It's like a pillar of light is going.

Ah.

Mm-hmm.

Do you feel that?

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Whoever buys this house is gonna
be blessed beyond blessings.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Should raise the price.

Michael: Okay, so coming
back to Target Blue here.

Audree: Yes, go ahead.

Sorry, squirrel.

Michael: Well, actually that's the
whole, the thematic of the story.

So I was going through the transcript and
what I was going through is why, like,

so I'm the problem, I'm the solution.

I'm creating the whole thing and
just having this deep awareness of

that, and then why, why am I, or the
aspect of me, this, the of conscious,

why am I choosing to hurt myself?

Why am I choosing to
constantly punish myself?

Like, what is that?

What is that psychotic
behavior within my own being?

Where I'm making those choices again
and again, and again and again.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: So that's what
I went to, to bed with.

And then, so I was up, you know, whatever
in the middle of the night, and then

clearing stuff and then sleeping and
clearing and sleeping and clearing.

And that's when you found me this morning.

And, uh.

And then, so I was lying there and I'm
going, okay, well, like what's going on?

Like, I can, I can just pause and, you
know, this is now on kind of on demand

as I can just go into the love of my own
being, or, you know, my, my experience of

my own being as source, as consciousness.

I can go there.

Like, it's not like I have to,
like, it's just at will now.

So I'm like, okay, well, well
that like, isn't that enough?

And then I'm going like,
oh, well wait a second.

I go there.

But then what happens is I go
elsewhere and I'm going, okay,

well why am I going elsewhere?

Like, what is that?

Audree: Right?

Michael: What?

And so like my whole co awareness,
everything just slowed down.

I'm like, wait, what is that?

Oh, I'm going into distraction.

Oh, I'm going into this thought.

I'm going into that.

And I'm like, oh, there
are all these vows here.

The vows that I made to myself for
myself to experience separation.

So we're back to the, you know,
the 42 ows of the so inception

crystal at a different layer.

I, I, I don't really understand
the mechanics, I'm just telling

you what I'm experiencing.

Audree: I understand.

'cause I've already, I've
already been noticing that.

Michael: Right.

So, so I, so I started systematically
going through that every,

I actually made a list here
'cause I wrote it this Oh good.

' Audree: cause I wanted you a long time
ago to make a list of those 42 binding

points.

Michael: I wasn't trying Anyway,
so what I noticed this morning,

experientially all the choices.

To move out of experience,
the love of one's own being.

So I, I'm at that moment
where I'm in connection.

I'm experiencing the love of my own being
and then noticing every single thing

that happened to me that took me out, and
then canceling and gna the vow for that.

Okay.

So the thoughts

Audree: mm-hmm.

We don't need to,

Michael: right.

Anyway.

Yeah.

So ultimately it comes down to,

Audree: so I stopped Michael from, from.

Saying this, because the first thing that
the listeners are going to do is they're

gonna be like, oh, well I can go do that.

Michael: Yeah.

Okay.

And anyway, so

Audree: that's an and and I, I
wanna say that it's not enough,

Michael: right?

Well, so the thing is, the thing
is this only works when you have an

instantaneous connection on demand.

With the truth of who you are.

When you make that, you make that choice

Audree: to technology.

Michael: And the technology.

Audree: Yeah.

And the technology.

There's, there's specific high vibrational
technology that you need to unlock.

Michael: Oh.

And now you're being
the stickler for stuff.

That's so good.

Welcome.

Welcome to the club.

Audree: I'm not just protecting the work.

Michael: I understand you're protecting

Audree: people.

I'm protecting the people.

Michael: Yeah.

So it's the same thing.

So, so what I got is like
maybe we're overdue to do

our ending self-hatred audio.

I know we talked about it

and it's kind of been a core
theme for the last couple months.

I

Audree: love it.

Michael: But we've never
actually recorded that one.

Audree: I'm a, I'm a yes.

Michael: Right.

And then, yeah,

Audree: before I wasn't.

Now I, I, yeah.

Michael: You get it because that is the,

Audree: well, we needed it to
saturate in a couple weeks of this.

Michael: Well, we, self-hatred has been
the theme for a couple of months now.

Yes.

So, so we just needed to get to.

Where we needed to get to.

Audree: Yeah.

Which is our own unlock.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so that's, that's what's going on.

That's the, that's the, I think that's
the completion of the long story

of, oh wait, there's a bit more.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: And then the next layer I
got, well, why is this even here?

And you know what, partly that
the choice to turn away from the

truth of who we are as the ego of
conscious, to have an experience of

separation and create on our own.

Without that connection.

I mean, that's kind of what the
whole, the whole deal's about.

But what happens is the pain is
so great, we need the distraction.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Right?

And so then what I got was, okay, well,
you know, geez, well, you know, how do

we even tell someone like, oh, well your
A DHD is actually just distraction from

the pain of existence, of experiencing
the, the separation, the lack of the

connection with the truth of who you are.

I mean, it's such a radical jump.

We don't, don't really
wanna say that to anyone.

I'm certainly not making that assertion
here, but what if it were true?

Um, and so what I got is like, oh,
well, it's almost like all human

behavior is the ego of consciousness
distracting and turning us away.

And even what I saw in, you know,
one of our students, you know, who's

very, very distracted, um, and kind of
making other choices, and I was looking

at like, why does this disturb me?

It's like, oh, well, because that's
what I'm doing with my own being.

I'm distracting my own being.

Audree: Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Michael: And all I need
to do is just stay in the,

the awareness and the knowingness
and the truth of what I and who

I am and love for my own being.

So that's why I said the, the kiss
in the mirror is the first step.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Right.

And then, and the relationship
builds from there.

The stabilization, and this ties in
with what bug Juan said about, you

know, if you can stay in that state
for 15 seconds, you're enlightened.

Audree: Right,

Michael: right.

Audree: Because 15 seconds is not a long
time, and it's an extremely long time.

Like one 1002, 1003, 1004, 1005,
1006, 1000, seven, 1000, eight,

1000, nine, 1000, 10, 1000.

11, 1012, 1013, 1014, 1000, 15, 1000.

It's very easy to get distracted

and it is super subtle.

Like even for me when I was
counting, there was like.

Oh, should I continue counting?

What is Michael doing?

Like it's super subtle, the distraction,

Michael: and I think the other
complication is that it's not about

just going to a state of samati without
activity and just like vacating the world.

It's about being in that
state of connection.

The truth of who we are, the love
for one's own being that state of

bliss and joy while inactivity.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Michael: I dunno.

We need a better name.

It's not enlightenment.

It's like enlightenment.

Plus.

Plus.

Audree: Applied enlightenment.

Like applied.

What's that?

Applied Science.

Michael: Well, living.

Living, you know, application.

Application, technology.

Applied enlightenment, right?

Is that what you said?

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: Applied to enlightenment.

Audree: Applied enlightenment.

Michael: And then so what, what
I noticed happening in the state

was that the struggle goes away.

The the lack, the, the trying to achieve
goes away because there's a ready,

like there's no, there's no lack.

There's no non havingness.

Audree: It's a strange state to be in.

Michael: Right.

And then, and that ties in with the
whole, you know, teaching from, you

know, level one leadership training
is, you know, you know, stop, stop

using the red list of power and control
and trying to make things happen.

Audree: Right.

And what do all the, what all the
students, the, the students in the

class say, how am I supposed to lead?

Michael: How am I supposed to get anything
done if I'm not telling people what to do?

Right.

Right.

Like, how am I supposed to manifest if I'm
just staying in the state of inner peace?

And then the answer is, well,
you know, run the experiment.

When you're a state of inner
peace, do you notice how things

just happen for you automatically?

That's the what if it were true?

And when you have those experiences,
which I've had, then it's like, oh, I

Audree: high,

I like you.

Michael: Like, you like
the hair shining right now?

Audree: The sun's hitting my back.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

You're like the, uh, the
star in that movie, Stardust.

Audree: Oh, I love that movie.

Michael: You're not shining
because of our love.

You're shining because
of the love of yourself.

Audree: Hmm.

Yeah.

That's where we get mistaken.

We think we're, we're searching for
love outside of ourselves continuously.

And then you find that miraculous person.

Oh, you are shining too.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: I see the white around era.

White and gold around your head.

And that person's just a mirror for
the love that you have for yourself.

If you can love somebody like that.

And at the same time,
we don't even notice.

We're distracted by loving
the other person when it's

actually we're loving ourselves.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: I like the love
that you have for a pet.

That's why pets are like so magical.

The love is unconditional, and that's
what we're seeking for our own being.

And that's why like there's therapy
dogs because the person's, their, their

nervous system is so hijacked that they
need this animal to give them love.

So their nervous system comes down,

get it.

It's like the same thing with my thesis.

It's all you need is love.

And first the mirror is outside.

You know, first you're, you're seeing
somebody else or you're loving.

You know, your child or your
dog or your cat as an example.

Michael: Well, everyone's seeking love.

Audree: Yeah,

Michael: everyone's seeking
love and this is the whole

structure of ego or
consciousness right there.

Everyone's seeking love, love of God,
love of a partner, love of a pet, you,

you know, and the, this is the whole.

You know, ultimately this is the
whole distortion hijacking, right?

'cause what we're looking for is ex
really, I mean, all those impulses,

all that desire is really the built
in desire that we have internally

within us, our own wake up call to
find that love for our own being.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And all of those
are just distortions and

fractals and kind of, you know.

You know, placeholders or stepping stones.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Um, but they're not
the actual real thing that

Audree: it's like modeling
behavior to learn.

Michael: Right.

And, and it's never complete.

It's just a, it's just a kind of
a, an aspect or an experience.

I remember this.

Um,

there's this, uh, you know, when I
was doing the, the, the, the work

with teams and leadership and so on.

And that was my main focus.

There was this very beautiful
technology called core protocols.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And this isn't part of the
core protocols, but there's something

that, um, Jim and I can't remember her
name, McCarthy said that is kind of

the substrate of, of like something
they're stuck with me very deeply

is, is a want, is a baby, have.

That if you want something, you already
have an aspect of that within your being.

Otherwise you couldn't experience
the want for it, otherwise you

wouldn't know what to want because
you need to have some essence of it.

And that's really, I think the, the
story of this whole journey is there's

that spark, that essence within our
own being that we already have that

just very, very deeply, deeply hidden.

But enough of it emerges, or the power
emerges through all the layers of the

ego of consciousness, all the distortion,
all the vows and contracts, all of that.

And we have this, this,
this pull towards love.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: That's why it's
this universal thing.

It's this universal thing.

'cause it's actually the spark of, towards
consciousness within our own being.

I, I, I'm just saying this
for the first time and this is

what's just coming to me now.

And so we already have that.

And that is the pull and the, the.

The, the structure we've created
for ourselves, there's no ego

consciousness doing this to us.

The structure we created for ourselves
to keep us away from that so we could

create on our own as ego consciousness
is that we distract ourselves and we

create all these other things that take
us away from what it actually really is.

That the poll is, again,
it's back to distraction.

Audree: You know what the guides
told me very, very long time ago.

Michael: Oh, this is the magic trick.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: It's like, this
is the big magic trick.

It's like the truth of who we are
is right there the whole time.

Like a, like a, like a, an
illusionist or a magician on stage.

Mm-hmm.

Like the, everything is there.

Right there.

That's

Audree: why every,

Michael: but they say, look over here.

Look over here.

And we've spent our whole
life looking over here.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: And following
this whole structure.

Audree: Do you wanna know why?

You know what the guides told me?

I, I wrote about it in the book and
I saw that that story was taken out.

I'll tell it here.

I spent five days in so much anger, like
just insane amount of anger and I couldn't

do anything to get myself out of it.

And it was, that was the first moment
that I contacted, Hey Owen, Barbara

Brennans Uhhuh, the guide that spoke
through her, who she channeled.

And I was just like, I need
help because I, it's day five.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm super fucking angry.

Just insanely angry.

And I wanted to know why is humanity
in so much pain and suffering?

Like why, what is this?

This is not okay.

Why am I in so much pain and suffering?

And this is after I.

I'm already a healer.

I already went through Barbara
Brennan six years and two years

at Energy Touch School, whatever,
like, and I'm still in this place

and Ha.

Just, that's when Hae
told me what was going on.

Mm-hmm.

And then he said,

did you ever notice in those moments.

When you move from separation and pain
and suffering into in back, into unity.

At the time I didn't, I don't
know if he called it source

consciousness, he might have,

but he said, when you're in that
state of union, did you ever notice

how much gratitude you have for
that feeling and that higher state

of consciousness that complete.

Letting go.

There's no more pain and suffering, and
you're just in this beautiful state.

There's this gratitude
that comes with it, like,

Michael: mm-hmm.

Oh,

Audree: without knowing separation,
without having the pain and suffering.

There's no gratitude for knowing
the truth of what and who you are,

and as we've discovered in our
work, gratitude amplifies the state,

that high vibrational frequency,
it's like you can and you begin to

harness and integrate even stronger.

State, you pull it in almost.

Michael: It anchors in your being.

I'm not gonna know the mechanics
of what it actually does, but yeah.

Audree: What,

Michael: well, it's just so easy

to to, to, you know, kind of, you know,
really just work on whatever's next and

not really recognize the profoundness
of the progression in the journey.

Like, I'm, I'm just kind of saying, well,
you know, you know, the table stakes now

are, well, I could go into, go into state.

You know, just, just by that will,
just by recognizing and remembering

the truth of who I am, which I could
never do before for the entire,

I don't know how old I am now.

I'd have to do math, but, you
know, 50 plus years of my life.

Right.

Like, I've never been able to do that.

Right.

And you know, it's, it's, I remember
like months of it being like this kind of

learning and, and kind of understanding
the mechanism of letting go of the mind.

Completely to just go into experiencing
that state and, and how for many months

now, I mean weeks, months, I don't
know how long it's been, this kind of

place of, you know, moving from
having a recognition of it to being

able to, to stabilize into it.

So I guess I'm not stabilizing, but
I'm, I'm able to get there through

intention when I become aware, which
I think is the, the big shift that

I, I'd probably remark on right now.

It's kinda like the, you know,
the baseline assumption of the

story onto the next thing, right?

Where that in itself is,
is really quite profound.

And I think this ties in with what
the, the, she said about the whole

structure of the journey is that we
have self-mastery, that we've gone

through a structure or process enough
that it just becomes automatic.

And I think that's what's going on.

It's not that it's like suddenly this
suddenly happened to me and I got

gifted it, or that's not what happened.

It's that because I've been intentionally
making that choice to let go and allow my

being to open into the expansive truth of
what and who I am as source consciousness

and love my own, the love of my own being.

I, I'd done that enough.

I'd gone on that kinda that, you know.

We've never done that like 5,000 times.

So,

Audree: well, the, she had been very
clear that it's no longer just, uh, you

know, like a happening or, uh, you know,
it'll just inevitably happen to somebody.

While evolution is
inevitable, there are there.

The requirement is that you
consciously make the choice to

evolve and then you do the work.

Michael: I think what it's get
what the changes is self-mastery.

To achieve what we're achieving
is getting easier and easier.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: However, it
still requires the effort.

Audree: Exactly.

It

Michael: still requires the
knowledge because we, we need a

reprogramming of our awareness.

Audree: Well, like six weeks ago,
they said, because we've been

continuously choosing to evolve.

They said that specifically.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Because we've been choosing
to evolve the, the boon, the, the

boon, the reward has been there.

Michael: Well, the
outcome for that activity.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Through the
mechanics of creation.

It's not like it's being
gifted even to ourselves.

It's just that that's the,
the, the mechanical outcome.

Audree: Well, it's inevitable, yet
you still have to put in the effort.

You still have to make the tr, you can't

Michael: just, I think it's so
paradoxical when we get down to it.

Audree: The other thing is, is
that even while you were talking

this whole entire time, what
was coming through was that like

even though mystics and people have
been doing this work for a very,

very long time, it wasn't until.

Last year when the deviation ended, that
the unlocks were greater impermanent.

And then if you look at, even if you
look at the patterns of the cycles

in nature, like planetary alignments.

Portals that have been opened, um,
the, the solar system and like, what's

going on with the sun, what's going on
with, um, the solar system in, in its

position, moving towards Galactic Center.

Like all of these things are
also part of this process, which

means one thing, it's that.

It's taken years, if not thousands of
years to pull us in this direction.

So not only is it continuous, um,
intentional choice to evolve, it's

also been the the cycles of nature that
have been in support of this evolution.

And so even, you know, you can say, oh,
well why hasn't this, you know, I've

been working so hard, da da, da, da.

And it's like, no, it's, it's like
there's been a, a slow progression

towards the, the shift in consciousness.

It has to be this way.

Michael: I'm just reflecting, um, when you
talked about the, the deviation ending, I

was just thinking through the last year.

'cause we had our one year
anniversary with the she.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Um,

Michael: like a day or two ago?

I don't,

Audree: two days.

I think it's one year.

Michael: No, three days ago

Audree: and three days ago.

If you look at when, when the
deviation ended last year,

wasn't it the 21st or something?

Uh, April 21st.

Michael: I'll check.

So, so that's what I wanted to,
to just touch base and go into.

Which is that?

Oh, here we are.

Key dates and timeline.

Uh, April 21st, end of the deviation.

So that, that

Audree: is 2025.

Michael: Yeah, 2025.

So that,

Audree: that, and what day is today?

Michael: April 21st.

Yeah,

Audree: it's exactly,

Michael: yeah,

Audree: it's ex.

Hold on, honey.

It's exactly one year.

Michael: Yeah.

So what

Audree: do you feel that

Michael: Uhhuh?

Audree: Holy shit.

Literally, holy

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: The guides are saying
the spark of a new phase.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: I can hear them.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: It is the spark of a new phase.

I don't know how they say it, but

they're saying it now.

Michael: Yeah,

Audree: they're super excited.

Yeah.

That's why we're sitting
in this circle right now.

Michael: Uhhuh

Audree: ho.

I keep saying,

what does Robin say to Batman?

Michael: Holy, whatever.

I don't know.

Audree: Holy pillar of light.

Batman.

Look at Calie Buddha.

Yeah.

Jesus.

What's over here?

The Carl Young book,

Michael: Uhhuh.

Audree: Wow.

This living room is extraordinary.

Wow.

I like

Michael: what you did with
putting those tables together.

It looks a lot better.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Well done.

Anyway, so, so going back to, to what I
was saying is when I look back over this

last year that, um, there were so many.

Key structures and MEChA you, this
did a whole bunch of stuff, right.

The planets and energies mm-hmm.

And blah, blah, blah.

Mm-hmm.

But looking at what's happened over
last year, there've been so many

structures of creation that have changed
as the, the kind of, the ending of

the deviation that April 21st, last
year, 2025 was the start of the end.

Audree: Yep.

Michael: It was actually the
first, like the first kind of lock

Audree: It was the kiss.

Michael: Yeah.

And so what I see is that
there've been a series of unlock.

Of different aspects of creation
that, uh, you know, of the Devi light

codes that were holding the entire
structure of the deviated deviation

and the Igor consciousness in place.

And that it's this, this kind of
progressive unraveling and dissolving

of these, these distortions and in, in
so many deep aspects of creation that

we we're not even gonna go into 'cause
and we're never gonna teach anyone

'cause it doesn't even make sense.

Because it's not needed.

I mean, it's just not needed, right?

Like so much of it,

Audree: well, the
journey's only been for us.

Michael: Well, it's been for us, but it's
also been like there's been this, these

deep unlocks of, of the entire structure.

So while it feels, for me, this is kind
of my thing is like that April 21st, 2025

was the start of the end of the deviation.

And it feels like today we're
arriving at the end of the end of

the deviation as as a, and if you
think about life, life is a process.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: It's not like a one and
done and Shazam that's happened.

It's a constant evolutionary process.

And so it feels like this year
has been that evolutionary

process of the restructuring
of the mechanics of creation.

And the unraveling of the deviation.

I don't know.

That's what I'm getting right now.

Audree: Well, I also wanna say, if
you look at, so also during this time,

the beginning of 2026, there's all
these planetary alignments happening.

I'm not an astrologist.

I, I just watch other people, like
on YouTube and stuff, they talk

about this, but it's like Uranus.

Or Uranus, not Uranus.

Michael: We're never
gonna be past that one.

Back to back to grade four,

Audree: like BEUs and, but Ed, she said
Anus, Uranus, I guess they changed it.

Uranus, um, is moving out of some
planet right now and it's moving into

Gemini, which is BA is your sign.

Um, this is, uh, when one planet,
this planet has been in, this

si in one sign for, I don't
know, 25 years, 28 year cycle.

It's a very slow moving planet.

'cause I think it's in, is it the
outer edges of the solar system?

It's

Michael: one of the outer ones, yeah.

Audree: Yeah.

So it would be a longer, a longer span
of time that's moving from one planetary.

I, you know,

Michael: constellation?

Audree: Yeah.

Constellation to another.

I don't know what it is.

Yeah.

But you said you don't

Michael: really know.

Audree: I don't really know.

Um,

the reason why I watch it is because
I'm very aware of the consciousness of

every planet and it's impact because
we're, we are part of the solar system.

You know, people might say, oh, astrology
is hocus pocus, or woo woo, or whatever.

But you have to understand that
we're part of a larger system

and everything impacts us.

You know, the Native Americans,
which I've been a like really, um,

strangely, probably because of past
lives since I was a little kid.

The Native Americans like respected
the consciousness of everything

around them, including the animals.

Like they would connect, the hunter would
connect to the, the, the consciousness

of the deer before it shot the, you
know, before it killed the deer.

It honored the, the sacrifice of the deer
before it ate the meat, like it was like.

The Native American tradition is
very imbued and aware of the impact

of everything and the consciousness
of everything around them.

And so while people might think that
astrology is hocus pocus or woo woo, we

are deeply impacted by the energies of
every single planet in this solar system.

That is, that is a fact.

It's not something that's just, you know,
some indigenous culture because they

didn't understand science, made it up, you
could feel it, you're, you know, whatever.

Um, so what I'm getting down
to is that there are, there's,

there's support of nature.

That's what Maharishi always
said, we are supported by nature

because we are part of it.

It's like everything around us
is supporting this evolution

in our consciousness.

And when we say evolution of
consciousness, I want to be

very clear for people that.

What we're talking about here is not just
perceptions or thoughts or behaviors.

We're talking about an
evolution of our entire being.

That's, that's why what in our work,
we look at things energetically.

We look at things psychologically.

We look at things physically
because it's all being impacted.

So it's not just a evolution of
our consciousness, psychologically,

it's an evolution in our body.

That means physical, physical healing.

Michael: That means psychological safety.

That means unlocking the ability
of the brain to function at a

level it never could before.

I love being smarter.

It feels so good.

Audree: Of course you do.

And I love being able to heal my body.

Michael: Yeah.

So I think, you know, I, I'm this
huge, you know, I mean, I grew up

in a household of science, so you
know, anyone who talks about anything

other than science is totally a
wackadoodle and obviously insane.

Without even considering
any other possibilities.

So that's the environment I grew up in.

So I've always been very leery
of anything like around astrology

or planets or anything like that.

And so, however, I'm as a student of
science and direct experience of reality,

and I think for me, I've had many, many
experiences of, of specific planetary

effects and impacts and have studied
human design and have seen the impact of.

Certain planets entering certain
things and certain gates activating

and experiencing that within my
own being, those activations.

So I've had those experiences, but
I think what really locked it in for

me is noticing how very deliberately
on our evolutionary journey that the,

she's been taking us through our, our,
what they call our training program.

You were in a training program,
they'd say again and again.

Anyway.

So, um, what, every time that there's a
place where there's this deep letting go.

Um, is always, always, they said,

Audree: if you're gonna imitate
them, you should just let them talk.

Michael: Yeah.

Okay.

Always, always at a, uh,
at a new moon, right?

Audree: Oh, we just had a new moon.

Michael: Yeah, we had it, Carrie, it, it,
I noticed that and it's like, oh, okay.

New Moon.

Okay.

Really this is the time to let go.

And just really that awareness of own,
my own being consciously being aware of

the structure of the training program,
able to harness that at a deeper level.

Because I was no longer
in resistance to it.

I was embracing it, so, so that's
what I wanna say about planets.

The other thing I wanna say about planets
is that Uranus, this is what it says.

I just looked up

Audree: Uranus, not my anus.

Michael: You know, your anus
literally opens up the mutation

arc of the sleeping phoenix.

That the sleeping phoenix, the
sleeping Phoenix completes.

So the cross of the sleeping phoenix that
opens in 2027 is caused by your Uranus.

Audree: Uranus,

Michael: yes.

The planet that begins with the letter U.

That shall be a name.

Planet U, we'll call it Planet U.

Planet Planet.

Audree: Planet U,

Michael: planet U.

But here, you know, fun thing,

Audree: fun fact,

Michael: fun fact.

What's really interesting about
mm-hmm Planet U is that the, it

spins in a completely different
direction than all the other planet.

Audree: Whoa.

Michael: Yeah.

So it's the wild card energetically
that's shifting everything

up within the solar system.

Audree: Holy shit.

Michael: Did do you not know that?

Audree: No,

Michael: no.

I learned that through human design
that, that it actually rotates in a

completely different direction and
that's what create makes it like this

wild card that changes everything.

Audree: So even if you think of it
physically, if like if you're in a pool.

Yeah.

And we used to do this when we were kids.

We'd get like five people, you'd
go to a circle, walk in a circle

in the pool, and it would create
a, a vortex, a spinning vortex.

Yeah.

And then we would turn around
and try to walk the other way.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: That's what Uranus is doing.

I never did that.

Is doing, did that

Michael: you try to walk the other way?

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Oh, I didn't know that,

Audree: that, that was the whole point.

Michael: Oh, okay.

I didn't

Audree: just try to walk the other way.

Michael: Did you make that up?

I've never experienced that.

Audree: Yeah.

That's what we used to do.

Michael: No.

Did you make that up?

Audree: I don't know.

Michael: I think you made that up

Audree: probably.

Maybe for It was

Michael: otherwise I would've known it

Audree: for this point in time.

Michael: Yeah,

Audree: for right now to
understand what Uranus is doing,

Michael: so, so it's got
an axial tilt of 97.8

degrees.

It essentially rolls on its side.

So it's tip so far it's pos
roughly point on the orbital plane.

So like earth points more or
less, you know, pointing up and

down, up and down, up and down
in, as we rotate around the earth,

planet u almost like points directly
in plain and that's why it, um,

no other planet comes close.

Right.

All the other planets are maybe
I'm, I'm 23 degrees and that's

Audree: it.

I wonder what the
gravitational pull of that is.

Oh, okay.

In relationship to the solar system,

Michael: it also rotates east to west.

Right.

Only Venus and Planet U rotate retrograde.

The other six go pro grade, right?

Yeah.

Audree: So what is Uranus
entering into Gemini, planet U?

Planet U entering into Gemini mean?

Michael: I don't know.

Audree: Look it up.

And where was it before?

So there's something very
fascinating going on.

Wait, what's the question?

Like I said,

Michael: what does

Audree: Uranus moving into Gemini
and where was it beforehand and

what does that, what does that mean?

While you're looking that
up, I'll just talk like I.

I find it fascinating and at the
same time it's just like, it's,

there's so much information with
astrology that I don't really,

Michael: well, I was
gonna say, hello people.

Welcome to our world.

This is how it goes is like there's a,
this is how, this is how the universe

communicates or how we understand
the flow creation is that there's

a spontaneous insight we go into.

You know, tool, like I'm using a,
an AI tool right now to pull up the

data very, very quickly and get a
synthesized output to go access it.

And from that we get the
next layer of meaning.

So, um,

Audree: we also have to, um, then
scan and check guidance to see

what's true and what's not true.

Yeah.

'cause there's a lot of untruth out there.

And AI we already know is not.

Michael: It says, it says, uh, plan that
you enter as Gemini for an extended stand.

April 25.

Audree: Yeah, which is in

Michael: four days.

Audree: Four days.

And the other thing, oh

Michael: wait, we just gave away
what day this podcast is, and

everyone knows there's about a two
week delay, but getting podcasts,

Audree: that's okay.

So the other thing that's really
interesting is that, um, because

these shifts are so great.

That the impact, so this is interesting.

The impact of the shift doesn't
happen for another month.

In the meantime, all the lessons learned
from the past 25 to 28 years where

Year Planet U was in another sign.

We learn all those lessons, but the.

Result of learning those lessons
doesn't happen until it changes.

It's changes into another sign.

Okay,

Michael: so the last time this
shift happened was 1941 to 1949.

So most people live

Audree: Oh, world War ii.

Michael: Yeah.

Most people live have never
experienced, so the archetypal read

is this, planet U is the disruptor.

Sudden change, rebellion, innovation,
breakthrough, unconventional.

Gemini is the Mercury ruled air sign of
mind, language, media, short distance

communication, learning, and duality.

Put them together and astrologists
predict roughly this disruption in

how we think, connect and engage.

And it talks about deep
fakes and digital twinning.

Make it hard to tell
what's real collapsing.

Trust in legacy corporate media.

And a heyday for independent
podcast and journalists.

Oh, we're a independent podcaster.

There we go.

Um, Geminis in here, in doula also
points to the intensified polarization,

Audree: slow down

Michael: community, splitting
along differing thought lines,

Audree: right?

So there's a gonna, there's also
a greater pull between people who

are purifying and, and evolving,
and people who are not evolving.

And even though she said this last
year, they said that the people

who are choosing not to evolve will
actually drop their consciousness

and their vibration even lower.

Like it's almost like, you know, the
cream is rising to the top and the

Michael: Yeah.

So the other thing going on is,
uh, during this transit plan, you

will form a repeating series of
trines with Pluto and Aquarius.

And we just entered the
equation of Aquarius.

Mm-hmm.

Like a month ago or something.

Yeah.

So, um, the last Uranus of Planet
Ute, Pluto trine was 1921 to 1923.

Right?

So these are considered harmonious.

So many talary.

This is constructive channel
for disruption, a century scale

opening for technology and social
reinvention rather than just chaos.

Audree: Uh, if you could think
about the twenties, that was it,

the 1920s, the early twenties,

Michael: there was a huge
breakthrough in consciousness, right?

Audree: There was,

Michael: right.

Audree: I mean, that was that
when thinking rage, you look at

even, even the coming up to that,
in the late 18 hundreds, there

was the Theosophical Society.

There, I mean, there were all these
kind of like, um, Eastern philosophies

that were coming into Western awareness.

Yeah.

And, and embracing that.

Michael: Right.

So it's the time

Audree: mm-hmm.

Michael: For disruption.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: And thought.

Audree: Yeah.

Well,

Michael: well,

Audree: za

Michael: za,

Audree: I really love this house.

Michael: Okay, we're at 47 minutes
here, so anything more that you

feel is important to complete?

Audree: Well, I think the
evidence is very, very clear

and regardless of having
the, the external evidence.

Internally, what is this
journey really about?

I mean, we always say, if it's not gonna
improve your life, what's the point?

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And I think, I think
we can clearly understand that

there's a way out,

there's a way out of pain
and suffering if you choose.

That's the first thing you have
to say Yes to your own being.

And I guess it's going back
to kissing yourself in the

mirror is just the beginning.

You have to choose to
love yourself enough.

You don't need to know how to do it.

You just need to love yourself
enough to say, you know what?

Enough is enough.

I'm not, I'm not gonna do this anymore.

Michael: Well, the, the teaching
that that we have, that I've

discovered, it's not that the teacher
will appear when you're ready.

It's the teachers already there
waiting for you, ready for you.

And when you, you are ready, you
actually see the te, you notice

the teacher's actually there,
but the teacher's already there.

The, the whole universe is set
up ready for you to make a change

Audree: with eyes to
see, and ears to hear.

Michael: Yeah.

So I wanted to actually talk about what
somebody may have already noticed or

many listeners may already noticed.

My question is for the listeners,
what did you notice didn't happen and

think about the audio signal itself.

Audree: What happened?

Michael: So what happened is I'm no longer
in the, what I call the squeaky chair.

Audree: Oh yeah.

Michael: There's the chairs that I love
dearly these, what are they called?

Audree: They're me Van Ro chairs.

Michael: Yeah.

Me, van RO chairs.

Yeah.

Very, very, very, uh, that I, that has
been kind of my go-to for years now.

My journey.

And, um,

Audree: the, the Barcelona chair.

The

Michael: Barcelona style.

Audree: Yeah.

They were actually created
for the Barcelona Worlds Fair.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

Extraordinary chairs.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: However, they did have
the side effect where when I move

my body even slightly, they go, so

Audree: they squeak.

Michael: They squeak.

Yeah.

So this que

Audree: Yeah, because
they've been, uh, re uh.

Reupholstered

Michael: I, I don't know.

Audree: Instead of leather, plastic,

Michael: you may notice and be
enjoying right now is that there

hasn't been any squeaking at all
because I'm in a different chair.

'cause we reconfigured the
living room, so this actually

feels much more quiet and still,

Audree: and it formed a pillar of like
such a high vibrational frequency.

See, I'm like blown away.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Like literally blown away.

Michael: So that's my, my slice of life.

Fun fact.

I wanted to share.

I'm complete.

Audree: Very good.

Michael: This is where you think
about what you're gonna say or

are you gonna say you're complete
to let me know you're complete.

Audree: Oh, so sorry.

Michael: Sometimes we have

Audree: to explain the

Michael: protocol.

Audree: The guides.

The guides are talking.

Uh, we're gonna do a
channeling after this.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: Yeah.

Um.

Michael: Whew.

Yeah.

Audree: I'm profoundly grateful.

I think the guides say even when
it's hopeless and you still choose.

Mm-hmm.

That's the real, yes.

Michael: Yeah.

Feels like the end of
the journey right now.

Audree: I think it's just the beginning.

Michael: Well, it's the
end of the beginning.

That's the paradoxic creation.

Audree: It's the end of
the world as you know it.

Michael: Thank goodness,

Audree: and happy fun.

Michael: Yes, I sure do.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: It is the end of
the world as I know it.

Audree: I believe in miracles.

Hmm.

Michael: Okay.

Ready for the three minutes?

Audree: Yeah, I am.

Michael: Okay.

We'll take three minutes
of the E two mantra.

Audree: Transmission.

Michael: Yes.

To just tune into the frequency.

And that's the view from here.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's be evolutionary.