B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Speaker: Audree:

So you were talking about visible
coherence through the quantum field,

Speaker 2: right?

So, so

Speaker: while you were getting tea?

Speaker 2: Yeah.

So while I was, I was waiting for the
kettle to boil this morning and I'm

sitting in the kitchen, um, because

Speaker: minding your own business.

Speaker 2: Well, my whole, my
whole field is, is tuning into

downloads around coherence.

So that information just came in.

And so the information came in
as a question, which is, oh,

Speaker: hold on, hold on.

Just slow down 'cause you're
kind of slurring your words.

Speaker 2: No, I, I'm very excited.

Speaker: I I understand.

That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2: There's a lot of
energy going through right now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I'll begin again.

So there's a lot of information
coming in around coherence.

Coherence of a human being, which
is primarily what we've been

looking at as a way to understand.

A shift of consciousness.

And what happened is I began to be,
I just spontaneously was curious.

I said, well, you know, what
about, what about flocks of birds?

Things like that.

What about,

Speaker: so hold on, go back for a minute.

'cause we've, so what we've been doing
is we've been kinda researching and

contemplating, um, and, and we've
been in this evolutionary process and

the evolution of humanity is moving.

Is moving through a
shift of consciousness.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Speaker: Into unity consciousness.

Speaker 2: Yes.

This is the global energetic field that's
causing the evolution of, of humanity.

Yes.

Speaker: And this is coherence now.

It is not the coherence of
sci-fi movies because we still

retain our individualization.

Speaker 2: Yes.

' Speaker: cause our retaining our
individualization is very important.

Speaker 2: It's actually critical
'cause we're here to be unique.

Speaker: Yes,

Speaker 2: we're all unique.

That's what human design shows.

We're actually here to fulfill.

Our unique potential operating
uniquely in harmony with others.

That's the yes, that's the glitch.

Speaker: That's the
unity consciousness part.

Is that

Speaker 2: the harmony part?

Speaker: The harmony part.

Right.

We're not in survival mode.

We are in

Speaker 2: co-creation.

Speaker: Co-creation.

Okay.

Speaker 2: So co-creation is actually
a better word than harmony, I think

in terms of what you described,

Speaker: I like, well 'cause it's,

Speaker 2: we're here in
co-creation with others.

Yes.

Which is we are creating what
we're creating with others.

To have greater creation and,

Speaker: and part of the
co-creation is to establish impact.

Of everything around us.

That's the unity part.

Speaker 2: Oh, and it, and actually
we see this with human design is we're

not designed to function by ourselves.

We're defined to function with the other.

Yes.

So, so the, so the coherence is we're
living as we're designed to function

as an independent unit functioning.

And we understand that there's an
interrelatedness and necessity of working

with the other, and we're harnessing
that for the co-creative process.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

And it's reflective of returning
back into balance between the

masculine and feminine aspects of
our being in order to end conflict,

Speaker 2: right?

So sometimes we lead, sometimes we follow.

We're just ready to be in the
flow of creation of whatever.

Is needed in that moment for whatever
it is we're inspired to create.

Speaker: Right?

And while and when the, the egoic
consciousness begins to transmute, heal,

and transform, the ego doesn't go away.

The ego just transmutes and
transforms into, into a unified.

Uh, consciousness.

It understands the balance.

It understands, you know,
working in co-creation.

It understands its own nature,
and it, and it releases all

of those destructive patterns.

Mm-hmm.

That we call within the deviation
itself, it ends separation.

It ends the illusion of separation.

Speaker 2: Right?

So this is what we call creator
consciousness or becoming

Speaker: Yeah,

Speaker 2: a creator God, if you know
that that's kind of loaded language, but

Speaker: that's what the ego of
consciousness turns back into.

Its original nature, which
is creator consciousness.

'cause it's part of the ability
for us to create reality.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

So this is what we're stepping into now.

Um.

Audrey and I in our journey and what
is, is, is really coming for all

Speaker: of, okay, so
that's the best story

Speaker 2: all of humanity.

Yeah.

Speaker: Back to our regular programming.

So,

Speaker 2: well, there's something
more I wanted to say about that

since we're on the topic, which is
we still have individuation and we

still create what we want to create.

The point is that we do it
in a very different way.

We do it in a high frequency way
with a knowingness and understanding

the mechanics of creation that
very naturally let us understand,

well, if I want to create this.

Wow.

It's gonna really be much more
effective if I do it with these other

people because they have pieces of
the puzzle that I don't have within my

human design, within my incarnation.

And because all the resistance to that
giving or taking support or functioning

as a, as a larger collective is gone.

There's just this smooth flow.

So we actually get what we want in
a way that we never could when we

were a separate ego of consciousness,

Speaker: for example.

If you suddenly were inspired to create
a piece of music, you would actually be

understanding, oh, I need this person
and this person and this person to

collaborate with and co-create with.

It's not an issue of who owns the
music or you know, who's doing

this or who's doing that, or there
there's no sense of hierarchy.

And not only that, there's joy in
that co-creation and there is a, um.

There's a contemplation of how will this
piece of music impact all of society?

You know, there wouldn't be
this, you know, there would be an

understanding of what would cause
harm and what wouldn't cause harm.

Mm-hmm.

And there would be, uh,
selective of the harmonics.

There would be a selective of the
frequency or the hurts, or how it's

recorded, how it's distributed to.

As, as a way of, of improving.

Mm-hmm.

All of society not harming anything.

Speaker 2: Right?

Well, there are all these stories
of these, you know, these rock

bands where the band's together
and they're creating this amazing

music and everything's happening.

And then one member goes,
oh, I am the great one.

I'm gonna go do my own solo work.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker 2: And they find out it doesn't
really work out quite the way they wanted

to, and then they come back to the band.

Right.

Right.

Or, because

Speaker: there's usually an evil
producer involved that's like whispering

in their air, Hey, you can be solo.

We can make a lot of money over here.

Speaker 2: Moved me.

Yeah,

Speaker: yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 2: yeah.

Right.

So back to Scar City,

Speaker: all that's not happening anymore.

Speaker 2: Well, it even reminds me of,
we saw that movie about Elton John, where,

Speaker: oh my God,

Speaker 2: he could write all the
music, but he only, it only worked

when he was in partnership with the
guy who was coming up with the lyric.

Speaker: Exactly

Speaker 2: right.

The guy came with the lyrics, he came
with the music and then it was gold.

Speaker: Yeah,

Speaker 2: right.

But he

Speaker: didn't, but without each
other they were, they weren't as good.

Speaker 2: They were
nothing without each other.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: They were

Speaker: incomplete and, and that
one producer was trying to, um.

Seduce him and pull him away
from, from the writer guy.

Mm-hmm.

And filling him with drugs and
weakening Elton John completely.

So he couldn't function anymore.

So that producer guy had all the control
and took control of his estate and oh

my God, we see it all over the place.

Right.

Thank God Elton John figured it out.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Really proud of him.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

So.

Okay.

Speaker: What a great story.

Speaker 2: That was a great story.

Speaker: Oh my god.

Such a great story of evolution.

Okay.

Speaker 2: Alright.

Back to the original problem.

So, so, so let's go back to the, the,
the premise of this whole conversation.

Speaker: Okay.

You

Speaker 2: were

Speaker: standing in the kitchen
waiting for the kettle to boil.

Speaker 2: Yes.

And

Speaker: picture this,

Speaker 2: I was

Speaker: pig on a farm.

Speaker 2: I was tuning into coherence.

And I, and I was just getting the,
you know, spontaneous, I mean,

this is how, you know, it's a spon.

You're not trying to figure it out.

It's just a, a guided message.

There's a spontaneous
download of information,

Speaker: right.

You're not trying to think,
think about solve a problem

Speaker 2: or, yeah.

Or the spontaneous question or, and so,
so because I have my phone with me, I,

it's actually in my portable computer.

I love it.

So I, so I go to load and I go, Hey.

You know, this is what I'm looking for.

I'm looking for examples of coherence
in nature inter within, within a species

as a whole or within a group of a
species where they're operating together

and they give it examples of a, of a.

Of a wolf pack or orcas hunting,
or I gave it example of an ant

colony, how it functions together.

Like I don't know the details of
this stuff, I just know that it

kind of sort of exists somewhere.

And so I gave it some
ex, I'm getting excited.

Mm-hmm.

So I gave it these examples and then
it came back with this beautiful list

and it said, oh, and then, you know, I
gotta caution, you hear a lot of this is

speculative and none of this is proven by
science and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I say, okay, great.

Give me a table.

Gimme a table, which shows what
the obser observation is and

what science can actually prove
and rate science from one to 10.

And then I saw, oh, science can only reach
like a level of six for explaining these

coherence effects in a school of fish.

Mm-hmm.

Where they turn faster than they can
possibly, they a turn at the exact

same time, faster they can possibly
communicate through signaling or all

these other kind of, and same thing
with, you know, birds and so on.

Birds.

Speaker: Yeah.

That

Speaker 2: example.

So it's very obvious.

So what I'm looking at is like
everyone who walks outta their house

and sees the birds flying together
is actually seeing the coherence

that exists in nature that exists in.

Animals that are in coherent state,
they're not in the deviated state we're

in as humans and they're operating
coherence around us all the time.

And we, we can see it.

Like we look at the, I mean
I've done this so many times.

I looked at the flock of birds and
just watched it and it's mesmerizing.

'cause what we're tuning into and, and
is an awareness within our own being.

Within our own being of the
coherence potential that is

sitting there waiting for us.

Which is this evolution of
consciousness, this evolution of the,

the truth of what and who we are.

And so there was this beautiful
understanding that the problem

with science is that there's just
such an unwillingness to accept

the, even the, the premise,

Speaker: it's a blatant disregard.

This,

Speaker 2: they disregard the data.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker 2: Why instead of going
saying, oh, we've observed this,

therefore there's some sort of quantum
effect we can't measure right now.

That is the conclusion.

Let's move on with it Now, with
understanding their quantum effects

in interspecies communication,
which we cannot measure and we're

observing exists, like if that
was the scientific conclusion,

science would be getting an A plus.

Right now, science is getting an f.

Speaker: A big fat f.

A

Speaker 2: big fat F 'cause it's failing.

It is failing to give us an accurate
understanding and possibility of

understanding what our world is and
denying the truth that's there in nature,

denying the truth that there in us

Speaker: that's crazy.

Speaker 2: That is the deviation, that is
our shared creation here in the deviation.

Speaker: That is why we talk about.

Truth and half truths.

We've been denied truth.

We've been given half truths.

We believe things that are told
to us, that science tells us

this is how the world exists.

Yet even science is disregarding,
you know what's in front of us.

Disregarding data.

Speaker 2: Oh,

Speaker: and giving us
half truths and the word.

That's why we come back to the
word believe has the word lie,

right in the flipping center of it.

Okay.

Just to give you a hint.

That what you are believing
is actually a lie.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

You know what?

I just got

Speaker: eyes to see.

Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2: We were talking about
people moving from belief into direct

experience and trusting their own
direct experience of what they're

experiencing within their physiology.

Mm-hmm.

As a way to move beyond of how do
I tell if it's true or not, right?

Mm-hmm.

And running their own experiments
with the tools and so on.

And what I, I, I've been
figuring out how to explain.

The trap of science and, and
I say this as someone who was

born in a household of science.

My father had two PhDs.

I'm saying this someone who,

Speaker: as a scientist,

Speaker 2: I'm saying this, somebody
who has an engineering degree.

I'm saying this, someone who has a
master's in computer science and did half

a PhD in computer science and artificial
intelligence as a a, a, a deep, you know.

Deeply, deeply embedded in what science
is and what science means, and, and deep

allegiance to science to say, letting go
of the belief that science will save me.

And that science has all the
answers and science is correct,

I'd say is probably one of the most
fundamental shifts in my journey.

When I made that distinction
of the limitation of science,

my whole journey of evolution
unfolded at a much more rapid way.

Way.

And what I can say here is that
for anyone listening, if you

strongly believe in science.

And you are gonna wait for science to
have the answer, you are going to miss out

on this stage of evolution of humanity.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker 2: And you're
gonna get return to source.

Like that's just it.

Because if you are choosing to pledge
your allegiance to the distorted thought

forms embedded in science today, you
are committing your allegiance to.

Uh, a purification process
that needs to not be purified.

Your committee, your leads
to the non purification, and

Speaker: it's a whole entire
industry because science is not just

electricity or how things function or
chemistry, it's also medical science.

I mean, it's pervasive.

Speaker 2: This is pervasive.

Yes, this is pervasive.

And so what we're saying here is not.

Science is bad, menace is bad.

That's not what we're saying.

We're saying yes and mm-hmm.

We're saying there are elements there
that are productive and useful that

need evolution and purification in
order to come into their full truth

in order to come into their, their
full CAPA capacity and power, for

Speaker: example, it's already known
in the scientific community, um,

scientists that are looking at, um.

Uh, quantum theories or theories of
relativity, or, I don't even know

what that study of science is, but
even in mathematics and, you know,

it's like figuring out the universe.

Like most of those scientists become
enlightened or they're in enlightened

states of consciousness or they act.

You're

Speaker 2: getting mystical downloads.

Speaker: Very mystical.

They

Speaker 2: become very spiritual.

Speaker: Yes,

Speaker 2: yes.

Yeah, so this is a well-known study.

I mean, I realized that the universe
set things up really beautiful for me.

My thesis supervisor, Al Mac worth
gave me this one, and I, I had no idea

what, what was going on at the time.

None.

I mean, I was completely asleep
to my whole evolution program.

He gave me this article
explaining how that's the only way

Speaker: they get you

Speaker 2: explaining.

Yeah, it's the only way.

Speaker: Laverna, the universe has
to have you, uh, greatly asleep

in non, uh, I don't even know

Speaker 2: what, well, I, I think
I'm, we're we're here for this foils.

You woke awake?

I woke asleep.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

We're foils.

Speaker: We're totally opposite.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

So, so going back, he gave me this,
this paper, it wasn't a research paper,

it was a, it was kind of more like a.

A, a journalistic paper explaining how
all, pretty much every single great

scientist, as they uncovered the mechanics
of creation, became very, very spiritual.

And so what happens is,

Speaker: why did he give you that?

Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying.

That's the setup.

Speaker: Was that, okay.

So just, I don't know if you wanna
reveal what happened to you when

you were in your, uh, PhD program.

Speaker 2: The, um, the, the,
what I thought was a nervous

breakdown or a a a a fo, a

Speaker: seizure.

Speaker 2: A focal seizure where my, yeah,

Speaker: a focal seizure.

Speaker 2: My left arm
was, was moving on its own.

Um, was actually a, a spiritual awakening
'cause I was starting to awaken to

Speaker: which you did not structure
even understand that you were having

a spiritual awakening until you
started telling me these stories about

Speaker 2: you were like, no,
that's not what was going on.

Speaker: And well, you, I mean,
it was like the third or fourth

time that you were explaining
this event that happened to you.

And I was like, wait a minute, like,
like please explain it to me in detail.

Mm-hmm.

I wanna know in detail.

And then I was feeling into it and I was
like, this was not what you think it was.

It wasn't a breakdown, it wasn't
a stress related breakdown.

You were actually studying how the brain.

It was

Speaker 2: very, very deeply
how the plane was built

Speaker: on hallucinating

Speaker 2: confabulation.

I was reading the Man Who mistook his wife
for a hat and so on, and understanding

that everything we thought about reality
was completely, completely false.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Also around help hos
discovering that, you know, when

you really understand vision, vision
is just controlled hallucination.

So all these things were going
on in my field at the time,

Speaker: right?

And that, and, and what happens
is that when your, when your

brain starts to understand or

see truth.

And it like, it disrupts
the patterns in the brain.

It actually disrupts
the neurotransmitters.

It's a physiological response that
happens within the brain when the

brain unfolds and turns back on itself
into awareness, and it starts to

understand that everything that it's,
that it in its known universe is wrong.

It goes j.

It's like an actual, the neurotransmitters
itself start to, um, start to respond.

They shut off to form new neuro pathways.

And even in, in India, that's
what how Bhagwan described it.

They would give us these sutra and make
us study these sutras, these passages,

and they make no sense.

At one point in time, we're doing this
like days and days on end, and I was

like, I, I, my brain shuts off every time.

I can't, my brain can't wrap its
ability to understand what this

passage of words was saying.

So when we sat in front
of Bawan that that.

The guru teacher, dude, avatar.

Speaker 2: He's an avatar.

Speaker: Yeah.

He's an avatar,

Speaker 2: not just a guru teacher.

Dude,

Speaker: I, I was confused because
everybody else is understanding

these great passages, these
sutras of these great knowledge.

Speaker 2: Oh,

Speaker: passages of, and
I realize this, right.

You know, and they're, you write
it down and then you contemplate

it in meditation and every time.

I go to a contemplate it.

My brain shuts off, like completely
shuts off, and my mind goes blank and

still and silent, and I can't understand
anything, like my mind just shuts off.

So.

That's what happens.

And so,

Speaker 2: wait, wait.

No, no.

Remember, remember you asked a question.

Speaker: So then when we were in
front of bgan, I was brave enough to

say, um, and I wrote the question.

You write the question down on paper
and they read it to him, and then he

answers it for the whole entire group.

'cause it's like a, a, um, a
collective consciousness question.

And I just remember that
was a moment in time.

Speaker 2: So, so we, so you're
in the room, you know, we're all

sitting down by bons at, up on

Speaker: the bog.

Juan, this is a question from
Audrey Tara, USA and you have

to like, you actually stand

up.

Speaker 2: You stand up

Speaker: and, and everybody,
and then he, he blesses you,

you know, which is super cool.

Um, because that's like an
energetic transmission that is like.

Massive amounts of healing happen mm-hmm.

In that moment.

And, and they read the question,
and then the question is, there

must be something wrong with me.

Because every time I, I read
a sutra, my mind goes blank

and I think I'm doing this wrong.

Can you help me?

And he just looks at me.

I mean me.

He like turns and he looks at me and
he puts out his hands and he goes,

you are in a very, very good state.

It was like everything shut off.

Wait.

Speaker 2: And then he repeated himself
and then it was so insignificant

Speaker: over and

Speaker 2: over again.

You are in a very good state.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Like three times.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: And then he turned to
everybody else in the audience and

there, I don't know how many people,
like a hundred people that were there.

And he goes, for the rest of you,

I will explain what a sutra is doing.

And what he said is he goes,
the words are not important.

What the suture is doing
is it's confusing the mind.

So the mind actually shuts off.

And in that moment of the mind shutting
off, we can go in and do the surgery

and shut off the neurotransmitters.

And that is how a brain is rewired.

That is what we are doing here.

And then he turned back and he
looked at me and he goes, you

are in a very, very good state.

I was so happy I got the gold star.

Um,

Speaker 2: so I wanna just
give some more context.

Okay.

So people may wonder,
well, what is a sutra?

I'll give an example from X, which
is not quite the same thing, but it

Speaker: gives, it's a kohan.

Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

I'll give you an example.

Yeah.

Which is the, what is the
sound of two hands clapping.

When you contemplate that, it's like
it doesn't make any sense and your mind

Speaker: shuts off.

Speaker 2: Shuts off if you let it.

I'll say it again and
just contemplate on this.

What is the sound of two hands clapping?

Sorry, what?

I got that wrong.

What is the sound of one hand clapping.

Speaker: Oh,

I.

Speaker 2: Hmm.

There you go.

Speaker: It's also like, you know, if,
if a, a tree falls in, a forest is no,

if no one's there, does it make a sound?

That's another one.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Ours were very different.

Speaker 2: Well, you know what I realized?

Fun fact,

Speaker: even now, you know, I
realized when I go back to think

about it, I can't even grasp a sutra.

Speaker 2: You, you know what?

I, you know, when I, when I, um, I
go, when I look and think about the

sutures, those sutures are for the
stage of evolution we're at now.

Speaker: I don't even
remember what they said.

Speaker 2: They, they, they were not.

And so that I was thinking like, what
the heck were they doing with us?

I was at such a completely
different stage of evolution.

They're trying to take me from
like level 30 to level 478.

I'm like, like, what?

What on earth?

Like, and

Speaker: well do you, I, I don't,
you never heard the stories,

but I had, I had roommates.

That were going there before
the even the temple was built.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: And they would say
that people, they would, and

they were intense in the forest.

Mm-hmm.

In the sacred forest, like.

And they were doing all, all these
processes and then people would get,

go back on a plane and they would be
in such a, like everything was, their

consciousness was completely shut off.

Mm-hmm.

That they would go into
those psychotic states.

Right.

And, and then from there, they would like
on, from being on the plane and being

in a, this unstructured and, and low

Speaker 2: frequency

Speaker: energy, low frequency energy that
they would drop, their state would just

shift and change and, and then they would
go from the plane into a psych ward, like

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker: They had to
tone it down drastically.

Speaker 2: Well, that's what we are
seeing with our evolution program and

what I'm starting to see with some of the
research we're doing in the physiology.

Is that there needs, the coherence, um,
needs to be both in the mind and the body.

Mm-hmm.

It's mind body coherence.

And so without the purification of
the physiology, like the, the very

deep purification of the physiology,
which is holding and connected with

all the distorted belief systems,
holding and connected with all the

distorted automatic behavior patterns.

Um, connected with all the, all
the, all the, all the wounding.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: All the, all the
trauma, all the, some scars, all

Speaker: the, it's a highly

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Structured, contained
process that, that must be,

uh, that must be honored

Speaker 2: mm-hmm.

Speaker: Uh, to go through the, the
evolutionary journey of consciousness.

Why are we talking about this though?

I think we're

Speaker 2: talking about coherence off.

Speaker: Felt like we were getting off,

Speaker 2: we started telling your
story about coherence and so this is

part of the coherence is that we need
the physio, the coherence as be, be

moved all the way into our physiology.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Some sort of weird sound.

Speaker: Well, it is spring in
the woodpeckers are pecking away.

Speaker 2: Huh.

Speaker: And oh, they also,
um, also some of the birds.

That's a bird hitting metal

Speaker 2: on the house,

Speaker: on the house to call for.

It's a mating call.

Speaker 2: It's a mating call.

Got it.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Speaker: Yeah.

Sorry.

I don't know why I just said sorry.

Yeah,

Speaker 2: well it does sound like
woodpecker's attacking your house.

Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

So they, they um, they
hit the medal on the, uh,

Speaker 2: got, I think
this happened last year on

Speaker: the chimneys.

Yeah.

It happens every year around this time.

Yeah.

It's very exciting.

Mating calls.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Alright.

That's why it's loud.

They wanna make a real loud sound.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: To call the

Speaker: right to call to
call the girl woodpecker.

Yeah.

To, so the, the girl knows that,
you know her, her maid is reliable.

Speaker 2: Very good.

Speaker: Women do that all the time.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Alright, so we're talking about coherence
and the, the download in the kitchen.

Understanding that the, the, the, the,
the phenomenon of, of interspecies

coherence is they're all around us.

And that, that this is the norm in nature
because they're not in the deviation.

And that, that really the humanity
is the, the outlier, right?

Which is the ego conscience, which
is the deviated or the residue of

the deviation that's imprinted in us.

And that, um, you know, we have a choice
of whether you want to keep it or.

Or, or, uh, or evolve out of it.

Speaker: Right?

And this whole entire kind of
podcast is to explain through our own

experience the evolutionary journey.

And I think what we're doing is
we're kind of hitting on things that

people don't actually talk about.

Speaker 2: Oh, I don't, do we
talk about, I don't think I talked

about, we talked about this.

What?

Well, so the other thing
about coherence is.

Is understanding that, um, I
was looking for, well, what is

an evolution of consciousness?

Mm-hmm.

And I looked at all the
different definitions and all the

different, you know, theologies
and philosophies and so on.

It is always a, a, a, a,
an internal experience that

there's no external observable.

So what we're moving to is a place where
we're actually saying, well, what does

it mean in terms of the, the physiology?

What are the markers of, of this?

So first of all, understanding, so this
is actually like a kind of big news

here, is understanding an evolution
of consciousness is a movement towards

coherence within our mind body system.

So it can function as it was intended
at a much higher level of functioning,

Speaker: right?

So we're not having the internal
conflict and fighting against our own.

Nature of being, or we're not, we're
not creating resistance, we're not

creating sabotage in, in our lives.

Speaker 2: Yes.

And so, so, so we just pause for a minute.

Just pause with the idea of
an evolution of conscience is

a movement towards coherence.

You know, we can get a flavor feeling
of this with movies like Limitless

or movies like Lucy, where we're
seeing how a human being can move

to a higher state of functioning.

And you know, both of these are
predicated on, on really both on,

they're both pharma predicated on people
taking a pharmacol pharmacological

substance that's artificially
created to create this effect.

And so what we're saying is that this
is actually available and built into

all of us, this possibility and that

Speaker: without taking a pharmaceutical,

Speaker 2: well it's not a phar.

Well see that That's the trap of the
deviation thing, that you need to take

something 'cause you don't have it.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker 2: For us, it's actually shedding.

The, the, the imprint or the
residue of the deviation.

It's actually shedding the, the
wounding, shedding the misperceptions,

shedding the, the allegiance to science.

The deep allegiance

Speaker: to science, right?

Shed the limitations,

Speaker 2: shedding the limitations,
shedding the, the indoctrination

into, uh, even indoctrinated into
your society, into your family

system, and believing the world.

The way you work is based on your
indoctrination program, right?

Mm-hmm.

And you call it tradition,
you call it family values.

And all of that is embedded, like, oh,
I need to get married and have kids.

That would be an indoctrination into
family values, indoctrination into.

Society, oh, I need to be
this kind of member of society

for this thing to function,

Speaker: right?

I need to go to university and I
need to go get this sort of job

and I need to do this while your
whole entire being is really wants

to be a musician or an artist or

Speaker 2: something.

Or even indoctrination of, oh, I
need to do volunteer work to show

that I care about other human beings.

Speaker: Right,

Speaker 2: right.

And and the truth is that.

You know, really the most important
way you can help anybody else is

by through your own evolution.

So all of that is just deviated
patterns to keep you locked in the loop.

'cause if you're spending time
volunteering to help others, we're not

saying that's wrong or anything like that,
but you know, as long as you're spending

the ti that much or more time on your
own evolutionary process of moving out

of the deviation, then it's all good.

But if that's replacing that, if
you're thinking, oh, I'm doing this

to, and to, well, that's part of the
whole deviation of like, oh, I'm doing

this to be a good person, da da da.

Or, you know, whatever the storyline is.

Make

Speaker: yourself feel good.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Yeah.

So, so what I'm saying here is that,
that it's not a, an external thing

that you ingest to make you become
the potential of what you are.

It's you purifying your own being
out of the things that's covering

up the coherence that's already
within you, the coherence structures.

Are there within you right now in the
physiology, in the, in the mind system,

we can call it, which is the energetics
and the actual brain system itself and

the, and the central nervous system.

And so it's all there.

It's all there.

Now.

The coherence is sitting there.

The original intention for you as
a human being is all sitting there

hidden under the layers of distortion.

And so as we lift away these layers
of distortion as you reclaim and

learn how to function correctly
as a human being on this planet.

Then you'll move slowly, step by
step towards the state of coherence.

And as you become more coherent,
you're able to create more of

what you want in your life.

You're able to create more results,
better relationships, all of that,

better health, all of it comes
as you move towards coherence.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker 2: So I was giving
examples of, of coherence.

We were talking about an
evolution of consciousness.

Now the big breakthrough for us is
understanding that an evolution of

consciousness is a move towards coherence.

So that's really the
whole kind of backstory

Speaker: and not the TV show.

Speaker 2: Hmm.

Speaker: Not the TV show.

Speaker 2: What?

What you mean the TV show?

Speaker: What's that weird TV show?

With the girl?

With that woman?

And there was.

Is it called coherence?

It's called coherence, isn't it?

Speaker 2: I thought there was
that movie where they were in

multiple timelines or something

Speaker: like that.

No, no, no, no.

I'm talking about the TV show.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

I dunno.

Speaker: On Apple TV with the
woman and she's like one of the

only ones that Is it affected?

Speaker 2: No.

Speaker: That for

Speaker 2: So else affected
by the, you're talking about.

Oh, you're talking about that.

Oh no, no.

That one's called something else.

Speaker: Are you sure?

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, that's something called that.

It's completely different.

Speaker: Michael,

Speaker 2: what?

Speaker: It's like there's that, that
virus, that signal, I, I know, I know.

That comes to, and it tells
somebody to make the virus and then

they make the virus and then it
spreads and all of humanity comes

into un supposed unity, consci.

Except for like a few people
that are resistant to the,

Speaker 2: oh, what is it called?

I'm looking on, I just Googled it.

Hold on.

Pluribus,

Speaker: pluribus.

Speaker 2: Pluribus.

Yeah, pluribus is, is actually,
pluribus is a fantastic example.

Of how, you know, we watched these things.

I, we, Audrey and I watched
the whole season one.

It was, it was greatly enjoyable for us.

It, this is a weird, weird
kitschy quality to it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Yeah.

Speaker 2: And, uh, this
is a, a few months ago.

And so what is really interesting
is then this is how the

deviation works and controls you.

Speaker: And Indoctrinates you,

Speaker 2: indoctrinates you.

It's called truth, truth, truth and a lie.

Truth, truth, truth and a lie.

And so when there's a lie in
there, everything gets twisted.

And so what you see in pluribus.

Is all of humanity working together,
solving the world's problems in

living in harmony consciousness.

But the lie is the loss of individuation.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker 2: The lie of the loss of
individuation is the, the premise of

the whole movie, the whole movie's
built around this woman saying, I

do not want to lose my identity.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

And the here's the deal

Speaker: and we, and the falsification
that when you come into unity

consciousness, you lose your identity.

So it scares the viewers or the
audience into believing that unity

consciousness is bad and wrong.

You're being brainwashed
to think and believe.

Be the lie

Speaker 2: in the background.

You don't even know this is happening.

You

Speaker: don't even know what's happening.

Speaker 2: You don't even
know what's happening.

That's how effective the
indoctrination program is.

You don't even realize that you're
being shown, oh, if I have a state of

consciousness, it will be bad for me.

Right.

Speaker: Lose

Speaker 2: my identity.

If I move

Speaker: into unity consciousness,
it will be bad, bad, bad.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Speaker 2: We could make
a list of all the movies.

Oh

Speaker: yeah.

Speaker 2: That have.

That are really showing that a shift
towards an evolution in consciousness

towards unity, consciousness towards
coherence is gonna end up bad.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Or it's, it's a
hallucination and it's, it's a,

it's a, yada yada, yada yada.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Childhood end.

That's another one.

Speaker 2: Hmm.

Another one.

What?

Speaker: Where there's a
indoctrination of unity.

Consciousness is bad.

And you lose your, your
individuation, uh, and the whole

world gets, did they lose their

Speaker 2: individuation?

Speaker: Destroyed?

Speaker 2: They

Speaker: didn't.

No.

No, they didn't.

They didn't.

And

Speaker 2: I thought it was ac I think
it's actually a beautiful example of

what the evolution is like except.

Speaker: But they made it scary.

Oh, I

know.

Speaker 2: They did such a
good job making it scary.

Speaker: Love that.

They made it scary.

Then all, you know, all
the children ascended.

Uh, I don't want to give it all
away, but it's, it's like, um, oops.

Yeah.

Right.

And the, and the planet got destroyed.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Trust me,

Speaker 2: YY

Speaker: this planet
will not get destroyed.

Humans on the other hand, if
they don't shape up, basically,

um, you know, this, this, this
planet is meant to be this planet.

This planet will never not exist.

Speaker 2: Okay, so what does
coherence mean for people?

Listening means you're
good explaining context.

Oh, I know what it is,

Speaker: what.

Speaker 2: So the reason part of this
topic is very difficult to use as a

premise in discussion is 'cause nobody
wants to admit they're incoherent.

Nobody wants to admit they're operating
from low states of coherence, even though,

uh, it's actually like the, the birds
and the science research, even though

the data's there, everyone listening, you
know, when you have reactive behaviors,

those, that's an example of incoherence.

Everybody listening knows when
they have looping thoughts.

That's an example of incoherence.

Everybody knows when they make a
choice that actually hurts themselves.

That's an example of incoherence.

Everybody knows

Speaker: when they incoherence.

Speaker 2: Incoherence,

Speaker: yes.

That means you're out of alignment.

That means you're not in balance.

Speaker 2: Every negative thought you
have about yourself, every thought of

unworthiness, every thought of shame,
this is the incoherence in your system.

So when I say that humanities is in a
state of low coherence, this is a fact.

You know, through your own
direct experience of your inner

reality that this fact is true.

Speaker: This is why we have wars.

This is why we have poverty.

This is why we have disease.

This is why we have violence
and aggression to against

others and against ourselves.

So it's because we are in
a low level of coherence.

We are incoherent.

Yes.

We are not in coherence with nature,

Speaker 2: we're not in coherence
with ourselves, and therefore we

cannot be in coherence with nature.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: So if you love this planet.

You wanna look after this planet, look
after your own inner state of being.

If you care about humanity, want
humanity be better and solve humanity's

problems, there's one way to do it.

Look after your own inner state of
being, 'cause you cannot help create

coherence around you from the state
of coherence you're in internally.

And the first step, this is actually
the most important step that will

unlock everything, is when you
admit to yourself that this is true.

And when you admit it
and you're ready to look,

Speaker: that's awareness.

Speaker 2: That's the power of
your awareness, which is the

technology of evolution, unlocking
your whole evolutionary journey.

Speaker: That's what the, I don't know
much about mindfulness, but the whole

movement or the techniques of mindfulness,
all these, all these teachings are

based on awareness, like becoming aware.

Of how you are functioning.

They're not telling you you need to
become aware that you're out of balance

or you're out of alignment, or you're
in low, coherent state of functioning.

They're not saying that.

They're just saying, Hey, be mindful.

You know?

And it's hard to be mindful, you know?

And I guess we're just saying the thing.

It's like, look,

you're not functioning at all.

One of the things is that we've been
indoctrinated to believe is that

blaming the external circumstances,

blaming, it's being done
to us blaming life itself.

We're not even aware that our.

Whole entire being is creating our
reality, and we don't even wanna admit it.

We want to, we, we have been taught to
blame the outside world for everything.

It's everybody else's fault.

So that.

Indoctrination of that, even that
belief that it's everybody else's

fault or it's the circumstances out
of my control, or I was born this

way, or my family is this way or what.

However, whatever you wanna blame
everything on, we've been indoctrinated

to believe that it's external to us,
that we're not creating our own reality.

And in that very indoctrination,
we are disempowered, we

are giving our power away.

We, and we've talked about this in other
podcasts, we are disempowering ourselves

and we've become a society that doesn't
wanna own the very nature of our being.

We do not wanna have self-mastery.

We do not want to understand the very
nature of our being and the mechanics of

creation, that we are powerful beings.

Mm-hmm.

We don't even wanna see this.

So we,

Speaker 2: we

Speaker: don't, it's like science, right?

The data's there.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: And you know, we're
choosing to not even believe it,

which, it's not even about a belief.

It's about.

Speaker 2: Admitting the direct
experience of, of what's there,

Speaker: admitting that we have
the power within our own being.

We are powerful creators.

We're just creating incoherence and
low frequency states of functioning

Speaker 2: well, going back to a
metaphor we had in an earlier podcast.

It's like, it, it, it's an
understanding it or recognizing.

Oh my, my consciousness, my
physicality is a complex machine

and the way I'm operating to create
my life isn't really working.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Or it's not working
as well as I'd like it to.

And I don't really understand how this,
how my consciousness works, how my

mind works, how my physiology works.

Like this is all like some kind
of mystery and I just ignore it

and put it in a box in the corner.

I mean, and so that's where it's like,
well, do I want to take responsibility

for the mechanism that is my existence?

And understand

Speaker: how operate, or do I wanna
let somebody else have control over it?

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Or just let it run the way it's
running and you know, so choice.

Speaker: It is a choice and it's,

Speaker 2: well, I guess this is
back to blue pill, red pill, right?

The blue pill is, well,
none of this is true.

I go back to my everyday ordinary reality.

And everything's fine in

Speaker: a

Speaker 2: mistake.

Or I can take the red pill and look at
the truth within my own being not external

Speaker: and see how far
the rabbit hole really goes.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 2: Well, we have to go down
the rabbit hole first to go into the

structure and what's happening in
the deviation or purifying out of it.

But then eventually we, we come
back out of it and we'll back

Speaker: into, oh my God, even
Alison in Wonderland, that movie.

She went down the rabbit hole and
it was more crazy and scary and

odd and, and it was like a whole
entire story about don't go down

the rabbit hole 'cause it'll be bad.

Speaker 2: Right.

Whereas when we go down the rabbit
hole, we see what's actually happening.

Speaker: The truth.

Speaker 2: Yes.

Speaker: And once we have the
truth, then we can take ownership

and responsibility to shift it.

Speaker 2: Right.

'cause awareness

Speaker: is the primary
mechanism for evolution.

We set it right here.

We had a big, huge flip chart
in our course on the wall.

Boom.

Remember when that came in?

Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't tell you
about this, but I, I had this,

this, this kind of unres realized
tension in my field between.

We can do a whole podcast on
this probably, but we're getting

to closing time, but I'll just
just drop this little seed in

Speaker: closing time.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: There's a song.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

There is Leonard Cohen.

Is that, I found like that
the, the shift in energy and

frequency the energetics needed.

Mm-hmm.

And the awareness that these are two
threads or two pillars of evolution.

I don't really know what to call them.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: But two aspects
of evolution maybe.

And I was always trying to figure,
well, which one's more important?

Which one's more important?

And what I got is,

you wanna hear this, it's
actually right there.

Awareness is the primary
mechanism of evolution.

The energetics are there to support the
evolution and development of awareness.

So that's what I figured out.

Speaker: I feel like they're
like, which came first?

The chicken or the egg?

It's like, uh.

It's like the energetics are always there.

It's just the awareness.

It's kinda like the sun
and the earth, you know?

That we turn with our awareness,
we turn away from the sun, we

turn away from the energetics.

Mm-hmm.

That's it.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: It's the
energetics are always there.

The nature of the universe, the
mechanics of creation are always there.

We just.

Turn away from it.

Mm-hmm.

With our awareness

Speaker 2: mm-hmm.

Speaker: We become unaware.

Mm-hmm.

We become disconnected, we become
distracted, we become unconscious.

Mm-hmm.

And all we have to do is go.

So maybe awareness is the most important.

That's what

Speaker 2: I said,
what's in the statement.

Awareness is the primary
mechanism of evolution.

But I never, I never,
I never really got it.

I've been teaching it for three years,
but I never really got it until now.

Well, I never understood the
full depth of it, I'd say.

Speaker: I love our conversations.

I almost feel like

it's really good to have
these conversations.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Speaker: And I get excited.

It like pulls me, it like pulls
me into my purpose and mm-hmm.

I get excited about talking about things.

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Good.

Yeah, I feel complete.

Is there anything else you have?

Speaker: I don't think so.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Let's do, uh, a closing with three
minutes of the E two macho transmission.

Okay.

And so everyone just tuned
in the frequency, um, you've

already been listening.

I, we will just repeat this.

'cause bear's repeating is that the
most important of this whole podcast

is actually the energetics of what's
happening and then the, uh, the, the most.

Important part of this whole part is
actually right now where we're actually

just all creating a space to tune into,

Speaker: right

Speaker 2: into the coherence,

Speaker: right into this high
vibrational frequency, which will

also help land this information as
a living reality in your system.

I also wanna say, um.

That we are doing those E two
mantra meditations now on YouTube.

Mm-hmm.

On Sundays and Thursdays.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Live streaming.

Speaker: Live stream for 20 minutes.

For 20 minutes.

Those are really powerful.

Yeah.

Those are very powerful.

Speaker 2: Crazy powerful.

Speaker: So,

Speaker 2: alright.

Speaker: And, and, and invitation for
people to get more if they want it.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

So here's the three minute version.

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