B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: Ready?

Audree: I don't think it was on.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

It is.

Audree: Oh,

okay.

Here we go.

So how are you doing?

Michael: I'm doing really good.

Audree: Are you just saying
that 'cause you're micd up?

Michael: No.

Audree: Are you sure?

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: You could ask me what
kind of good is your real,

what kind of good is your good?

What kind kind of good is, and then
that would be a, like a very open

and curious way to investigate.

Audree: Hmm.

So what kind of good is your good?

Michael: Well,

Audree: because I am curious, I
just don't know how to express it

Michael: Well, so we've been going
through how, you know, we're, you know,

in some ways the worst students ever.

Mm-hmm.

And

the complexity of all the different
things that I could focus on are,

is like so, so great because.

It's in this place of getting mastery
over the mechanics of creation.

And so while there's, and, and there's
also this surrendering to the journey.

So it is like the, the, she say, oh,
this is what you need to focus on here.

And then that's like, you know, a
week, you know, a week, 10 days ago.

And then, you know, then the
immediate thing they say is,

okay, well now go look at this.

And then, so it's like, well,
they mean go look at this in the

context of everything else before.

Right, and everything still applies.

And so there's then this
confusion in my system.

Well, what still applies?

What doesn't apply?

What's the, you know, should I just focus?

Because sometimes there's a phase of
focusing and then going back and anyway,

so I, I'm, I'm guessing this is just the
nature of it and the perfection of it all.

'cause I need to have my own
understanding of what's happening.

And so the specific mechanic I'm
talking about here from seven 10

days ago, which is was building
for, you know, a month before.

Was just being in the isness,
just being in the, the presence.

And then the, the shift that happened,
uh, seven, 10 days ago was to just

really understand that the, the, the
data recording aspect, uh, you know, some

people call it the observer, but just
the, um, just allowing the experience to

be processed, independent of the mind.

And so having that aspect
and then at the same time.

There's an energetic upgrade going on
and a purification, and there's certain

things that I need to look at, especially
around my, how my self hatred manifests

in terms of, you know, financial, sorry,
you don't know, but in terms of financial

sabotage, in terms of, um, struggle, in
terms of, and, and really looking at how.

Those, those aspects of
my being been active.

And then so then there's this confusion,
well, what's most important to focus on?

Do I go look at what's there?

Or do I just abide in the business?

And the answer is, well, it's both

and it's only, you know.

Now I'm realizing it's like, well, that
that guidance was only in the context

of this understanding ending of being in
this place of just experiencing creation.

Which is like this different way of
functioning, independent of, of the mind.

And what I'm getting now is that
they may well go look at those

thi things from this place, right?

And so while they didn't say that, you
know, I think that's, you know, that's

what we do with our students, right?

We give them instructions and it's
never meant to be a trap, but it,

but it always is a trap because the
complexity is so high, and then it's

not even like something goes wrong.

It's that, that that kind of,
what seems to be an error from the

deviated perspective is actually
just the perfection of creation,

making sure that there's a clear
understanding or lesson in the system.

So there's this deep nosis in
realization at a level that's,

that's deep and permanent.

Audree: Right.

So when you're talking, what came to
mind is in the, the certified Agile

leadership training where we started.

Yeah.

And how complex it was.

There were so many modules,
there were so many things.

It was a two day course.

People were like,

Michael: have their heads exploding at

Audree: the end of the, having their
heads exploding and there was so much

to master, like all we did was an
information dump, A skill dump of this is,

you look at this with experiences with.

I, I, I'm not talking about
the experiences, I'm just

talking about the information.

And then they had to go home or
go back to work and sort through

it all and figure out what was the
best thing to use in the moment.

So what I'm getting at here is that

there's a mastery of.

All the knowledge, all the tools and
techniques, the whole entire life.

Then we had the playbook, and then
you had to put everything into the

perspective of the playbook, and then
when you got a stop in the playbook,

then you had to do these other things.

It it, so the complexity, if you
look at the complexity spectrum.

Everybody wants to sit at the,
at the beginning of it where?

Michael: Turn left, turn right.

Right.

Tell me what to

Audree: do.

Put in gas.

This is the best practice.

This is what you do.

This is, this is the, they want certainty.

Michael: I, yeah.

Audree: And where life is all
the way over here at the end of

the complexity spectrum, where
it's like you have no idea.

And what happens in the middle is I think
the evolutionary journey is a process of

mastery, of, of gaining all the knowledge
and it has to be the correct knowledge

because we've been in sitting in.

Half truths and lies for so
long, you don't even know

what the correct knowledge is.

So you need some sort of technique
to understand, to sort out what's

what's true, what's not true,
what's real, what's not real.

And then you have to take all the tools
and techniques at a skill of mastery.

Like it's not, and that's
what the practices are.

That's why you have a daily practice,
because all you're doing is you're,

you're gaining mastery over and over.

You're practicing over and over and
over again, so you can get out into

your life and pick and choose what's
needed in the moment, which is the

skill and the art form, and the mastery
of the whole, of the whole thing.

And even then.

You're in the complexity of life itself.

Michael: Hmm.

Yeah.

I'm remembering back to the, you
know, the course and it's, uh, it was

like, you know, you know, creating,
giving safety firm and saying,

well, look, this is like a buffet.

There's all this stuff here.

Take what you need for your
situation at your stage of evolution.

And that that was, that was actually
very helpful guidance for people.

And now they think about
the course as a whole.

It was actually saying, okay,
well here's self-mastery.

That's actually what it was.

It was, here's, here's a high level
of self-mastery as a leader, as

somebody who's living your life.

These are the, the, you know, the
dimensions that you've never known that

are governing, and then people who are
like really like kind of more kind of

aware and conscious and, and good leaders.

Mm-hmm.

And so on.

Already when they came in, they go.

Oh, that's why I always wanted to do this.

That's why I never got along with my,
you know, kind of more traditional

bosses because they wanted me
to do things in traditional way

and it didn't feel right for me.

And so what it gave some of those
people is not just an understanding

of why they had those instincts.

It also gave them permission to say,
oh, well this is how I do it and this is

how I function with those instincts in a
healthy way, in a traditional environment.

Audree: Right?

Michael: So it was very, very, um, it
gave people their power back instead of.

You know, instead of being in
this confused state of, okay,

well, what's correct here?

You know?

Audree: Right.

It also gave them permission
to do something different.

What instinctively they felt would work
or it gave them a new perspective so

they could try something different.

I think in the, in the leadership
training, we're talking about command

and control, and I think what I'm
getting at here is that all of it.

Like we're really talking about new ways
of showing up to our life and functioning.

So the outcome is different.

The outcome is

Michael: so we're creating
a new life experience.

Yes.

I like to say,

Audree: and

we're coming, all of us are
coming from the distortion.

We're deeply, deeply ingrained in
condition patterns of perspective,

behaviors, beliefs, to the
point where it's unconscious.

We don't even know, it's
like hidden from us.

We don't even know that
these things exist.

Michael: Our perspective is hidden
from us because it's our perspective.

We just see things that way.

However, we're not aware of all
the uncon, all the unconscious.

Biases, beliefs, experiences
that shape that perception.

We just have our perception of the
world, oh, this is good, this is bad.

I don't like this, I like that.

I need to do this to be successful.

This won't work.

We have all these perceptions.

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4: And

Michael: the, those perceptions
are actually the block.

That's why we say we can change
our life experience because without

anything outside of us changing,
because the, the blocks are internal.

They're into our own being.

Audree: Right.

You're the problem being
and you're the solution.

Michael: Everyone here has had
an experience where suddenly they

got a new perspective and they
realized that the situation was

not what they thought it was.

Audree: And then everything changed.

Michael: And then everything changed.

Audree: It unlocked,

Michael: and that's what
we're talking about is we're

talking about a systemized way.

To change that perspective, and
that's what's going on for me today.

You're talking about what's happening
with you at the very beginning.

I'm getting a different perspective
on what I'm experiencing

internally within my own being.

Audree: That's why we say awareness
is the primary mechanism of evolution.

Michael: Yeah.

And so, so in this deepening of the work
that's happening over the last month or

two, the word perspective's been coming
in in a very powerful way, not perception.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: But perspective.

And then if you know what, what that
unlocks for me is if you think about

perspective, you can say, well,
if you look at the chair from this

perspective, it looks like this.

If you look at from this
perspective, it looks like this.

And we understand that
perspective changes.

The experience, whereas perception
feels much more subjective and

personal and kind of tangled up
in, in our identity and so on.

But perspective, everyone gets, oh,
yeah, there's a different perspective.

If I'm a higher up, I can see more.

Audree: That's interesting because
the, the, the, there's a, a metaphor

of, um, in, in this spiritual kind of,
uh, uh, traditions that you are like a

diamond and you're being, you're being.

Polished and, and faceted and shining.

And that, and even the, the, the, she used
it as well is that when, when you are this

beautiful diamond after you're shaped and,
and polished and faceted and, and all of

that, it's the, the energy coming through
creates the ability to have prismatic

awareness or talking about a, so.

If you're, if you're thinking of it
that way, is that a diamond comes out of

the earth and it's not, it doesn't look
like it does on a, on a ring, you know?

It doesn't look like a gemstone.

It looks like this, like, you know, rock
that, that doesn't look like anything.

And as you work with it, as you evolve
it, as you shape it, as you polish it,

when then when the light comes through it.

It, it shines like a, it, it's like a
pr, the, it creates a prismatic effect.

And then what happens on the wall is
that there's these beautiful rainbow

colors that are, that are happening.

And it's kind of like, I think that's
why there's always been this metaphor

in, in the evolutionary process or
the spiritual path to enlightenment,

is that you are the diamond.

You are this, this, you know, rough around
the edges that needs the purification

to become this beautiful gemstone.

But the the gemstone you, you're always,
you've always been that very thing.

Michael: Oh yeah.

Actually don't like that metaphor at
all, because it implied that there's

some shaping of the diamond itself.

And that's not the truth.

The truth is we already are that, and
it's layer removing the layers of gunk.

So it's more like the
diamond is perfect already.

Right now it's just buried
under layers and layers of gunk.

Audree: I'm talking about the shaping
is the, the shift in perspective.

Michael: Oh,

Audree: that the facets are the
shift in perspective, and there's

ma there's not just one facet.

There's many, many facets.

And as the light comes through each angle.

You know, it, it has the ability
to filter the light through

Michael: anyway.

I'm okay with the upgraded metaphor of it.

The diamond's already there,
which is covered with G

Audree: whatever

Michael: that needs to get cleaned off.

'cause it's not about, you know,
we're not perfected already.

That's the, that's the,

Audree: do you feel
you're perfected already?

Because that's the interesting,
that's where we got this morning,

is that when you go to heal

Michael: somebody's,
there's, there's nothing.

When I connect in, there's
nothing that needs to be done.

Everything's there.

Audree: Then why are you busy processing?

That's what I'm saying, that
ev that your perspective shifts

when you hit those places.

And there's this, this automatic
going back to a deviated pattern

of seeing things and experiencing
things in the field and that we

spend a lot of time seeing ourselves
as not worthy of self-hatred of.

Um, not perfect.

And there's this point along the
evolutionary journey where it's not

like those things go away, it's just
that you shift your perspective because

you've had enough of those experiences
in the high vibrational frequency,

in the higher state of consciousness
where there's something else there.

There's a connection to
source consciousness.

You begin to know yourself as source.

Michael: So what's going on for me now?

And this the, she talked about is just
a very physical purification process.

So I'm being in the.

And the, the, isn't this the
truth of, of what I am, and

Audree: I'm not, I'm not
talking about you though.

I'm just finish about
the journey in general.

Finish

Michael: you're talking about.

Why am I,

Audree: it feels like
you're getting defensive.

Michael: Well, I feel like
there's a misunderstanding and

a, and a clarification or I, I,
or actually it's more than that.

It, it's actually just connecting
our experiences to see if it's

the same experience for you and
then using that to triangulate.

Audree: Why would it
be the same experience?

I am just generalizing the, the journey.

Michael: What's happening is you're
shutting down what I was trying to

share and interrupting, not letting
me finish what I wanted to say.

Audree: Go ahead,

Michael: is what's happening.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: So what's going on for
me is, is from the place of.

In the isness and the beingness
experiencing whatever the

structure that is there and
experiencing the isness through it.

And then there's, then there's just
this automatic unraveling, and I'm not

trying to do anything or change anything.

I'm just being.

So I think for me it, it's, it's
really about just staying in

that, that connection, that isness

and the, and it's like an and,
and experiencing whatever there is

from that perspective, just to tie
in the whole perspective thing.

Right.

I had

Audree: to

Michael: clarify

Audree: that.

Otherwise, you're in spiritual bypass.

Michael: Yeah, so it's
not about ignoring it.

It's not about, oh, I don't
need to deal with this anymore.

It's just about, oh, this is here.

What is this?

Oh, okay.

That's it.

It's more like, this is what I'm saying.

It's more like, like the
data's just getting recorded.

It's like whatever there is is
getting processed and recorded and

not like I'm not engaging with it.

It's not like the mind's engaging.

Or if I notice the mind's engaging,
then I just become with that.

Then that gets processed out or something.

Like, I don't really, I'm trying
to describe things that are not

really very easily describable.

That's what I wanted to say.

Audree: Did you get triggered?

Michael: Yes,

Audree: me too.

Michael: Well, you know,
that's the beauty of it.

If somebody else is triggered, the

Audree: Holy Spirit works the whole

Michael: system.

Well, if somebody, this is their favorite

Audree: rule, watch out
your, uh, your microphone.

Michael: It's okay.

This is a favorite rule.

If somebody else's triggered around
you, then you're triggered too.

Kinda an automatic.

People don't like that one though.

Audree: Mm.

I think what we were getting
at is, is the art form.

At some point, it, it's
like you're, oh my God.

You're hold, you're holding two
opposing states at the same time

and maintaining your ability to
function of Scott Fitzgerald.

Michael: Yeah.

Back to back to the very
beginning of every training.

Audree: That's because every
training that we did, we were

teaching evolution of consciousness.

Yeah, that's what I got.

When I first came into your classroom
and I saw your training, I was like.

Do you have any idea what
you're teaching here?

I'm like, you're teaching about
a shift in consciousness, because

if you don't have a shift in
consciousness, nothing changes.

Like you can't fix your team,
you can't deliver your product,

can't have peace at home.

Michael: And if you don't have the
correct knowledge, correct tools,

correct techniques, you can't actually
achieve that in any material way.

Audree: I have a healthy body,

Michael: so coming back to what
I was sharing this morning, it's

what the nature of the whole
journey is, is about self mastery.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: It's about mastery of the
mechanics of what and who we are.

And if you think about it, I think
we've talked about this before, right?

You know, our body's a complex machine.

Are we, do we know how
to operate that machine?

Right?

And if you know, and then,

Audree: well, there's no

Michael: life experience

Audree: manual,

Michael: our li right?

It is like, what's that
movie or that TV show,

Audree: what.

Michael: Flying on air.

I never

thought I could be

so the greatest American hero?

Audree: Oh yeah.

Michael: So the greatest
American hero is a TV show.

Uh, please don't watch it.

It's not very good.

It's from the eighties.

Audree: Is it the
eighties or the seventies?

Michael: No, I think it was the eighties.

I think

Audree: it was

Michael: early eighties.

It was seventies.

And it's about this, this, uh, these
aliens land and give this guy a, uh,

a suit like a, you know, a superhero
suit to give him special abilities.

So, so he can be a force
of good on the planet.

And what happens is he loses
the instruction manuals.

And so he is this kind of, you know,
normal kind of everyday dad kind of

goofy guy trying to figure out how to
be a superhero and how to get a suit to

work and, you know, and so the, the, the
whole, the whole, the whole point here

is that that's what's happened to us.

You know, we're we, we are superheroes,
we are these incredible beings that are

meant to function in extraordinary ways.

And we've lost the
instruction manual, in fact.

Fun fact, if you go back to the origins.

We were actually born without the
instruction manual as a race of beings.

Audree: On purpose.

Michael: On purpose.

So to

Audree: be oppressed,

Michael: we're not gonna, we're not gonna,
we're not gonna go into those details,

but, but fun fact is, uh, so it's not just

Audree: because as scientists, we
can't, because there's no hard evidence.

Michael: We have mystical data
that's been reliable so far.

And so by analog we can say this
is most likely true and so on.

So, so, so really that's

Audree: also mythological story.

Michael: That's why this
is so tricky, right?

Not.

It's not that, you know, it's one point
humanity, you know, was evolved and in,

you know, in operating these states and,
and somehow something went wrong and

there's a fall of consciousness, whether
the Yuga cycle or something else, or you

know, the dimensional rip or whatever, and
there's a loss of consciousness and now

we're just going back to where we were.

No, actually no, that's
not what's happening.

We're going to somewhere
humanity's never been before.

I was a big Star Trek fan when
was a kid, you know, going beyond

where no man has gone before.

And so literally this is
what's happening with humanity.

We're going beyond anything that humanity
as a race has ever experienced before.

Now the good news is that there's
all this energetic support, the

mechanics of creation, the instruction
manuals here, and it's possible now.

Audree: Okay,

I'm gonna do a big reveal.

Michael: I thought that
was a big reveal already.

Audree: Big.

Like

Michael: what?

Audree: I'm going to reveal
my agenda for this podcast.

Michael: Oh, you have an agenda?

Audree: Oh yeah, totally.

Why do you think the minute
you sat down in the living

room, I was like, okay, mic up.

I'm not even gonna ask
you how you're doing.

Just mic up.

I tricked you.

Michael: I knew something was going on.

It's just like I, it is just,
I, I have no objection to it.

So what, why not,

Audree: who are you are, are you offended?

Michael: Who are you and what
have you done with my husband?

She said this.

Audree: No,

Michael: I'm not even offended now.

It's like, oh, this makes sense.

Okay.

Audree: Okay.

Uh, so yeah, so my agenda is this.

I've been redesigning the
website and I'm stuck.

I am stuck on, and this is, this is
our whole entire why we cannot market.

We have this amazing product
and we cannot market our work.

And why is that?

Michael: Well, according to the, uh,
the channeling session we had yesterday,

'cause it's not the right time yet.

Audree: Is that real?

But what is it like,

Michael: right, so you're talking
about from the mechanics, like

what mechanics need to be there.

What needs to be there in our
own evolutionary process to, is

it an internal constraint or an
external constraint, or both?

That's what I would ask as a,
as a, you know, an operator

Audree: mechanic.

Well, I, I always, so, so I was, I
was just like reading the slack and

I was just noticing, you know, the
common denominator is us always.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And it's like.

We could develop products, we
could talk about this work.

I mean like we're talking about
it now, but when it comes to

marketing our work, we fall flat.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And so I was trying to
figure out like, what is it?

Like,

why.

And so what happened to me
was that I started feeling

internally, like, what's going on?

What's going on?

And I realized that marketing has always,
to me, my perspective of marketing has

always been like, almost like people
talking over each other, trying to be

the best, the loudest, the coolest, the
coolest, the most aggressive person.

You know,

Michael: most hip

Audree: right.

Shuts out

Michael: most edgy,

Audree: right?

It's, it's like all of it, like even
when we were doing some research

yesterday, it's like, oh, this is the
website that catches people's attention.

This is what you do.

This is how, what you say.

And then every time we go to write
something on the website about

our work, it's just like, well,
everybody else says the same thing.

Everybody's talking about energy.

Everybody's talking
about being supernatural.

Everybody's talking about
getting in the flow state.

Like there are all these people
talking about the same things.

And so while they're saying the same
thing, they're not doing the same thing.

But how do, how do you, you
know, and it's like, how do you

even talk about this work or.

How do you express value to someone?

And what I'm getting is, first of
all, we talk about quiet coyote

like,

like I just wanna sit on a mountain.

And be in a state in this high
state of consciousness and not care.

And it seems like in society, the
only way to like make money and be

successful is to bulldoze your way in.

And I'm feeling the, the conflict in my
being between the stillness and the quiet

of the real, the true state

and this other thing.

That is what society is telling us
is how to do business, how to market.

You know, even in our leadership
training, people would say, well, you

know, that's not what's expected of me.

I'm expected to be doing things.

And they would, they would misinterpret.

The playbook until in the middle of
the playbook, we had to say, oh, you

still have tactics and strategies.

You still have things to do.

You know, while you're waiting for
the system to be ready for evolution.

There's all kinds of things to do.

Or people you know would say, well,
I can't be an evolutionary leader

because I'm expected to show up
as a traditional leader, otherwise

nobody's gonna pay attention to me.

Yet.

We would say, run the experiment and sit
in the meeting and don't say anything.

And then they would run that experiment
and they come back and say, oh my God.

Audrey Michael, that worked.

I didn't say anything and it took a
couple meetings and then all of a sudden

people started asking for my opinion.

So which is it?

Michael: It's not even a question.

Well, first of all, fact, fact check.

It's that other people are
saying 80% the same thing.

And so that's a great
service of this work.

'cause what we're communicating
and bringing to the world has

already been socialized out
there and is in common awareness.

So that's actually like a
really, really good thing.

Of course, the, you know, the, the
challenge is if you've got 80% correct and

20% incorrect, you're not going anywhere.

Even if you've got 99% correct
and 1% incorrect, you're

still not going anywhere.

It's like very, like, incorrect
information is, is lethal in the system.

So that's, first of all,
I just wanna address that.

Coming back to your main point is there's
only one way we can ever do things,

and that's from a high vibrational
frequency, which means that it's quiet.

It is quiet.

Coyote, it is awakening something
for those who are can, can,

are, are open to receiving that.

So there's no.

That's why we don't have a mailing list.

It's not, not even Correct.

'cause mailing list is a, an attempt to
like, oh, I'm gonna keep on poking at

somebody until, until they get it right.

And it's not that, I guess we do have
a mailing list for people who purchase

things and anyway, but, but we're not,

Audree: it's informational.

Its not,

Michael: but it's more informational.

It's not trying to get
somebody to do something.

It's like, oh, we have this new offering.

There's this new possibility.

We're excited about it.

And it's more of a very
different approach.

And if you go back to what the, she said.

At the very, like, almost like
8, 8, 10 months ago is said,

look, look what Joel did.

He just put an advertisement in the,
the newspaper that he was having

a session and people showed up.

He was giving a talk.

And that's what it is for us.

It's just saying, Hey, we're,
we're, we're, we're, we're here.

And letting people know about it.

And then people will come if
they're interested and not come.

But it's not about, 'cause there's
no, there's no way to like.

There's no energy that will be useful.

I'm not saying we know, we're
not creating ads and doing things

like that, of course we're doing
things to say, oh, here we are.

Are you interested?

But if it is not done in
the, the, you know, the

Audree: OB scarcity model?

Yeah, the sensationalism model.

Like, you know, there's people that go to
these huge events with certain teachers.

Mm-hmm.

And they get hyped up on
the energy, the possibility.

This, you know, kind of like, um, I
don't even, I don't even know what it

is, but it's like this frenzied state
of pushing through all the boundaries.

Michael: Well, some teachers, other
teachers would bring people together,

and then there's a, there's a
natural activation of everyone coming

together holding the same attention.

Independent of what work
the teacher's offering.

Right.

Right.

Like, so there, there are
multiple things going on, some

of which are, are beneficial and
some of which are, are less so.

But it's really a, a bit of a
mix out there is what I'd say.

Audree: Right.

Like the vision that I had of
being in Madison Square Garden

Michael: mm-hmm.

Audree: I don't know how many people
that hold 50,000, maybe 40,000

people, but it was super quiet.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And everybody was there together.

In stillness, that energy
field was so powerful.

Mm-hmm.

Like that is a field that
can impact all of humanity.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: So

coming back to

this work and evolution.

Oh my god, you know what
I'm getting right now.

Okay, so I'm trained massage therapist,
and when you work with fascia, fascia is

this uhhuh tissue around the muscle that,
um, becomes hardened and holds the muscle

in place, and it could be held, you know,
it holds your muscle in the wrong place.

So when you're doing myofascial work,
what you're actually doing is if you.

Push into the muscle tissue really, really
hard and fast, it will just tighten up

and contract and hold its contraction.

Yet, if you just gently place your
thumb or your hand, you know, on

the muscle tissue, and you allow the
heat from your body to slowly melt

the, the myofascial that's held.

It just that it's, that's when
it's like slow, rich, and deep.

That's where I got it from.

Mm.

But it's like that, it's just the heat
from your thumb melts into the muscle

and then you could move your hand
very slowly through the myofascial.

But that is what is, is actually
unlocking all of the tissue and

the contraction in the muscle.

So.

It's stillness, it's heat, which is high
vibrational frequency and intention.

Not to push through anything,
but to actually just gently hold

that high vibration, that heat

Michael: mm-hmm.

Audree: On the, on the spot.

And then it just sinks in and it
starts to release and surrender.

Okay,

Michael: so, so on our website
right now, what is that heat?

Where is it?

Audree: I don't know.

Uh, is the, is the heat in
the, uh, the free experience?

Really?

Michael: Is that a question?

Feel it,

Audree: I don't know.

Michael: Feel it?

Audree: That's what it feels like

Michael: to me.

Yeah.

That, that's the

Audree: heat.

I gotta get a blanket.

Michael: Oh, I'm in the sun.

I'm dying over here.

I took off my sweater.

The, uh, the heat.

Yeah, that's where the heat is.

It's in the experience
and it's very gentle.

It's like people who enjoy it,
they'll, they'll, they'll listen

again and again and again.

And then they'll say, okay, well I'm ready

for

Audree: more.

Michael: I listen to

Audree: it.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: I go to our own website.

I listen to the experience.

Well, I guess I don't have to do that.

I probably shouldn't
because it's showing up as a

Michael: No, it's fine.

Doesn't matter.

Um, so just coming back to what we,
anyway, so just to go back to what the

block is, you were asking about that.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: So if you remember.

Is this, two days ago, three days ago?

Audree: I think it,

Michael: yes.

Is this yesterday?

Audree: I think it's

Michael: trying to,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This is yesterday or the day before
where you were like, oh, okay, we can

put a channel recording on a podcast.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Remember the
block you had before?

Audree: Oh yeah.

Michael: Right.

Audree: For months.

Michael: For months.

Remember?

I was ready to go do that in
whatever, I think it was January.

Right now it's, I dunno, what is it now?

March?

Audree: It wasn't January.

It

Michael: was

Audree: when we, when we recorded that,

Michael: that thing.

Yeah.

That was in January.

Yeah.

Fun fact.

Anyway,

Audree: so I thought it
was like in November.

Michael: No, no, no.

It was, I think it was January.

Anyway, maybe we did
one in an earlier one.

That was, anyway, so, so just to go on.

Mm-hmm.

So that's what was going on is
that you were working through the

process of you being comfortable
bringing this work out to the world.

Right.

And which we talked about
yesterday with a, she, this has

been a, a 15 year plus process.

Like you had Evolution energetics ready to
go, ready to bring the world 15 years ago.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: You did not because
you realized you were not ready.

Audree: Right.

Michael: So this whole process, so,

Audree: and it turns out I wasn't,

Michael: so it turns out correct.

Yeah.

Good.

Good call.

Audree: Fun fact.

Michael: Fun fact.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So good call.

So, so if you wanna look at the,
the, from your perspective, I dunno

what's going on from me, but from your
perspective, it's very clear that you

just, when you are a hundred percent
comfortable bringing this work out to the

world, knowing the impact it will have.

Then things will unlock.

Audree: That's not it though.

Michael: Oh, okay.

Audree: I'm just letting you
know I already have that.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: So that's just
a very surface level.

If I go deeper, like I
know this work works.

I'm excited about it.

I wish everybody had this yet
I need to go deeper and deeper.

Underneath there's, there's,
there's something active in my

being that's like, I could feel it.

It's in my heart, it's on my right side.

Which is my side of action,
and it's like I feel nauseous.

Michael: Uh, you know how it
manifested already in this podcast.

You said, I just want to be in a mountain.

So there's a conflict in your system.

Mm-hmm.

About do I just want to be in
stillness and peace, or do I want to

be in the world taking action Now,
the fun fact is you're incarnated.

It to be in action to bring
this workout to the world.

So, so really what I'm,
I'm hypothesizing is right,

Audree: because I have it right.

Angle cross of, of explanation.

Explanation.

And I have freak to genius channel.

Michael: Exactly right.

To explain to humanity what it means.

Okay.

So what if it were true that
that's the conflict that you're

in, resistance to your own,

Audree: that's what I'm

Michael: saying, purpose
and your own mission.

Audree: That's what I
wrote on the Slack channel.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: We, it's an in,
it's all an inward turn,

Michael: right?

Audree: All.

Oh my gosh.

Agenda is an inward turn.

It

Michael: is not even, it's not even

Audree: my Thank you.

Thank you people for listening to this
podcast so I can work through my shit.

Michael: Yeah, yeah.

So what I'm realizing now
is it's not even my problem.

Because I'm, I'm, I'm back in
the lab now, and I'm so happy.

Like I'm a pig in shit.

Audree: Oh,

Michael: you are?

Like, and I'm like, next, and it's like,
oh, launching this work is not my problem.

I don't need to do this anymore.

Woo-hoo.

Like, like, I'm, I'm free, I'm liberated.

I'm so sorry.

You're the one left with it.

But you're not alone.

Audree: Wow.

When I got rid of the problem, then
I knew the only person left was me.

So my whole entire agenda.

So I'm using my own life experience,
my own evolution to talk about

evolution for other people.

Hold on.

There's something coming through.

This is it is that it feels weird and
wonky when you start stepping into

functioning in a completely different
way and you could no longer rely on all

the structures and what had come before,
like business practices, marketing.

Website.

Michael: Website copy, website copy,

Audree: everything.

It's like even how are you showing
up to your life becomes this dance

between wanting to do it the way
it's always been done and knowing.

It can't be that way.

You have to totally let it go.

And when you let go of all the old
structures, 'cause you know they were

in the deviation, you know, they were
distorted codes, you know that they were

subconscious behavior patterns that were
locked in, low vibrational frequency.

You know, nothing that you've ever tried.

It didn't work.

It's not working, it's still not working.

Like, you can make, you know, hundreds
of millions of dollars, but your, your

marriage falls apart or you know, like

Michael: your kids don't talk to you.

Audree: Exactly.

It's like

everything, the way we
functioned as society.

And that's why you start.

You, you live.

You know, that's why I wanna be on the
mountain because the mountain's quiet.

The mountain's not expecting anything
of me Sitting in stillness and taking

no action requires nothing from me.

It doesn't require me to step
out into this high state of

consciousness and function.

And maintain that state of consciousness
while, while taking action.

Michael: So you're saying that
Yogis on the Mountain had it easy.

Audree: Very easy.

Michael: And it was perfect for
that time during the deviation.

That was actually what was needed
to help maintain and hold a

higher state of frequency or, uh,
and some, some, some access to.

The original intention
during the deviation.

So is that

was

Audree: correct?

Well, the energy has
always been on the planet.

Nope.

It's not that it ever left, it was
just being held in certain places.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So, uh, so yeah, if you think that
it's correct for you to go sit in a

monastery, it probably isn't true.

It's probably good to look at your
incarnation design, your human design.

Well,

Audree: I have the pulse.

Michael: You know what,

Audree: I, I was already
identified by a, a very famous AIC

Michael: doctor Yes.

Audree: Doctor in India that
I do, I have the pulse Uhhuh.

So technically I could just

Michael: Yes.

Audree: Go into the Himalayas.

Yes.

And sit in the mountain.

Michael: Yeah.

Well, I know you can.

And wait, you know what I
realized it's really funny.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: I dunno when this was a few
months ago, you sent me this, uh,

this uh, I dunno, this marketing thing
about, oh, you should, uh, you know,

the way that, the way that to do.

Social media, or I dunno, whether it's
podcast or newsletters or whatever,

is to bring people on the journey
while you're building your product.

And I thought, oh, I thought,
oh, that's an interesting idea.

And what I realized

Audree: now, oh my God,
that's what we're doing.

Michael: We're we're bringing
people along the journey while

we're building the product, right?

Like, and so, so I just
wanted let you know,

Audree: surprise

Michael: that the thing you sent me,
I, I did pay attention to it and I was

like, okay, I don't know how this fits
and it's actually happening right now.

That we're bringing people along the
journey and being open about what's going

on, the bumps and the, the twists and the
turns as we're building out the product.

Fun fact,

fun fact.

So, so at this point, then now it's
become from this intractable problem to

a very tractable, pro tractable problem.

While there may be timing factors,
you also know what's in front of you.

And what, what needs to be moved through?

Audree: Well, I

Michael: love, so I'd say problem solved,
you know, the problem, problem solving.

Yeah.

Audree: I mean,

Michael: does that feel
right in your system or is it

Audree: something

Michael: different?

Well, I,

Audree: so I know that there, I,
I identified the trigger within my

system, um, that probably still needs
addressing yet it also, at the same

time, things are happening so fast that.

While we were speaking, I was
actually identified the, the

uncomfortable feeling in my body.

And then all of a sudden it's like
I could tell that it went from 100%

to, right now it's like at 10%.

Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: So I could still feel it.

It's there, but it's not as,
uh, prevalent in my system.

Like it moved very, very
quickly from awareness to.

Almost being gone within seconds.

And at the same time, um, the insight
that I had about myofascial release.

Michael: Oh, that's brilliant.

That's, that's the, that's the
marketing approach right there.

Audree: Well.

And our, our marketing voice has always
been powerful, rich and deep or slow.

Rich and deep.

Like we've always, and we've always had
that problem hiring a marketing person

because they don't function that way

Michael: Well.

We, well, I think the problem is
us 'cause we haven't been clear.

So if you took,

Audree: well, we've been
in conflict obviously.

Michael: Right, right

Audree: between the two worlds.

It's, it's, it's not

Michael: just the two worlds.

How would you characterize the myofascial,
if you, you put the three words for

describing that, what would that be?

Audree: Slow, rich, deep.

Like it's slow intent, intentional.

It's rich, rich, intentional.

Are the same, means the same for me.

Michael: Oh, swell.

Rich deep is powerful.

Audree: Yeah,

Michael: but is not trying to be powerful.

Audree: Right.

It's evolutionary leadership.

You know how powerful
evolutionary leadership is.

And evolutionary leaders
are very still and present.

Michael: They're slow, rich, deep.

Audree: Yeah.

It's all the same.

Michael: Oh,

Audree: like we're moving from a
traditional way of functioning into

an evolutionary way of functioning.

Michael: It's operating on a
different mechanic of creation.

Mm-hmm.

And we teach this push creates resistance.

Right.

And so what happens is,

oh, okay.

I'm, I'm getting the whole,
the whole structure now.

So, so what happens is.

So push creates resistance.

So what, what, and this is what's
taught, if you look at the money

lines with human design, or you
look at scarcity based marketing,

countdown timers, buy now, discount
now only available, da, da, da, da.

All this sort of stuff.

Mm-hmm.

What all of that's doing is
activating, um, the, the fear

response and manipulating the person.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: So all of.

Sort of traditional
marketing is manipulation,

Audree: and that's what we do not want

Michael: is manipulation is using and
activating low frequencies in the being.

Audree: Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Go ahead.

Sorry.

Michael: And I don't wanna, and
I don't wanna like white, white,

like brush all of marketing.

There's some really marketing beautiful
and high vibrational and gorgeous.

But I'm saying the general structure.

Of a lot of what happens is that low
frequency and, and what, and what

we're talking about is moving to
a very, like a pull based system.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Where it's like

Audree: we are inspiring people
to make a choice to evolve.

And so I wanted to, I I noticed
that I was using negative language

Michael: Oh, oops.

Audree: Of um, saying what we do not want.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And so I'm gonna go
to what we do want, and our

intention is only to inspire.

It's like the, the beginning part of the
playbook is like healthy relationship

and how can I help you be successful?

Like that's what that is.

That, that inspiration to build desire.

To build passion.

Like I, oh

Michael: my gosh, do you under,
so, so when we look at that, that's

what the transformational audios do.

Audree: Yes.

It's

Michael: like, it's, it's
giving people a benefit.

So that they have a, a, a
relationship and a trust of the

system or even these podcasts, right?

They're all fulfilling that role.

Audree: Right?

I, I, I said, what does it take to evolve?

A choice to transform desire
and unwavering passion.

The courage to take full responsibility
that you are the problem and the solution.

High vibrational frequency
to burnout structures and

energetic blocks and obstacles.

That's like the lower vibrational
frequency or deviation structures.

Michael: Oh, you know, I just,

Audree: the knowing you are meant for
something greater and it's possible.

With the correct knowledge
tools and techniques.

Michael: Yeah.

You know what?

I just realized

Audree: what

Michael: with your, the
problem, you have the solution.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: We're going to the, the negative.

Audree: Ooh.

Michael: And that it's actually,
it's the, the, the, the, the higher

frequency reframe is you hold
the, the keys to the solution.

Audree: I'm gonna write that down.

That you,

Michael: so, so everybody holds,

Audree: hold the keys.

Michael: This is actually
really, really beautiful.

It's coming in.

Well, this

Audree: is true.

Michael: Everyone holds the keys
and we are giving people the, the,

the means to activate those keys.

But, but they hold the keys.

Like everybody holds the keys
to their own self mastery.

We're just helping activate those keys.

But it's their keys.

They have it all

Audree: we support.

Michael: They're the one who have
to walk and open through the door,

go through the gates of choice,
through the portals of evolution.

Audree: That's true.

Michael: They have the capabilities,
they have the keys, they have everything,

and we're just awakening the knowledge
within them of their own capability.

Of their own capacity for evolution
into their own greatness, into their

own creating of their life experience.

Consciously.

Audree: I think I need the transcript
so I can put it on the website.

Michael: The real reason
we're doing our podcast.

Audree: Exactly.

I told you.

So what was your agenda

Michael: again?

Audree: That was my agenda

Michael: to solve this problem.

Audree: To solve the, the issue, the
problem that I was, that I was facing.

Michael: Okay.

And do you feel like it's solved now?

Audree: Yeah.

I

Michael: feel like we've gotten a,
we feel like it's, it's like done.

Like that's it.

Audree: Feel very clear

Michael: and we're 53 minutes,
so I think we should just do

the, uh, closing remarks and then

Audree: I think, I think, um.

I'm also excited about doing the E
two mantra transmission because that's

where I feel like just being in that,
being on the mountain in stillness.

Yeah.

Like that's my sweet spot.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And so it feels like when,
when you said, oh, the free experience

on the website, and now I even think
about the transformational audios or.

Um, the, the meditations that we
do, the live ones, it's like, that's

the heat, that's the energetic
frequency that begins to soften.

The myofascia so that the thumb
can sink into the muscle tissue.

And so then the muscle
releases automatically.

Right?

It releases automatically.

Michael: Wait, wait, wait.

We're not working with the mind.

We're working with the
energetics and the physiology.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: So the only reason
for the webpage is to get

people to the experience.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And give them some context.

Audree: Yeah, and the experience is free.

Like we're not asking a lot from people.

We're just saying try it for yourself.

It's a whole, it's a different approach.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: It's very gentle.

Michael: And I'm actually thinking we
switch out the grounding part one and

just have the mantra transmission.

Something to think about.

Maybe we have both.

I don't know

Audree: the, is the grounding
part one on the website?

Michael: Yes, yes, yes.

Audree: I haven't seen it.

Michael: It's on the YouTube page.

Audree: Oh, that's why.

'cause I haven't touched
the E two page yet.

Okay.

Um,

Michael: alright, so any closing remarks?

Well, I'd say everyone, you
know, thanks for listening.

This is the, uh, this is,
this is, this is Life.

Thank you.

This is life.

Thank

Audree: you

Michael: in our house

Audree: for sorting out our,
our, our, our business problems.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so this is how it goes
is, is it's not perfect.

It's not.

Audree: This is what

Michael: we

Audree: do in our living room.

It's what?

Oh, it's 9, 9 11 right now.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Magic number.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: Um,

Michael: so let's close.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: All right.

We'll close with three
minutes of E two Mantra.

Audree: Hmm.

Michael: Here we go.

Audree: Thanks for playing.

Michael: Thank you for joining us.

Let's be evolutionary.

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