B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So saying to Audrey, Hey,
we should talk and have a podcast

episode about Perce, how perception
creates reality, how, what changing

your reality, what it really means.

And, and she goes, okay, let's start.

I'm like, oh, I don't
want to do this right now.

I, I, I like, I feel
like death warmed over.

I have a very, very physical purification
process going on, and even my voice

sounds funny and I'm like, uh, and
I was like, well, okay, why not?

What time, like the present

Audree: and it's a, it's a
misty New England morning.

Michael: Sure is.

Hmm.

So why I thought this was an important
topic is because all the stories I made

up in my mind or heard from other sources
of what changing our reality means

isn't actually what the experience is.

So.

And, and, and this is important
because when we have misperceptions,

we have incorrect beliefs in our field.

Those are actually limiting factors
in allowing the reality that

actually is there to unfold and us
to, to experience what's, what's

there for us in this lifetime.

So the, the main thing that I, that
I, so I guess we could start with

this whole journey by talking about
what does it mean, what does changing

your reality mean from step one?

You know, people think changing your
reality means, oh, okay, well I'm gonna

fundamentally have my life change and
now it's gonna be this miraculous thing.

And while ultimately that's true, what
I've experienced has been quite different.

It's been this gradual
step by step process.

And I think the starting place,
and we do this, you know, at the

very, very beginning is very,
you know, there, there's all

these times in our lives where.

You know, we think something's one way
and then all of a sudden we discover, oh,

what we thought in our head about the way
things work isn't how it actually works.

And then at that point, our,
our map of reality gets rewired.

This is what we call unlearning.

And so there's this process we
do of understanding the beliefs.

Some of the, many of the beliefs
in our head are not even correct.

And when we have correct beliefs and start
to perceive other people, other situations

correctly, we suddenly get to interact
with the world in a much better way.

When we interact with the world in
a much better way, we're creating

a new reality for ourselves.

'cause we're no longer operating
out of a distorted map.

Audree: So let's go back to why
would anybody want to explore the

possibility of changing your reality?

Michael: Well, everybody wants it.

I mean, they, they just don't
understand it from that title.

Everybody wants to have
a better relationship.

Everybody wants to have better
physical health or get rid

of certain health issues.

Everybody wants to have more wealth.

Pretty much.

Mm-hmm.

Not everybody, I mean, there's
a few, you know, small percent.

Audree: Well, it, it's like,
it's not just basic survival.

Michael: Everybody wants to feel better.

Everyone wants to have this, you
know, unworthiness or shame or you

know, or guilt that pervades them at
times to go away and never come back.

Audree: Most people don't know, don't
have that unworthiness or shame or

guilt or anything like that, or,

Michael: well, everybody knows they
have these reactive patterns where

they cause destruction and they feel
bad about it, and everybody has those.

Everybody and even people who are in
high levels of self-deception, denial

of what's going on in their lives,
understand that something feels off.

It's interesting.

It's so enc coded in our society.

Audree: How about more
simple, uh, more, uh, simple.

Like you're going into the, like,
the why it's people feel like they

can't change their circumstances.

That's, I think that's
what we're talking about.

I'm not talking about like the why,
like what's the driving s sabotaging

patterns that are behind, you
know, creating your circumstances

or changing your circumstances.

I'm talking about the, just the very
simple, like, you work, work, work and

it's you, you're not taking a vacation
or you can't afford a vacation or you

can, you're doing really well at work and
you're, you can take these vacations and.

There's this promotion that you want
or there's something in your life

that you wanna achieve and it seems
out of reach, or it seems like your

circumstances can't instantly change.

They're not instantly changing,
or you believe that they can't,

and it's just the way it is.

I think we've become complacent to
seeing our external circumstances

as this is just the way it is.

Or, oh, I could, you know, I wanna
manifest something in my life.

Oh, I, I, I do, I jump into the vortex
or I do these affirmations, or, you know,

I just need to try harder, work harder.

Like, we have all these misconceptions,
and I think that's what we're speaking to.

We're speaking to the misconceptions
that we have about changing

our circumstances, right?

Which we call

Michael: reality.

Audree: Reality.

Michael: Well, so even, even
if you go deeper level of

that, it's like, well, why?

Why do I want that specific outcome?

Oh, it's so I feel better,
so I'm happy, right?

Mm-hmm.

And so if we actually peel back the
layer, it's like, well, wait a second.

If you look at your life,
nothing's ever made you happy ever.

Like, some things make you happy
for a bit and you enjoy it,

and you feel comfortable there.

But that, that, that, that, but
still, every day, even after you've

had your successful outcome, there
are people showing up in your

life that are pissing you off.

You're still frustrated about things.

You know, there, you're, you still
have your downs in these moments

that, you know, you, you, which you're
just really like getting to you.

Oh, remember the chef movie?

You're the guru taxi driver.

You're not, not getting to me.

You're not.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Right.

Audree: Yeah.

Now you're, you're sounding like
you're Indian taxi guru driver.

Michael: So, so, anyway, so that's

Audree: the Indian guru taxi driver.

See,

it's a little fuzzy today.

Michael: Yeah.

It's very fuzzy today.

So that's what I'm getting
at, is that you could

Audree: talk like him if you want.

Michael: Yeah.

Okay.

Audrey, you don't have to
whisper everyone, hear you.

Oh, so, so that's what it is, right?

We're talking about.

A, a change of reality
both internal and external.

You

Audree: know what

Michael: I'm getting?

'cause they're, they're,
they're connected.

If

Audree: we keep calling it reality,
it's whatever's in front of us.

It's making it real.

Michael: Oh, you know what we call it?

Our experience.

Audree: Shit.

Michael: We should stop
calling it reality.

Audree: I know.

Michael: It's really

Audree: what, you know, the, she are very,
very clear about the English language

keeps you locked in the deviation.

Michael: Keeps you locked in suffering.

Locked in challenge.

Yeah.

Locked in struggle.

Audree: So if we call it
reality, we keep making it it

Michael: real,

Audree: real fudge.

Michael: That's not normally what you say.

Audree: No, I'm from Chicago.

That's what I always say.

You could always tell a girl from Chicago
in a bar because she'll be surrounded by

five guys talking like a truck driver.

And then, 'cause there's a lot of,
there's a lot of kids that come from

like Michigan and Iowa to go to school
in Chicago and they're more reserved.

Michael: Yeah.

Not a fact

Audree: back in the day.

Hmm.

Michael: So, so I'm just getting
this, this insight now is, so

we're really talking about what is
our experience of life is we want

our experience of life to change.

Audree: Oh my god.

Michael: Feel.

Right?

Does that feel so much better?

Audree: Feel that it feels so much better?

Michael: I mean, we need
to change our website.

Audree: I think we do.

Michael: We have reality
all over the place.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: To experience of life.

Why we do podcasts?

Figure out what to do for our market.

Audree: Why do you
think we're doing these?

Michael: Because it's a side effect.

Audree: I don't think
anybody's listening anyways.

That's okay.

No,

Michael: no.

They are.

We're just

Audree: talking to ourselves.

Michael: Ive got analytical
proof, although, whatever.

Anyway, so on target leader, okay,
so changing our experience of

life, so the experience of life,
we have the ability to change it.

Ultimately, we're the ones creating it.

Although we don't
understand that to be true.

And so what we do is we learn how we are
creating a reality in little baby steps.

Audree: Our experience,

Michael: oh shoot so hard.

Okay, well this is day one.

Our experience of life.

We can change that.

You have the power to change your
experience of life step by step.

It starts in very small ways
where you start to see how.

What's coming at us.

We are the ones creating it
because we're the ones putting

out what we call these red arrows.

We're the ones when we project negative
energy in the world, the world and

like through the people around us,
just reflect it back us back at us,

Audree: our thoughts, our belief
systems, and our perceptions.

Michael: Right?

So

Audree: think about this are the very
thing that is moving the energetic

structures to create our life experience.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Have I ever told the story about
my son in the, in, when he was paralyzed?

Michael: I think we can stay to
the main topic because that goes to

like all the way to the, the root.

Cause they save that for
later in the podcast.

Audree: Okay.

Michael: It it, it'll fit here though.

Audree: Stay tuned.

Michael: Yeah.

So if you think about it, you know, we can
say, well, how am I creating my reality?

Well, when you have a reactive
pattern, we'll say you shout at

someone or you snap or you grow.

Audree: Are you, you get
angry or frustrated about the

situation or the person or

Michael: you're hurt and you go silent.

What you're doing in that moment is
you're energetically, you're projecting

out a low frequency energy that's gonna
activate low frequency on people around

you, in the situation around you.

At a cognitive level that's gonna have
an impact is gonna trigger them, activate

their defensive mechanisms and then, and
that's what you're gonna come back to you.

And so what we start to do
as we take responsibility,

Audree: this is what we teach
in our level one course.

Yeah.

Michael: As we start to take
responsibility, be sorry.

So taking responsibility,
starting to become aware.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Of how we are creating our
experience, experience moment to moment.

How we are the ones directly
shaping what we are experiencing.

'cause we're the ones putting that
energy into the system around us and

the system's just giving it back to us.

So we start to look at, oh my, you
can call this mindfulness on steroids.

I, it's becoming aware
at a very deep level.

We're not talking about fixing anything.

Just please be clear.

The very starting place of changing
our experience of life is to

become aware of what we're doing.

And through the, even just that
process of awareness, there's a

natural cessation that happens.

And so this is what we
mean by having the tools.

When you have the tools of awareness
and understand how to apply them and

harness them in a very practical way
in your daily life, your daily life

immediately becomes your evolution
program that allows you to day by

day improve your experience of life.

Audree: That's why

Michael: that's just a small one, small
example, right, of one technology.

Audree: So what we say is awareness is
the primary mechanism for evolution.

All of these.

Uh, personal growth teachings,
spiritual teachings.

There's all these different technologies
like mindfulness and such and such.

Everybody is using awareness.

I don't know because I haven't
studied with them how deep they

go into why they use awareness.

I know from, from our perspective or
from our education, we learned the

mechanics of why awareness works.

But even the monks alluded to
it, they didn't tell us outright,

this is why awareness works.

They just told us these weird
stories or had us watch these videos

like the young experiment, like.

I if, if you like, with eyes
to see and ears to hear.

If you get it, you get it.

And if you don't, oh, well, and so what
I started to understand, and you started

to understand too, was that awareness is
the technology to shift consciousness.

Michael: Well, that's the download
of technology we received.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: It's just one of the downloads.

And so taking from that, I think
that's kind of how this all started.

It's, we were actually studying,
uh, in India and learning

about awareness and practicing.

And we had these great, you know,
advancements when we were there.

And then we, and then I came
back to my regular life and I

go, well, what do I do today?

And that's where the, the, we started
to receive the downloads of, of, of

the ification or the codification of
these very pure simple practices that

when we use them and understand them,
that's what gives us the ability to.

Rewire our experience of life day by day.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: Right.

So this is where it's
things like unlearning.

Every time you're in an argument, you can
suddenly start to see, oh, wait a second.

If I'm in an argument, if I'm debating
something, if I'm not, if other people

aren't in agreement with me, it's not,
there's something wrong with them.

It means that the model in my head
is different from the model in

their head, and that I'm attached
to my model and I'm demanding them.

Agree to my model of, of perception
of now we can talk about reality now

my perception of what the material
world is and what the facts are.

Actually, I'll avoid that word.

Uh, what the material world is and
what, what the, what the, the, the

important data about the situation is.

And they're demanding that
I go to their perspective.

And what we can see here is that I
have an attachment to my perspective.

And because I have an attachment
to my perspective, I'm creating

a ripple in the energetic field.

I'm allowing this conflict to.

To be there and even to escalate.

And I may even be escalating it.

Audree: Well, they're gonna
mirror your behavior because

it's, it's actually inside of you.

So it's, if it's inside of you,
it's gonna be outside of you.

Michael: Right.

So, so while, let's say somebody from
a Buddhist lineage may have heard of

beginner's mind as a concept and they,
they tried to do that or whatever.

I don't know what the,
the teachings there are.

What we're talking about is,
how do I put that into practice?

Audree: Did I mute myself?

Michael: Yes.

Good.

How do I, how do I put that into
practice immediately in my day and

use that as my evolutionary path?

And that's what the, the level of power
of the, the, the, that, that is needed.

'cause then as soon as I start to
say, wait a second, I've, I've noticed

I'm caught up in this argument.

Wow, the energy's gone south,
is really poor right now.

And wow, I'm, I'm co-creating
this with this other person.

Anyone who's in a relationship
knows, knows this one where

you go down the tunnel and it
gets worse and worse and worse.

And so what we're doing is you
can say, well, wait a second.

What is, what is the belief
that I'm attached to?

And what if we're true?

The other person is, is saying is true.

This is actually the, this is the secret
to life is that it's not usually what

we don't know that's gonna hurt us.

It's what we think we know that
isn't actually true, or isn't

fully true, or isn't true in the
full context that we think it is.

And when we start to question our own
beliefs and assumptions, which is the

point of beginner's mind, we're open to
all possibilities and all perspectives.

That's where we start to let go of
these limiting perspectives we hold,

where then our perspective shifts
and we experience life differently.

We can experience life from a life of
conflict attached to these belief systems,

to a life of flow and peace and harmony.

It's, oh, this person believes
something different than I believe.

Okay, cool.

And we're okay with that.

Of course.

As you start to do this, you wait
a second, you start to get notice.

You're getting pulled down the
rabbit hole where it's like, wait

a second, I'm actually not okay
with how the other person believes.

Oh, I actually want everyone
else to believe what I believe.

And you start to notice, and the ego
structure that has you in this loop

in consciousness is suddenly revealed.

And you go, wait a second.

I'm not in control of my life.

There are things happening here that I,
even though I'm now having awareness of

it, my perception of reality is changing.

I now discover, not 'cause somebody
told me, but now through my own use of

these tools, I discover my experience of
life is something that's being created

inside of me, or at least what's inside
of me is playing a significant role.

You go, oh.

I don't want to do this anymore.

And then you go on with the journey
and you learn new tools and you

start deconstructing this mechanism
intentionally of the looping

consciousness step by step by step.

And every time you take one
more step, your whole perception

of life changes the moment.

For example, when you discover
that your push, your desire to

create an outcome, right now you
can think of an outcome you want.

And what if you could just unpack
that and find the block you

have within that desire itself?

Whoa.

Audree: Right?

'cause the very desire for
this outcome is the block

Michael: contains the block within it.

So it's not that you can't have
that outcome, it's just that

within that desire, there's a
mechanism of the ego consciousness.

Which, uh, our guides have
been calling a gas break.

You have the gas, you want the outcome,
but within it, there's the, oh, I can't

have this, or I don't deserve this.

There's something there.

That's the break.

And so when you can suddenly start
to see what's there and you undo

those roots, then guess what?

Your experience of life will change
because you've removed the breaks on

the things that you want to create, and
then suddenly life begins to flow more.

And what, what this whole process is
starting to do is taking you outta a

position, which is the one we're born
into within our society, within this

slavery, to the egoic consciousness
of, of being a victim of life, to

moving and understanding what is the
flow of life, and learning how to

flow with life to achieve and having
mastery to achieve what we want to

achieve and create in this lifetime.

Right.

Audree: Mastery of creating our
life experience is our birthright.

And this knowledge has just been taken,

Michael: right?

So this is why we say no one can give
this to you because you are doing it to

it yourself through your misperceptions.

You're creating your life reality
through your misperceptions.

Like why do,

Audree: it's not just misperceptions,
because it's so, there's these tightly

wound energetic structures that
have been the, the misperceptions

or the hurt or the wounding.

All of this has been wrapping up inside
of your being for a very, very long time.

Michael: Lifetimes.

Audree: Lifetimes.

So,

Michael: fun fact,

Audree: there is an unraveling
that has to happen with those,

um, nodded energetic structures.

Mm-hmm.

And this is what, this is what has
been missing, those missing pieces of.

Like, we've just been working on the
surface of the mechanics of creation and

Michael: with a partial understanding
with the distortions and,

Audree: right.

So now what we're doing is we're
just, we're just kind of moving down

through that surface level and we're
moving deeper into the mechanics of

creation and how we're constructed
and how, I wanna say reality, but how

Michael: mechanics of creation.

The material plane.

Audree: Yes.

The, yeah, I was trying not to
get too woowoo, but that's okay.

Michael: Well, that's not woowoo,
that's actually what it is.

Audree: I know.

I know.

Michael: See, woo woo, woo woo.

Oh, this is woowoo and this is new age.

Oh, that's bad.

That's a, that's a perception system
that prevents people that, that

says, oh, I'm gonna put up my hand.

I wanna stay in traditional
thinking and I wanna stay limited.

Anybody who uses the term WOOWOO or new
age is saying, I wanna stay limited.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Wow.

Audree: Thank you.

Michael: So yeah, so let's use the
correct terminology for what it is.

I think I had that come up yesterday
and saying, oh, this is, feels

like a kind of a new agey term.

And it's like, no, no, no.

This is a correct technical term.

We're going to use this term here.

I can't remember what the term was.

Something with evolutionary energetics.

Audree: Yeah,

Michael: yeah.

So, yeah.

So this is very exciting.

Uh,

very exciting.

Oh, so yeah, so that's
what I wanted to say.

So Audrey was talking about, well,
it's the not just perception, it's,

it's the energetic Well, it's, it's,
it's actually much more complex

than that even we're talking about.

So, so why are we talking
about perception at all?

We're talking about?

Well, 'cause your perception is where
you start to hack into the system.

That's why we say it's not just
evolutionary living, which is

where we start to learn the power
of awareness and how to put that

in direct application in our life.

But evolutionary genetics is, is, is,
is cleaning up the energetic foundation.

So, just a second.

Pick me.

So what, what's required is a
purification of what's called

our energy body, emotional body,
mental body and physical body.

Now, it turns out the mental body
and the, the, the emotional body are

actually just kind of, we can think
of them conceptually, but really it's

just energetics and physical structures
with inner physiology at the, at the

actual implementation level structures.

And

Audree: so

Michael: that's

Audree: what I wanna say.

This is why energy is so
important, because your

thoughts, so your perceptions.

Your belief systems and your
thoughts are all linked together,

and that is what moves energy.

That's your con your consciousness.

So it's like that is
what is moving energy.

And when you have an understanding of
the mechanics of creation, the mechanics

of actually how you really function,
that is why looking at perceptions

or looking at thoughts and looking at
belief systems becomes so important.

Michael: Right?

And so, so what I'm getting right now is
we're talking about learning how you like.

So imagine, imagine if you have
this complex machine in your office,

you need somebody who understands
the machine to operate it properly.

You know, everyone else goes, oh
no, we're gonna get Joe to do it.

'cause Joe's the expert with
the machine, this complex

Audree: machine.

That's why people are
studying AI right now.

Michael: Let me let, let me So, so, so
in this metaphor, you body, your being,

this, your existence is a complex machine.

And you do not know how to understand it.

And so you're using this complex
machine and creating the experiences

you create based on your limited
understanding of how this machine works.

Mm-hmm.

And why self-mastery is required.

I'm just getting this, is because you
need to understand how your machine

works in order to operate it properly.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

That's the operating manual

Michael: and the way you're living
your life now is your conditioned

way that you've been trained
to by society operating in the

deviation that doesn't know how
the machine's supposed to operate.

And that's why it's there.

There's this rewiring
of perception or belief

Audree: systems's, what is, it's
just you're going mindlessly

through life without examining the
fun, like how life actually works.

Michael: So, so let's take with the main
topic of, of how the journey of, well,

I know it doesn't matter where we go.

But anyway, so, so what I'm
seeing here now is that.

That, that's these deep allegiance
we have to not understanding how

we function as a human being.

Mm-hmm.

Audree: We wanna be distracted, we wanna
be unaware, we don't wanna be bothered.

Michael: Oh, and you know what?

We don't wanna put in the effort.

Mm-hmm.

Michael, you're talking about my,
my existence, my beingness is a

complex system and that I can learn
how to understand it step by step.

And I have to put an effort.

I don't wanna put an effort.

Mm-hmm.

I don't wanna understand how I,
I function so I can create a new,

new experience of life for myself.

That sounds like a hard work.

Can't you just like, make it easy?

Audree: Give me, yeah.

Give me a audio.

Michael: Yeah.

Well, we have the audios for that reason.

That's how you start
because that's, that's okay.

Great.

You don't wanna put an effort,
well just listen to this audio.

Right.

Just play

Audree: it and, and do nothing else
and have a minimal amount of change.

Michael: Yeah.

And some of them are even passive.

You don't even need to do anything.

They just, it gets done for you.

Yeah.

So, so that, so that's the, the, the rub.

Anyway, so let, assuming you're listening
to this, which you probably are, you, you,

you already are interested in creating,
changing your experience of life.

You already are putting in effort.

So let's go back to the main topic
of what are the shifts in, in how

do we experience this change of,
of experience, of, of life, right?

How do we experience that?

We started talking about
the very first early steps.

We started talking about, you know,
some more advanced things where we

start to understand how our desires
are actually created, the block in our

system, how we can start to impact that.

And going further on the journey.

When we think about, let's say
the end point is we are creator

consciousness able to materialize things
immediately just based on thought.

And, you know, that's, you know,
where we were a long, long time ago,

potentially in, in human history and.

If we sort of rewind that,
well, how do we get to be there?

We get to be there by understanding
that our internal state of functioning,

the vibrational frequency we hold,
the frequency of the thoughts

we're holding, the frequency of our
emotions, of our state of being is

the primary governing factor of the
experience of life that comes to us.

So it it's, it's like this.

If you wanna think about a, okay, 'cause
this is old school, this may not work for

the young kids, but a radio station where
you tune into a radio station, it's like,

what we're doing is we're shifting the
tuning of the radio station to frequencies

that are higher and higher and higher.

And as we're shifting it, which is
a shift in our energetic structure,

that's why the energetics matter.

It's a shift in our physicality.

That's why our perceptions, um, our
emotions, that's why that all matters,

our physiology that, so we're, as we
as all of that shifts in frequency, the

whole integrated system of what we are.

To higher and higher frequencies.

What happens is the universe
around us is responding to the

frequency we're operating at.

So, and this is, I can, I can make
this very simple, very simple example.

Let's imagine day one you're in a really
bad mood and it's like your pig pen

from the peanuts and you've got this
cloud of darkness around you and it's

people, you know, people will run away
from you and that's the day you create.

The next day you're feeling
so good and you're happy.

And every you can see that and say,
thank goodness, you know, they got over

whatever was going on for 'em yesterday.

And you know, you're having these
great conversations and you have a

fantastic day and the day flows by
and it's over before you know it.

So the question is, what's the
difference between day one and day two?

It's you and the frequency
you are operating at.

And so what we're talking about.

Is not trying to, you know, 'cause
you can't really kind of just fake it.

Oh, I'll just pretend I'm happy today.

'cause that'll, you know, everyone
will know that's not true and everyone

can feel what's going on Anyway.

So what we're talking about is, is
permanently shifting your baseline

step by step, which means being
aware of what's happening with your,

your functioning and, and so we're
talking about your inner experience.

When you start, when this is what we train
on, when you start to harness and target

on that, you understand that's what is
creating the outer experience of life.

Audree: What I wanted to say was, we're
not the only ones talking about this.

Michael: No, we're not.

This is, I mean, thank

Audree: goodness that, and this
is, this is a, this is like a known

aspect of how this universe functions,
is it functions on frequency.

So what's really interesting
is that, um, well

Michael: this is my point is,
is yes, and we need the specific

mechanics, we need the specific tools.

We need the specific step by
step of this is what I do today.

In my life when the situation
is happening, to recover from a

low frequency or to understand
when a situation is going south.

Mm-hmm.

How I am the one that's doing it.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And this is in a lot of ways the
missing piece is the self responsibility.

A lot of people are ready to, you
know, want to create the change in

their experience of life, however,
haven't been able to fully step into

taking the ownership, or even if
they want to, they haven't had the

tools and mechanisms, the mechanics.

Audree: So we're gonna go back
to, if we're talking about

shifting the frequency, what is
needed to shift the frequency.

And that is evolutionary energetics
is the mechanism that will shift

your frequency in a radically new
way that hasn't been provided before.

So all these other people that are
jumping into the vortex, or even

they're being supernatural or,
you know, I am, I'm mentioning.

Other teachers and other teachings,

Michael: et cetera, et cetera,

Audree: et cetera, is that what
the issue here is, is that those

teachings are directly created
within the deviation itself.

And so what they're doing is that
not their fault, but they're taking

these ancient teachings of kundalini,
of the, the, the energy body, the

energy field, that was, that these
teachings, while they're, they're

kind of reinventing those teachings to
provide for a life experience change.

Now, these teachings
are based on a system.

That was shut down.

So they're only using 2% of that
system to shift the frequency.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Where evolutionary energetics,
the system that I downloaded this

information in, you know, starting
in 2008, well really starting in 2 0

4, but I started seeing the system in
between 2 0 0 8 and 2 0 0 9, and then

was getting information about it and
learning how to use it for healing.

What.

What was happening is evolutionary
energetics is the activation and the

upgrade in our energetic anatomy to
harness high vibrational frequency.

So if you do not have your system
open, you know, you're trying to get

to this high vibrational frequency to
change your life experience and you're,

you're, you keep hitting a brick wall.

Michael: You know, you know what?

I got the metaphor of

Audree: what

Michael: it's, it's that there are
a lot of people who've put a lot

of time and a lot of energy and
they haven't even been in the game.

It's almost like, you know,
if you have a casino mm-hmm.

You can only get to the
small, small betting tables.

If you want to go in the back room where
the real, real action is, you have to

have a certain amount of money, right?

Mm-hmm.

To get in.

Mm-hmm.

And evolution energetics is
that energetic amount of money.

Yeah.

Right.

It is means you can actually get
into the real program of evolution.

Right.

Not the maintenance structures
that we're here from the deviation.

And I think that's what it is.

It, it is really that
fundamental game changer.

That allows you to have
the energetic foundation to

fundamentally create the shift.

And, and this is where we talk
about evolution energetics is,

is like a, a wine, it's meant
to go with the cheese, right?

Like, or you know, I, or the peanut
butter, the cho chocolate, right?

And so that while energetics is the
fuel that's gonna kind of loosen up

the foundation that's stuck there and
allow everything to come to the surface.

Evolutionary living and evolutionary
design, the rest of the, the

technology that we've downloaded
is what allows that to be accessed,

unpack intentionally and processed.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Right.

So

Audree: it's like with intention,
which is really important.

Michael: It's like evolutionary energetics
gets the raw materially into the factory,

but then the factory needs to do the
work to get the finished, changed

life experience out the other side.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: So it's the starting place,

Audree: right?

Michael: And it's the primer and the fuel.

However, the, the, the core of it, the
factory, if you will, once we have the raw

material of the e energy and energetics,
is to harness it, is through the

self-mastery, is through the understanding
what we call the mechanics of creation,

of how we function as human beings.

There's no alternative but to understand
how you function, because there's no

one doing anything to you that is the,
the ultimate mechanic of creation.

And because there's no one doing it to
you, you are the only one who can undo it.

That's why we say we,
we can't help anybody.

And this has become so clear in our
system since like, was that yesterday,

this profound understanding that we're
offering things to people who want it,

but we, it's not even like necessarily
we can even market this because.

It can only be accessed by people.

We can only help people who are reaching
up their hand to say, Hey, please help me.

Audree: We've been very aware
of this for a very long time.

Michael: Well, you,
you've been more aware.

I've been more unconscious.

Audree: No, you've been frustrated.

I've been frustrated.

And when you cleared your frustration

Michael: Yeah.

Than

Audree: everything changes,
then you can, then you can see.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: So

I, I think,

Michael: oh, I was frustrated, wasn't I?

Audree: Well, I don't even know what
I wanna say here, other than, um,

Michael: well, this is
actually so exciting.

Audree: It, it's very exciting because
we'll go back, we'll go back to, you

know, 2017 sitting in our, the leadership
training course that we were teaching.

And you used to say, you are the
problem and you are the solution.

And it was like my, I remember the
first time I, I sat in your class

and I was there as an observer
and I was like, oh, holy shit.

This is the self-mastery and,
and you know, you are the

problem, you're the solution.

And people are like, oh.

And I'm like, no, don't you understand?

It's the very nature of your ego is
to be in control of every situation.

And we are giving you the key to the car.

And it's not just the old jalopy, you
know, the second car in, in the garage

that your parents are letting you drive
in case you, in case you crash it.

It's like, no, we're
giving you a brand new car.

We're giving you the keys to a
brand new car so you can drive

yourself to wherever you need to go.

It's like your self mastery
when we say you are the problem

and you are the solution.

It's, it's like, oh my
gosh, I'm in control.

And I think we talk about
empowerment, empower the people.

Empower the people.

You know, how are you going to empower
the people when you yourself don't even

know how life works or the universe,
how function universe works, how you

Michael: function

Audree: as you, or how you function
and how you experience life.

And I know for, for Michael and I,
we've been intentionally on this journey

and this journey has been unfolding.

And then even recently, this past
year, we were, we said, okay,

we're gonna put on our website.

What if it were true?

You can shape your reality.

I think it's, or you can create, we
started with you can create your reality.

You can, and now it's like
you can shape your reality.

Like we're trying to, like soften
it or how do we, you know, this

is very confronting to people.

I'm not sure why I think
we're deeply conditioned.

Michael: Well, I, I'll explain.

It came up with you're the
problem, you're the solution.

And so mm-hmm.

In the class, I remember we
said, look, I, I know it feels

lousy that you're the problem.

And you know, emotionally, you know

Audree: you're the one
that's creating Yeah.

You're

Michael: the

Audree: problem.

Inability to deliver product.

Michael: Yeah.

You're seeing how you are the one
creating the blocks in the system.

You are the one limiting
your experience of life.

Right.

You are the one doing it all to yourself.

Audree: It's not the ceo,

Michael: it's your boss,
it's not your life.

And it feels shitty because it's
like, wait a second, it's not me.

I can't blame anyone else.

I can, I can't, I can't
go anywhere with this.

I can't get, I, there's no place to go
other than taking full responsibility.

I said, yeah, yeah.

That's the, that's the,
the, the not so good part.

And when you get over it,
you get to the good part.

The good part is you are the solution.

Feel into, what is it meal like
to know that you are the solution.

Audree: Wait, what did you just,
you just messed your words.

Michael: No, I didn't, did I?

Okay.

I'll say it again.

Yeah.

What if you shift and focus and feel?

What does it feel like to
know you are the solution?

You have the solution within you.

You are not dependent on anyone.

You're not dependent on any external
requirement that you within.

You have the power to change your
experience of life and what is

happening to you, not happening
to you, happening for you.

And when you start to really connect
in with you are the solution,

there's a liberation of energy.

As you reclaim your power, as you stop
self victimizing yourself and you say,

and see, the thing is you can only
claim that power of you as a solution.

When you own your, your, your
power of how you're creating the

problem, they go hand in hand.

And a lot of people just
wanna skip to the good stuff.

Well, how do I manifest?

How do I create my life?

How do I, yada, yada yada?

And the truth is, you can only get that
when you see how you are already creating

Audree: because awareness,

Michael: you already are manifesting
however you're manifesting

from the lower frequencies.

And when you start to see that, you
understand exactly what's going on.

Audree: Because awareness is the
primary mechanism for evolution

Michael: because awareness is the
primary mechanism of evolution.

And even though everything Audrey said
about evolution energetics and how it's

getting in the game is just to get in
the game, it's not the game itself.

It is to get in the game,
support the game, fuel the game.

It's

Audree: to have the access to the high
vibrational frequency that you need to

shift into high vibrational frequency.

It's like, duh,

Michael: how else do you get there?

Audree: Exactly.

How else can you unravel all that
very, very low vibrational frequency?

But it's

Michael: so, so I just got the, a
way to explain the connection and,

and evolutionary energetics gives
you access to the frequency of where

you're operating at now with all
the other constraints in your, you

know, within your mental body, your.

Audree: Don't, you know what you
keep talking about the mental body?

Well, so the emotional body, the
physical bo like I, I, I, I wanna get

away from those, get away from terms.

That's fine.

Because people are, you know,
the old schools, the Koshas,

even Barbara Brennan Yeah.

Had all these different, it's

Michael: really just
energetics and physiology.

So

Audree: Yeah.

It's like,

Michael: so let, let's,
let's go through this so

Audree: we don't go through those layers.

Yeah.

We just go through shifting
the vibrational frequency.

Okay.

Because Oh, I know why.

Because all of it needs to
be in harmony, in oneness.

If you start separating
the bodies out Yeah.

Still

Michael: creating separation.

I, I get it.

So, I, I'm just thinking I, how to
restructure the, what I wanna explain,

Audree: I'm just speaking out loud.

Yeah.

I just had an epiphany.

Michael: Yeah.

Good work.

Congratulations.

I agree a hundred percent.

So I guess we're getting excited now.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Things are happening.

Audree: I know.

I'm sitting up straighter.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: I thought it was the coffee, but

Michael: No, it's 'cause the,
'cause the information's flowing.

So the clarity I'm getting now is to say
that evolutionary energetics is, is is

itself a system where what we get from
it is based on where we're coming from.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Michael: And where we're
coming from is everything else.

It's, it's our energetics.

It is our current state of energetic
structures, our current state of,

of encoding of those structures in
our physiology, which we experience

through mental situations, which we
experience through emotional, emotional

situations, which we experience
through reactive patterning and so on.

And what happens is evolutionist allows
us to access the frequency of where

our structures are limited to us at.

So as we use tools to purify that
structure, to work through the

limiting factors within our being.

There as we have less limiting factors
are being, we're able to access evolution

at a higher, this is what I'm experienced
at a higher and higher frequency.

So evolutionary energetics scales
with us or moves with us as we

go on our evolutionary journey.

And so that's why it's really able to just
mirror where we are and help, you know,

create a loosening in the structures.

It's

Audree: actually

Michael: to move us to the next level.

It's pulling us up.

Audree: It's actually, it's pulling us up.

So it's actually functioning higher to,
to purify and, and create the unravel and

stabilize in a high vibrational frequency.

So the work, when you're
intentionally act, you know,

Michael: intentionally, this is the
trick when you're intentionally mm-hmm.

Doing the life work of using your
life as your evolutionary path.

It's able to respond and allow your, your
set point, your base frequency to elevate.

So, however, what happens is if you just
use evolution genetics and don't have

the tools or you know, then what happens,

Audree: it'll only, it, it'll pull
you to a certain point where you're,

you're vibrating at a higher vibrational
frequency, but it'll, it'll wait.

It'll just hold you in a frequency.

And what is required within the
mechanics of creation, and this is

what the, she keeps saying, is that
there's only evolution for people that

want to intentionally involved, evolve

Michael: involved, be
involved in their evolution.

Audree: You have to be involved in, in

Michael: your life,

Audree: in your to evolve.

Yeah.

Um,

Michael: fun fact.

So what happens if you're
not involved in your life?

Audree: So I, I'll, uh, for example,

Michael: I mean, do you
understand the absurdity.

Audree: For, and

Michael: what we're saying is,
is, is that most people are

not really fully involved in

Audree: their life.

Well, they, they want the boon, but
they don't wanna do the work for it.

It reminds me of my grandfather

Michael: involved in, so we, I, so
I guess what we're saying is people

are involved in their life very,
everyone's very involved in their life.

Very, I mean, 24 by seven people are
involved in their life at a surface level.

Audree: Well, wait a minute.

What people don't even understand
is they are such powerful creators.

They are creating the life experience
that they're in Right this second,

you're creating,

Michael: right?

So that, that's the ultimate everything.

That's the ultimate endpoint is when we
start to fully understand that as a nosis

and have that, understand that that's the,
the truth of the mechanics of creation,

have this visceral understanding.

However, as we said, there's this
step-by-step journey to get there.

Yeah.

Audree: And you're, we

Michael: can't just jump

Audree: there.

What you're, you're trying to say is.

The step-by-step journey.

And to be just really honest here,
I'm not, we're not giving it,

I'm not giving the
step-by-step journey right now.

I'm not going to go into the details
of how evolutionary energetics works.

You could take a class for that.

You can actually make the
effort and take the class.

So I'm not giving that away.

What I will say is from my own experience.

You like that, don't you?

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Well, well, welcome Audrey.

Audree: Um, what I will say

Michael: congratulations

Audree: is that, and I, I learned this
from my other teachers in, in my own

education as a energetic healer, is
that when you don't put in the work,

your life just stops and waits for you.

So I've run my own experiment and,
and stop doing the meditations.

My life stops and it just sits, I
sit in a holding pattern until I go

ahead and do the meditations again.

So for our students, I, I tell them,
oh, there's something going on.

For example, we have a, a student
right now who is having some

issues at work with her boss.

So I'm just, I just say to them, okay,
you know, your daily practice was

to do the short E two meditation and
once a week do the long meditation.

I say, my prescription is do the
long meditation every single day

until you have the breakthrough that
you're looking for in your life.

And then you could go back to maintenance.

But right now you need
to accelerate mm-hmm.

To get to the breakthrough.

So while they're doing all the other
evolutionary tools and using those,

um, moment to moment and working as an

Michael: advanced student you're thinking

Audree: of.

Yeah.

Um, but it's also in concert
with those tools, is that you are

doing the evolutionary energetics
long meditation every single day.

Mm-hmm.

Until you get the breakthrough.

So you said we're at time.

Michael: We're coming up on time.

49 minutes.

Audree: I was gonna give an example
of creating life experience.

Michael: Okay.

Audree: But I think I've talked
about this before, haven't I?

I

Michael: don't know.

Audree: Well, it's so extraordinary.

I'll keep talking about
it over and over again.

Um,

Michael: oh, that story,

Audree: because my father repeats
himself, so I repeat myself.

I I could blame it on my dad.

Well,

Michael: sometimes repetition's good.

Audree: Um, it's just a
really, really good story.

And, and while it was happening,
I didn't realize how profound.

This experience was, and even now I
don't fully can't fully comprehend it.

I don't

Michael: think we need it.

'cause we've gone through this.

They were pretty good.

No,

Audree: we promised it and
I think it's really good.

And so I'll

Michael: just, okay.

You're excited about it.

Audree: I, I am excited about it.

I will do a very short version.

So, um, two years ago, uh, my son, um,
got a staph infection and it went into

his spinal, it went into his back and the
abscess of the staph infection pressed

on his spinal column and rendered him
paralyzed from the, from the waist down.

And so he had the surgery, he was
in recovery, he was in the hospital.

Um.

And from from the hospital, they're like,
well, he's still not getting better.

And they got him into the rehab
center, but he was still paralyzed.

And he was there for maybe, I mean,
this is like two and a half months

now of his, his being paralyzed
and there was no infection.

And they're waiting for the, the
spinal column to start to heal

itself and nothing is happening.

And so, um, if anybody knows anything
about being paralyzed, is that they cannot

start rehab until they start seal seeing
the healing process happening, which means

that there has to be some sort of movement
in the body before they start the rehab.

And so nothing is happening.

And, um, and it, it, it actually
seems to be getting worse.

He's having a fever.

Which now I'm, anyways, um, and it seems
like he's going backwards and I left the

rehab center and I was in hysterical.

I was just like, there's
nothing has been working.

And there's the, all the healing work
and everything that we've been doing.

Nothing is working, nothing is working.

And I'm driving in the car, it's
late at night, I'm exhausted and

instead of praying outward, you
know, praying to God or whatever,

you know, heal my son, heal my son.

Um,

I went, what if it were true that
I'm the one that's creating this,

right?

Like, let's live our tools.

We're saying.

We're teaching that we are the ones
that are creating our life experience.

So I went inward and I was
just like, enough is enough.

Like, I, like, why would I create
an experience where my son is, is

suffering like, like make me suffer,
but not anybody outside of me.

Like this is, I'm not, I'm not doing this.

And what I experienced was this
aspect of within my consciousness

that went, oh, so you understand the
power that I have to create reality.

And it was like I was talking to my
own consciousness, but it was like

from the ego-based consciousness,

Michael: it, it was like in,
in terms of you actually were

talking to your own consciousness.

Audree: Yes.

I was talking

Michael: as it turns out,

Audree: but it was like this
awareness, I had this sudden awareness.

That the eye, the small eye
was creating the reality.

And within that, I had this intense
realization of the power within my own

being, of creating my life experience.

And I won't go into the details,
but it was just like this

incredible, profound awakening

experience and was a nosis in my being.

And after it was done, it just kind of
left me in this place of just peace.

And there wasn't anything else.

There were no thoughts with it.

There were no like, oh, I gotta
manifest now, or, you know, or go

do some healing work on my son.

It wasn't anything I like went home.

I was very peaceful and I went to sleep.

And this was all while I was driving in my
car, which I wouldn't recommend anybody.

Um.

But, and, and I just left it.

I woke up the next morning, I did
my meditation and when I, it was

like during my meditation, my son
called me or I called to check in.

I, I don't know what the, I
forgot everything now, like

what the exact thing was.

But, um, my son was like, mom, and he
tells me this story, but he's like,

mom, my, my, I'm moving my toes.

And I, and it was, I FaceTimed.

So he is like, look, and you could see his
toes were just moving ever so slightly.

And he was, and he was laughing.

He goes, yeah, I was
trying to tell Dad 'cause.

His, his dad and I were taking
turns sleeping at the hospital

every night, and he was like, oh,
we were sitting with a caseworker.

We're talking about going home, paralyzed.

And I'm like, dad, dad, my toe is moving.

And they wouldn't believe me.

And that's what he was saying.

He was like, no, no, no,
you're hallucinating.

You think you're moving your
feet, but they're not moving.

And then he pulled, he's like,
I pulled the covers off my feet.

And they were like, oh my
God, he is moving his toes.

So it was like from Friday night
when I had that experience.

Michael: Nothing like a deadline, huh?

Audree: Nothing like a deadline to
Saturday morning is when he was, by

the time I got to the hospital, which
was late, later on this afternoon, his,

he was able to, um, move his ankles.

By the next morning, Sunday
morning, he was able to lift

his, his leg from the waist.

He was able to lift both
legs about six inches.

I mean, it was so miraculous.

And by, uh, Sunday afternoon, um,
the rehab center that he was at, this

huge hospital, they were able to take
him into, uh, into the rehab clinic.

And he was able to, to
start doing the rehab.

Michael: Real rehab.

Yeah.

Audree: Real rehab, which
is, was very, very hard work.

But I mean, he, he is a football player,
so he is, you know, he was, he was willing

to do the work, but it was so exciting.

Michael: Hmm.

So that's a direct
personal life experience.

Experience demonstrating the
mechanic of creation that you are

creating your life experience.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

A

Michael: profound, in a very
profound life experience,

Audree: a profound way.

But it took me, you know, it's, it, it
wasn't about me, it was about my son.

And I think that, that, you know, if we,
if we look at like, I don't wanna cause

anybody I see time, it's okay Michael,

Michael: I don't wanna go
over the one hour mark.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: So we'll just
skip the meditation.

Audree: We can always cut
this into two sections.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Anyways, when it was about
somebody else, I didn't wanna create a

situation where somebody else was injured.

And I think that, that, like what
I'm getting at here is when it's

about somebody else, it's okay.

But when it's about your own
being, why is it not okay?

Why is like continued suffering
or continued life experience

going horribly wrong?

You know, why do we wait
till the situation is at this

extreme to create our reality?

I guess I'll just leave it at that.

Michael: Nothing like a deadline.

Let's just take one minute to
connect with the E two mantra.

Now

see, sometimes people have a
hard time going with the flow,

Audree: isn't it?

Michael: Isn't it?

Yeah.

Just take a minute.

Thank you for joining us.

As you can see, we went
longer than a minute.

What I got at the start of the meditation
was just feeling in everybody and that

everybody just needs time to integrate
and allow this information to do its

work and the energetics to do their work.

So we went for the full three minutes.

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