B Evolutionary: The Podcast

Michael: So we've already clarified
that Audrey's coffee is in fact ready.

Audree: Yay.

Michael: And uh, I was starting
to share with Audrey, and then

we decided to turn this on.

To capture this revelation.

Audree: There should just be a microphone
hanging from the ceiling and a button.

It'll be so much easier.

Michael: This is

Audree: constantly recording.

Michael: Well, isn't that what, you
know, the, our phones are doing anyway.

Anyway, so,

yeah,

Audree: but not importantly.

Michael: Yeah, but not for purpose.

Or not for our purpose?

Audree: No.

Michael: Okay.

So what was, what this revelation
that happened in the shower is,

uh, to, to get backfill the story.

I was working on this PDF download
for evolutionary genetics.

We we're trying to give people like
detail of what it is so they understand

Audree: and not put it on the website

Michael: and not, not try to have
this like, massive webpage that tries

to do more than a webpage should do.

And so.

In order to do this, it was really
archiving and extracting from the book.

And so what I realized, uh, there was this
one passage that kind of came up to me was

about explaining how evolutionary genetics
is part of a larger system of evolution.

And historically we've talked about
that as evolutionary living and

evolutionary design and awareness being
the primary mechanism of evolution.

And, and so what this.

This extract, and this, this, this
downloadable PDF we have was about how

there are two threads of evolution.

One is elevating to higher and higher
levels of vibrational frequency.

And the other one is, is developing
our awareness and that we need

both of these threads of evolution
to have a, a complete journey.

And so somehow that was brought into
my awareness and there was this.

Feeling of like, it was really a
feeling, it wasn't really a thought of,

of dissatisfaction or, or incorrectness
about it, that it was somehow incomplete.

And I was, and I was feeling into it
and I was wondering what it was, and

then what I was, what I was shown

is how

it's actually deeply connected.

Awareness is deeply
connected with understanding.

The mechanics of creation and being
able to harness that and apply it in our

reality, and what I was shown was how
there's this understanding of what and

who Audrey is and how at a fundamental
level we have a different construct.

Um, and I know we can go in those
mechanics later or perhaps on another

podcast, but, but there's fundamentally
a different structure of that

applies to Audrey and, and myself.

Um, the mass and the feminine,
you could call it that.

And what I saw was that un until Audrey
understood her functioning and could

function correctly in her design, and
I'm talking beyond human design, I'm

talking about energetic fabric here.

And until I could understand my
design and operate correctly in that

without that information, we could
not operate to correctly together.

So it doesn't matter how good our
intentions are, how much we wanna

work together correctly, how strong
our desire is, we actually needed

this specific mechanic of creation.

To debug our own beings, to use it
in application, to use the awareness

of what's happening with the
correct knowledge of the mechanics

of creation in our own being.

Audree: And the tools

Michael: and the tools to,
to put that into practice.

And so what happens?

So that's, that's the revelation.

It's not just awareness, it's awareness.

Of the mechanics of creation, the
ability to fully recognize that in

our being in how it's playing out and
the knowledge of how to apply the.

The and and use the corrective
countermeasures to unwind the

deviated distorted aspects that
we're trapped in to restore ourselves

to the original intention of this
universal frequency towards what we

are incarnated to be here as source
consciousness, incarnated material form.

And so that's the realization.

Audree: Okay.

This is so funny because you're
talking so abstract, and normally

that's me who speaks abstractly.

So I'm just gonna, I'll
explain it because I,

Michael: well, you have
the gate of explanation.

Audree: I have the gate of explanation.

In practical terms, in relationship
to yourself and others,

if you don't know who you are
and how you operate and have.

Also the knowledge about what's
really happening in reality

and the tools and the techniques
to debug your own being, like

how you're showing up moment to
moment and how to smooth that out.

How to transmute and transform all
those subconscious behavior patterns.

Oh.

Oh,

you can't even have a relationship
with yourself, but you cannot

relate to the outside world.

It's like you cannot co-create together.

So it's interesting 'cause if we

Michael: wait, you can co-create in
limited ways, but not to your full

Audree: any, it's very, very limited.

So for example, if you are in
relationship and it's not working out.

There's a lot of debugging that
has to go on if you're at work.

Michael: Wait, wait.

Just pause.

Like that reminds me.

When people are in relationship trying
to debug the relationship, they're

actually looking in the wrong place.

'cause the only place to look is
what's going on inside of themselves.

It's not actually about the
relationship, the interaction patterns.

Audree: Correct.

Michael: That's just a, a, a distraction.

Or, or a, or a symptom of
the actual disturbance inside

each of the, the individuals.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: Yeah.

Anyway, go on.

Audree: Oh, and then if you're at
work and things aren't working, you

know, there's always those, those
interactions between people trying

to deliver on projects and most, most
are all, you know, block delivery.

People related.

Like everybody's trying to figure out all
these different things in the workflow.

Michael: Yeah, we'll fix this
process and we'll have this new tool.

We'll, we'll inject ai, you know,
we'll have this magic thing to fix it.

And it's always a people problem, right?

Audree: It's always a people problem,

Michael: which means it's a
ego or consciousness problem

Audree: always.

Michael: So it's really funny that you're
saying so, so when I, when I say we need

to understand the mechanics of creation,
for me that's very, very precise and

I think that's what, so, so, so why

Audree: don't you define
mechanics of creation.

Can you do that like in two sentences?

Michael: Well, actually I'm
gonna give him that a four first.

Okay.

There's something that came up while
you were speaking, 'cause we used

the word debug and, and I've got this
background in software development

programming and, and so if you
think about your life as a program,

Audree: well, hold on a second.

I, I'm gonna go back even further.

Michael: Oh.

Audree: Michael and I started the
evolution of all of this information

teaching leadership training.

And transformation,

Michael: organizational transformation
and how to get people more effective and

Audree: yeah, how to get people
more effective in high performance.

Okay.

Go.

Michael: Okay.

Thank you for setting the do battery.

Audree: You're welcome.

Michael: So what I'm, I'm getting
at, at this metaphor where I,

I was using the word debug and
then Audrey picked it up as well.

And so if we're talking about
debugging, what are we de.

We're debugging the program of our life.

We're debugging the subconscious
patterns that are creating the things

we don't want and not the things
that we really do want in our life.

And so when we say so, so if you think
about software, in order to debug it,

you need to have a debugger installed.

You need to have the source code.

You need to have the, the exact
code files that were used and

compiled to create that program.

So if we look at it as a metaphor.

The awareness, your awareness, the
capacity for awareness is the debugging

program is the debugger that is examining
the program of your life and the source

code, the, the actual files that are
running, that are creating your life.

That's what I'm talking about, the
mechanics of creation, that you're

understanding the programming
language that is creating your life.

Audree: Oh my God.

Do

Michael: you understand?

You said you wanted a programmer
bef when you, when you were looking

for someone in a partnership,

Audree: right?

Somebody

Michael: could understand that the mind
was a virus and it was like a DA program.

I mean, we're, it's like a pro.

Our programming has gone bad.

That's why we're not living
from joy and peace and so on.

And so what I'm seeing here is that
you need to understand programming.

Those are the mechanics of creation.

Audree: That's why the
movie matrix was, is, is so.

Uh, correct and valuable
to watch because As a

Michael: metaphor.

Audree: As a metaphor, 'cause
there's so much truth to that.

But go ahead.

Michael: So, so that's what I'm
getting is there's that what we're

talking about is, is really, and this
is what we talk about self-mastery,

that, you know, there was always this
aspect of my being that was like, can

this journey just get easy someday?

And, you know, suddenly I
hit this magic tipping point.

And everything's clean, right?

And that, that, that
never happened for us.

I know she described it, they did it with
some other beings on the planet, but then

these beings couldn't explain how they
got there, and it wasn't actually that

useful for the evolution of humanity.

Um, so that with us, we're getting
the slow drip approach to, to fully

understand exactly what's going on
within the mechanics of creation.

And, and this is, this is like,
this is the rub here, right?

Because yesterday I had the, one of
the, really the most extraordinary

day of my life I've ever had
where I was just anchored into

this high vibrational frequency.

And everything was just easy and in
flow, and sometimes things wouldn't

work out, and I'd just pivot and
everything was just extraordinary and,

and really effortless and, and in flow.

And so I thought, okay, well great,
you know, everything's fine now.

And then, you know, I go to sleep
and then that's when all my, my

stuff comes out and I'm clearing, and
I'm clearing, I'm using the tools,

clear clearing and using the tools.

And then I'm finding,
okay, well wait a second.

Like what is, what is
really going on here?

Like, why, like I, I've gotten so far in
my journey, why is this still happening?

And then this, that's where the
revelation was connected with,

is that we need to fully harness.

Understand the mechanics
and apply them in our being.

So we are the ones correcting
the program and our being.

No one can do this for us.

We've said this before, right?

And that's why self-mastery is needed.

We need to master the
programming of our own creation

Audree: because we are the ones
that are creating our own reality.

Michael: Well, that's
the, that's the concept.

But what I'm saying is there's actually,
we're actually getting down to.

The specific mechanics.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Of these are the
specific mechanics of how

we are creating a reality.

These are the specific tools of awareness.

This is how to develop your awareness.

Which is your debugger.

This is how to step by step,
learn the mechanics of creation,

Audree: and then

Michael: so you can apply them in your
debugger to change the programs of

your life so your life gets better.

Audree: Right?

And then there's the, the high vibrational
frequency, the transmission within the

processes that actually begin to unravel
because you need that high vibrational

frequency to unravel those programs.

Like, um, in, in.

I don't even know what if it's
Veda or Hindu or whatever.

They, in Sanskrit they call them
samskara and they're actually like

these crystallized, um, uh, energetic
lines of light that are like in a ball.

And I always describe it like, um, how
a, when a muscle is torn, how it heals.

'cause it heal the fastest way
possible is to take scar tissue.

And it, and, and it.

The scar tissue overlaps on itself
because scar tissue alone, like um,

a muscle tissue is a straight line,
or cells are like a straight line,

and if scar tissue is weaker and the
body understands it, scar tissue is

weaker, but it's like the fastest
growing tissue to repair the injury.

So what the body does.

Is it takes the scar tissue and it, and
it overlays it, and it kind of makes

like this knotted ball of scar tissue.

And that's how the body heals
itself very quickly to repair

the muscle, the torn muscle.

And that's what AEM scar looks like.

It looks like these crisscrossed lines
of light that are in a very tight ball,

but what that's doing is it's holding.

The pattern, it's holding the
energetic encoding that that is

distorted, that holds the wound.

It holds the pain, it holds the suffering.

And so like in India, we spent a
lot of time in high vibrational

frequency intentionally.

Using awareness on the samskara to
start to dis, what it that awareness

does is it dissolves the patterns, it
dissolves the energetic, uh, structure

and the, and, and, and with that.

Dissolving in the energetic structure,
it allows the energy itself to release.

And so what's happening is it's like it
gets stuck deep inside your being, and as

you work through it, it comes up and out.

Michael: Right?

So these are the two threads of evolution.

One is high vibrational frequency.

Mm-hmm.

To give us the energy needed.

To burn through these sims scars to open
them up, enough power to penetrate however

the penetration has happens through the
awareness of the mechanics of creation,

of application, of, of that knowledge.

So, so, well,

Audree: you can't be intentional until
you have the correct knowledge of how it

actually works, the functioning of it.

All

Michael: right.

So we could understand, if we're going
back to that analogy of the debugger,

the, the, the energy, the energetics.

Is the activation or the fuel that allows
that program, that debugger to run.

Audree: You know what I'm getting?

Michael: If if you don't have that,
that fuel, the debugger won't run.

That's why people just who try to
use awareness can only get so far.

Audree: Not only that, but even in
India, what was lacking, what we

began to understand, and this took
a, even after we went to, oh, this

took forever, stopped going to India.

Michael: This took a long time.

This is the whole

Audree: work.

But what we started to
understand, and this is also.

In the last couple years

is the vow, the A, the actual, um,

Michael: choice point.

Audree: Choice point to
create that sabotage pattern.

Michael: Whoa.

So if you go back

Audree: in various ways, we
had the universe like we.

To creating the sabotage pattern.

So we ourselves would
create our own sabotage.

And until you undo that,

Michael: oh my gosh, you just got,

Audree: and everybody misses that piece.

'cause nobody wants to
take responsibility.

Michael: You know what?

I just got

Audree: what

Michael: in the software analogy?

Mm-hmm.

It's the user requirement.

Audree: Say more.

Michael: Well, so, so when we
have a a, a piece of software,

a feature or a feature segment.

It's fulfilling a user requirement.

And so what happens is the vow.

So what happens?

You go and try to debug a piece of
code, you can only clean it up to the

point within the context of whatever
that code is supposed to be doing.

And what we're doing with the vow is we're
saying, I'm gonna undo this whole feature.

Yeah.

Like this whole feature's not
doing the correct thing at all.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: And so that's really what.

Wow.

Okay.

I'm, I'm just really getting this.

So what's happened?

Audree: I know these sessions are so good.

Yeah.

'cause we, this actually understand our
work, this is why we sit and talk, is

we don't understand why our work works.

Yeah.

So we have no, it works.

These conversations and then, okay.

Michael: So, so we
understand why it works.

We're just getting to the, the like
deeper layers of understanding, right.

Audree: Because.

Knowledge is power.

Yeah.

I always go back to knowledge is power.

Michael: You don't, application
of knowledge is power.

Audree: Well, if you don't
understand the mechanics, you cannot

intentionally use the technique.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: And that's what we're getting at.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so what I'm getting at is, until
we, so if we think about every samskara,

every trauma, every challenge in your
life, it's fulfilling a specific purpose.

And unless you go back and understand
the purpose and oh my gosh, this

happened all the time, this is why
we worked as a software developer.

Until you go back as the developer and you
say, Hey to the user, Hey, you know what?

This is what the software is doing.

We've got, you know, bug complaints,
or it's not working because of X, Y, Z.

You didn't think through the, we didn't
think through the requirements properly.

We need to revisit them to look at
what we really want to achieve in the

scope of what is the customer journey?

What are we trying to accomplish?

And what, what do we want the
full user experience to be?

And so when that happens, there's often
a, a revisiting of what the requirements

are, what the feature requirements
are, and then after that, then there

can be a recoding of the program.

But a lot of the times, it's not just
a matter of, oh, the program is broken.

We need to fix it, we need to debug it.

It's going back to the requirements
and redoing the requirements.

And if we go to the root requirement,
we're operating on the program

of the egoic consciousness.

Which is scarcity, lack, self-hatred,
unworthiness, shame, doubt, fear, anxiety,

and we're saying, Hey, you know what?

This program's not working anymore.

We're gonna recode it on Peace, abundance,

Audree: health, vitality, joy.

Michael: Yeah.

Success.

Audree: I wanna read something to
you because I don't know why I, I.

Michael: You don't need
to know why, Audrey?

Audree: I don't even need to know.

Put

Michael: an emotional data collector.

Audree: Okay.

So

Michael: just gotta listen to it.

Audree: I was on LinkedIn.

Michael: Oops.

Audree: Yeah.

Um, so I was reading this little article.

What Leaders Need Turns Out
Less is More Needers Leaders.

Needers Needers and leaders,
well, they need people to do so.

Oh, they're the same.

Um, leaders don't need 47 metrics.

They need to know what's moving and
what's stuck, where trade-offs need

to be made, whether we're making
progress against what actually matters.

So I stripped it back.

Initiative, progress,
delivery, health and flow.

Data quality dependencies and blockers.

Critical path, risks and decisions,
real time status across streams.

This guy was talking about fancy
metric programs that leaders take all

these, you know, they measure every,
their whole entire organization based

on, on these performance metrics.

And he's creating this new
program stripped back of, of

what leaders actually need and.

You know, I think the most important one
here is what's moving and what's stuck,

and when we go back and strip
it all down, we're still talking

about how people function.

And this, and, and, and
being stuck on a delivery

always comes down to a person.

Michael: Well, well, this reminds
me when we were teaching metrics.

Audree: Oh my God.

Right.

We had the best metrics.

Michael: Right.

Well, so, so the bottom line of
everything we taught everyone about,

what was most important about metrics
is you have to do them because

your organization requires them.

Yeah.

However, all you really need to do is pay,
pay attention to how are people doing's,

Audree: how are people functioning?

Michael: Because if people are,
because, and if you optimize how people

are functioning, so they function
better, you're gonna get more results.

Everything else is secondary to that.

Everything that Audrey just
listed is a result of how

people are functioning, right?

And so that's why it's the only
thing that matters is not a metric.

It's actually you looking
after your people.

So that they're actually looked
after so they can actually function.

Audree: So hold on a second.

I, and

Michael: there's no metric for that.

'cause metrics get gamified.

Audree: I wanna go, I want to go even.

Well, it's a whole scam because
there was a whole consulting

develop, you know, they developed a,

Michael: anyway, just get,

Audree: yeah,

Michael: keep on target, the leader.

Audree: Um, so going, even going to ai

Michael: mm-hmm.

Audree: And looking at ai,
I want, I 'cause you use AI

a lot 'cause you love it.

Well, and that's

as

Michael: a generator, it makes it easy.

'cause I'm designed to respond and so

Audree: create something.

I get to response well.

Well you also have a half a PhD
in, in artificial intelligence,

Michael: so I know how to, how to
know how to use it and harness it.

Audree: This is what I'm saying is that
even I am noticing even the AI is managed

like you're managing a human being.

Do you know that?

Michael: For me, it feel,
it, it feels a bit like that.

It actually, for me, it
feels more like programming.

Like I'm actually, when I'm putting
in a prompt, I'm figuring out like,

okay, I, I, I actually have a model
of how the AI functions in my head.

Mm-hmm.

And I understand.

What will the impact of this program
on this AI in this state with its

current way of functioning, which
I'm, I'm learning because I'm

observing how it's reacting to things.

I know where it's gonna go wrong.

It's like managing a person in a way.

I know where the program's gonna go wrong.

And I need to put in
prompts to negate that.

Audree: Okay.

How do you relate to other
people and your own being?

It's exactly the same what you just said.

We could actually, if we'll go
back through this transcript

again, it's exactly that.

You have to understand how
the human being functions.

And then you have to respond according
to how the human being functions.

Michael: Right?

That's what we teach in our, our
level one leadership training.

It's like, Hey, did you notice
human beings function like this

and this is how to, you know, treat
them well so they perform better?

Audree: Right.

Have you noticed that your command and
control behavior blocks your people?

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Have you noticed that two
teams aren't functioning together

because they're working in silo?

Michael: And you and your
organizational system are the

ones who told 'em to do that.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: To not work
together to compete on goals.

It's like

Audree: what?

This alone we're agile.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: Yeah.

Um,

I know this is just, oh
God, this is so huge.

Let's go back to creating your reality.

'cause that's what ultimately.

That's why I am here.

I'm not here to be enlightened.

I'm not here actually, you know,
feeling good is a, is like an epi

phenomenon of this whole thing.

Like I want, I want to be
successful at what I do.

I wanna make money so I can enjoy my life
and I wanna have better relationships.

With myself first, I wanna treat
myself well, and then I wanna have

good relationships with other people.

That's why I'm here.

It's very simple.

Michael: Right.

So that's the,

Audree: it's the old wealth, health love.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so that for me is, is kind of
the, is really the punchline, is that

even at this stage of the journey,
there was this missing mechanic.

Of how you function and how I function,
how that's different, and for us to

function better within our functioning
so that we can function together.

And this is after this
entire journey we've been on.

It's like, oh, wait a second.

Audree: Well, we've been debugging our
relationship and how to work together

because we realized that we were just
hitting brick walls in our business, and

that's when this whole thing started.

The demand to go deeper.

Where am I?

How am I creating this?

We kept saying, how am I creating this?

How am I creating this?

And we kept going deeper
and deeper and deeper

Michael: down the rabbit hole

Audree: into the real
mechanics of how we function.

Michael: The red pill, right?

Do you want the truth?

Audree: Yeah.

And the truth is painful.

It's pretty shitty and sucky.

Michael: It sucks big time.

And then on the other
side, it feels so good.

Audree: Right

Michael: when we're free of it,
when the program's debugged,

when it's operating correctly.

So, so really I think that's what it
feels like for me yesterday was like my,

my beingness just operating correctly
and it just feels so good and it's so

productive and it, it's just so in flow
and, and, and experiencing that not as a,

oh, I had a good day, but, but experience
that as, oh, this is my birthright.

Audree: Yes.

Michael: And of course, you know, if
I think where I started this journey,

you know, if I heard these words, it
seemed like this is, you know, you

know, pie in the sky and you don't
understand my pain and suffering, and how

could I, you know, my mind is so busy.

How could I possibly have a quieter
mind, and how could I possibly be

at peace and yada, yada, yada, you

Audree: know, how, how could,

Michael: and, and the truth is it

Audree: step by step.

How am I, how am I, you know,
I'm not creating my reality.

I'm bound by the circumstances.

And that's so not true.

Michael: And I have a deep pledge to
my own self disempowerment because I

say that I'm bound by my circumstances.

And well see.

That's, that's the, the
deeper mechanic at play.

Is where we have an allegiance to,
oh, the 3D world that's around me

is governing and we, we, and again,
it's a very deep allegiance 'cause

we're conditioned into it from birth.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: We're conditioned into
it from birth that other people

cause us to feel certain ways.

And it's always outside of me.

Audree: There's still a
class system on this planet.

You know, you're not born into money.

Even the ones that create their own
wealth are still not welcome into

old money social circles, like that's
still happening on this planet.

Michael: So I'm not
following the connection.

Audree: How,

Michael: explain it to me
like I'm a three-year-old.

Audree: I forgot what we were talking
about already, but I'll, I'll go first.

We're, we're talking about, we're
bound, bound by the 3D world.

We're talking,

Michael: I was talking about being bound
internally by our own belief systems.

Yeah.

And then you went to talk
about external structures

Audree: of

Michael: limitation.

Audree: Right.

Because external structures of limitation
are the very things that are bounding.

Our internal belief systems.

Michael: Oh, you're saying,

Audree: and we don't under, we don't
even understand the impact of them.

So let's go to physical Oh,

Michael: you're saying the external S

Audree: health

Michael: are, are just a reflection of
the internal belief systems we hold.

Mm-hmm.

And they're just pointing to the
internal belief systems we hold.

That we're not, you know, you know,
we, you know, we can never be included.

Never be valuable.

I mean, you know, there's,

Audree: or you know, let's go to,
uh, my mother had breast cancer,

so I'm gonna get breast cancer.

Mm-hmm.

And you're gonna start
to do everything to.

Prevent yourself from having
cancer because you've been

told that cancer is genetic.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: These are very, very pervasive
belief systems that are imprinted

in our being from the time we are
very little, and that, that those

are the limitations that we hold
near and dear we have allegiance to.

Michael: Right.

So let me just touch on that one.

'cause this, this came up in a channeling
session sometime in the last month or two.

Which is that, you know, if
that is your situation, it's not

just about your belief system.

That's part of it and, and
the vows and and so on.

There's also an energetic component
where if it is genetic, it means

there's some energetic distortion in
your ener, in your genetic lineage.

And so that needs to go get cleaned up.

And that's where

Audree: Right, your DNA is Codes.

Michael: Yeah, codes of light and so on.

And so, so that's where it
actually, there's mechanics

of creation, the actual tools.

To go in and remove the energetic
disturbances that are the ones causing

the cancer in and expressing that
through your, your, your, your DNA.

So that's how this all gets resolved.

It's not, and this is the, the other thing
is that the mechanics of creation are vast

and not understandable by the human mind.

Audree: Nope.

Michael: And so when we say that,
well, they say, well, what's the point?

Well, the point is you can have enough
enough of the access to the energetics and

the high frequency, enough of the access
to the mechanics that you can operate

the debugger and create the change.

Mm-hmm.

You're never gonna
understand the full thing.

Audree: It's not meant to,

Michael: however, but you're not meant
to, you're just meant to, to solve

your part of creation, your, your
being, and how you're functioning.

In this creation that we're in.

Audree: Right?

So your whole entire reality shifts
into high vibrational frequency

and structure and you're in on
when you're on a co-creative path.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: So you're not causing damage.

Michael: Right.

So that's why,

to

Audree: yourself and others.

Michael: So that's why I'm just
thinking back to the move of the Matrix.

That's why it's such a,
a beautiful metaphor.

'cause there's truth in it.

The truth is you're born into slavery.

You're born to the slavery
of the belief systems.

You're born to the slavery of the
energetic frequencies you're operating at.

You're born

Audree: into the slavery of fe or
believing that you're a limited being.

Michael: Yeah.

And so unless you, you're one of those
beings within the matrix that sees the

light or somehow has some knowingness
that there, you know, what is the matrix?

What is beyond this?

And that pull is strong enough
for you to go on a journey

Audree: that you can bend a spoon
because you know the spoon is

Michael: well and ultimately.

You know, go on.

The journey means, what does it mean?

It means you take the red pill and
you, you see the truth and you see

how deep the rabbit hole really goes.

The rabbit hole is not, is, is, is
taking you out of the slavery, out of

the matrix, into the truth of what and
who you are into the truth of your, your

as a being of, of light, as a being of,
of abundance, as your, as your, as the

original intention of how you're designed
to function and meant to function.

Audree: Right?

We're, we are not.

We, okay, I'll, I'll say it in positive.

We are designed to function in peace and
harmony in creating from a place of, of

unconditional love for ourselves, which
means that we are gifting our own being

peace and harmony, health and vitality
and finance, the financial prosperity

to not just survive on this planet.

Mm-hmm.

But to.

Live an extraordinary life.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: And that's why when you look at
the health, the health of individuals, you

will, you'll see that there's a pattern
of their in within their belief systems.

What, you know, what types of freedoms
that they have, what types of mind, you

know, everybody talks about the mindset.

You know, and why is mindset so important?

Because your thoughts are
creating your reality.

So if you're, if you're stuck
in the distortion of these

deviated, distorted codes within
your, within your consciousness.

You're gonna create
destruction for yourself.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: And so when people are trying
really hard to be successful, I'm

just going to go into the practical
or the practicality of all this, is

that you're really trying hard at
work to be promoted or to make money.

You know, if you're looking
outside of yourself.

You're looking at circumstances
and you're not focusing inward on

the hidden aspects of your being.

And we're not talking about psychology
here because psychology is not enough.

Just like when I say when people
are, um, going through addiction and

they're not addressing the mechanics
of, of how they actually function

energetically, they're not gonna.

They're not gonna overcome

Michael: their, can I jump
in here in psychology?

Mm-hmm.

I just wanna clarify our
position on psychology.

Yeah.

Psychology is useful and helpful
as, it's a very good point.

4% of the journey.

Audree: 4%

Michael: 0.4%,

0.4,

zero, 0.4%.

So about half a percent of the journey.

Audree: Right?

Michael: So it's a good start for people
who want to, who are starting there.

Audree: Well, it was created
in the looping consciousness

of the deviation in the, the.

I have to be, we have to be
very careful about what we say.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Anyway, I,

Audree: and I, so just to let everyone
know, I went to eight years of school

for, for healing, energetic healing,
and it was all psychology based

because thoughts create reality.

So even my schooling came from.

The place of studying the
psychology of disease, and that

was not enough to cure anybody.

It was not enough to heal.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Until I started seeing the
mechanics of, of how consciousness

actually functions and putting in the
energetic, the energetics into that,

and then creating our own technology.

It didn't work.

And so we're talking about this
a fundamentally different, a

new perspective of shifting our
reality and creating a better life.

And up until this point, there
were pieces that were missing.

Michael: Mm.

And distortions.

Audree: And distortions.

Michael: Yeah.

So, so.

There are a couple things that
I just wanna touch on here.

Number one, we say Audrey's
talking about thoughts.

It's your programs that are
creating the thoughts, right?

So it's not, you can just
change your thoughts.

I'll just have positive thinking.

That doesn't work.

So you actually need to address the
programs, which means you need the

debugger, which means you need to wear.

Audree: So, I'm gonna stop for a moment
because even not just changing the

programs, what needs to happen is the
neurotransmitters in your brain, the the

physical structures within your brain.

Also Right.

Need to shut off and they need to grow.

Mm-hmm.

And, and that takes an intentional
vibrational frequency that we don't

even understand how that works.

Correct.

Other than,

Michael: so that's why there's a
recoding within our energetics,

our emotional system, our, our
mental system, and our physiology.

And that's what we're experiencing
right now in our journey.

Is this intense phy, very
physical purification process.

As, as these energetic shifts are
permeating through all aspects of

being down to the cellular level.

And it's just this feeling of like, oh,
I feel really good, but my body, my body

is like, ah, I got a fever, I'm aching.

Well, and it's, it's like there's
this purification going on.

Audree: That's why Dr.

Emoto's work.

Is so profound in what we're doing because
he's showing how, um, the, the water

molecules actually change form based on.

You know, it's not just the word love,
but it's the vibrational frequency.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Oh, and actually you can tie that
into the, the things like where

the crystals of hatred and so on.

Those are actually what
the, some scars look like.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Right.

So it's actually kind of a visual rep.

Is it?

It is a visual representation of,

Audree: it is a visual.

Michael: What does a scum scar look like?

Is the mm-hmm.

The, the low frequency water
crystals can show that.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Oh, it kind of looks like this.

Michael: No, no, this is not,
this is something different.

So are Sure.

So I wanna go back to what we were
talking about, the matrix metaphor.

We talked about the red pill.

We didn't talk about the blue
pill, but the thing is, Audrey

did talk about the blue pill.

The blue pill is when you
say it's my circumstance.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: The blue pill, when you
say, well it's my genetic coding,

the blue pill, when you say, oh,
it's just the way I am as a person.

The blue pill when you say It's my human
design, I'm designed to be this way.

The blue pill is when you say, I can't
change it, the blue pill is when you

say it's hopeless, the blue pill is
when you think that there is no way out.

The, the blue pill

Audree: you say is when
you think it's out there,

Michael: the blue pill.

When you say, oh, if only I could
just do this, then I'd be fine.

Right?

That's what the blue pill is,
and the blue pill is what makes

up our everyday ordinary life.

That's what drives it.

Even people who are on a, on a, you
know, who have, you know, you know,

certain mystical abilities or have
been on a spiritual path, there's

an extraordinary level of blue pill
activity going on in those beings.

And, and even with our students,
we see this, I'm thinking of one

student right now where this happens
like again and again, and maybe

there's something we need to look at.

'cause we're seeing, we have
been seeing externally where.

There's fundamental things
going in their life that they

don't want to believe are true.

And because of that, then
they just get into this loop.

And so the blue pill, the blue pill
is like the really, the, the grip,

the GoIT consciousness has on us
where we're giving our allegiance,

we're giving our power away.

We're disempowering our own beings.

Audree: Actually, our students
are our greatest teachers.

Because if there's something going on and
they, they call us or they, they say, oh,

this is happening, then we immediately
go into, okay, where's that in us?

Where's that in us?

And if we can heal it or, or
transmute and transform it within us.

Usually there's a significant shift
in our students, um, within, with.

Within a certain period of time, like
a very short period of time, days, a

week, weeks or something like that.

Depends how, you

Michael: know, these are advanced
students, the ones who are

Audree: so

Michael: supporting

Audree: it.

It's that saying, you know, the outside
world is just a mirror reflection

of what's happening internally.

We're talking about.

What does that actually mean?

Michael: Right?

That's a

Audree: metaphor.

Very mechanic.

Like that metaphor.

Okay.

Okay.

But if you don't know what that metaphor
actually means in the very mechanics

of that and how to, how, how to

Michael: harness the mechanics
and put them into application

to debug your program.

Exactly.

To take the red pill and see the truth,

Audree: you're screwed.

That's all I have to say.

Michael: Right.

So this is where we're going to say, well,
it's not about having these concepts.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: You know, the external world
is your, you know, a reflection of your

internal world, or if you speak, see it
in somebody else, it's inside of you.

We're not

Audree: talking like Ma Maharishi
talking about the sap and the flower.

You know, I love Maharishi.

I love him so much and it's not enough.

Michael: Yeah.

Yeah.

So we, so anyway, so just going
back to where this all started.

This is why I say we
have these two threads.

One is energetics, high
vibrational frequency.

The other one is, is awareness.

Or we used to call it awareness, but now
I'm understanding it's, it's awareness and

application of the mechanics of creation.

That's what the other thread is, and
that's what Evolution Living is about.

That's what evolutionary design is about.

It's about giving us that,
that, that harnessing.

Of the mechanics to debug our
programs, to purify our beings so

that we create more of what we want.

Audree: Right.

Because if if this work, if, if it, if
it doesn't improve your life, then it's

not, it, it's in, it's not valuable.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: It's, it's just a
waste of time and I think.

Over the years, all the education, all
the life experience, all the, trying to

put all these teachings into practice.

You know, maybe move my
evolutionary journey or my life

improvement or my success an inch.

You know, I don't want an
inch if I'm putting in effort.

I want the marathon.

I mean, I wanna, I wanna be
able to finish the marathon.

I wanna be able to, not even the marathon,
I want instantaneous improvement.

I wanna see it and I wanna see it now.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: Like instantaneous healing.

When I was shown that I was gonna be a
healer, I was told instantaneous healing

is possible and I will be able to do that.

That's what I've been
searching for the fast.

Well

Michael: that's, that's what happened
like a couple days ago, is we got

the, the shift of perspective that
allows that potential to unlock.

Audree: Mm-hmm.

Michael: And right now we're in
the beginning stages of harnessing.

Audree: Even Joel Goldsmith
has that shift in perspective.

He says, if you see your client as a
human being, you'll never heal them.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: There, there will be
because you're not healing them.

But there will be no healing.

Because you are seeing
them in their limitation.

You're seeing them in their disease,
you're seeing them in their circumstance.

And you know, that's where I think
mystics say, oh, the world is an illusion.

The world is Maya.

Because they're seeing, they're
seeing the universe from a very,

very different perspective.

Michael: Hmm.

Audree: And so they're seeing that truth.

But they haven't been able to bring
that truth down in practicality.

Michael: Right?

So this is where I'd say for
Joel Goldsmith, it's a yes and

it's a yes and, and this has been my
experience, and you can contrast yours.

If it's different, it could be different.

So the yes and is yes.

It's about being in such a high frequency
that the perspective changes dramatically.

And at the same time, it's also at times
about the application of the mechanics.

Like I remember in our journey,
there's so many times I've just gone

to, well, can I just be in this high
vibrational frequency and just let go?

And then I don't have to
worry about the mechanics.

And what I've kept on with the
guide or guides keep on bringing

me back to is no, no, no.

You can't let go of the mechanics.

You gotta use the mechanics
when you need them.

And I think what happens though,
as we go on the journey, journey

is that there's this integration of
the techniques into self mastery.

So all that's needed is a shift
of perspective and awareness.

But, but what's really happening is
all those tools and techniques are

there, but they're just operating
on an automatic level of mastery.

Sort of like when you're driving
your car, you're not really

consciously driving your car.

You can just get to where you
need to get to and you don't,

you know, but, and, and so on.

Maybe that's not a great metaphor,
but, so what's happening is that

the, all the mechanics are needed.

And essential.

And so ultimately there's
no requirement to use them.

And, and at the same time, we are
using them fully because we're,

we've harnessed them into our being.

Audree: They work so quickly.

The, the, the

Michael: application of the
tools and techniques and so on,

Audree: and the knowledge, it
all works in such a refined way,

Michael: high frequency way.

It just goes, oop,

Audree: right.

But you still need, it's like

Michael: the flash,

Audree: the basics.

Michael: It's like the flash.

He goes, and then it's just done.

Audree: So what's coming to
me is that humans are lazy.

Michael: I sure am.

Audree: Yeah, me too.

And so the effort required
in the beginning is a lot.

And as the she say,

if it's.

If there's no efforting and it's not
difficult, the yes is not a real yes.

Michael: Right.

So the metaphor here is like learning
to play the piano and or in mastery.

I mean, there's all this research in,
in, you know, sort of regular culture.

Mm-hmm.

You need 10,000 hours of anything to
reach mastery, whether it's the piano,

whether it's playing hockey, whether
it's whatever, whatever the activity is.

Mm-hmm.

And so that's what's required
for this journey to have mastery.

Effort is required.

Audree: Effort is required because in for

Michael: mastery

Audree: in the effort,
is the choice to evolve.

Michael: Is the learning
how to debug your program,

Audree: right?

Michael: Is the taking
responsibility Well,

Audree: no, I'm, I'm going,
I'm going to what the She said.

Okay.

And the she said is what is required now.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: Is the Yes.

And it's only a real Yes.

In the trauma, in the difficulty.

Mm-hmm.

When you think you can't go any further.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: But you still apply the
knowledge and the tools and techniques,

even though you're in this of like,
I can't go any further, but you.

Play an audio or you sit in
and you do the, the clearing

that's needed or you, you know,
breathe through the purification.

That is your choice to evolve.

Like your choice to
evolve shows up as a yes.

Even in the most difficult times in
the, in the greatest of challenges.

We'll go back to the marathon metaphor.

It's like, you know, you have
24 miles to run and you're at.

At 19 and you just can't go any further
and there's something inside of you

that says, I'm gonna finish this.

Michael: Well, I always think of Lord
of the Rings where the, the hobbits are

going through, you know, mor door and
you know, they, they really can't go on

at, you know, they, they've gone past
the end of their endurance, but they're

like, they're in the middle of border.

Like, what, what else are they gonna do?

But complete the mission.

It, it just keep on going.

And then eventually, you know, the,
the, the, the ring of evil gets thrown

into the volcano, mountain doom.

And then, and then the, the,
the purification happens.

Audree: Or when we met, and you
said, I'm only gonna work with you if

you, if you go all the way through.

And we thought all the way through
meant in that moment, and then we're

like, you know, eight years later.

Oh, this is what all
the way through meant.

And then it was nine years later and
we're like, oh, this is what all this is.

What all

Michael: the way through, man.

Audree: And we're 10 years later

and we're still going all the way through.

Michael: Yeah,

Audree: because the universe, the mechanic
of this universe is for evolution.

Michael: I mean, what are you gonna do
when you start to know the mechanics?

You can't go back.

And there's nothing to you.

There's, there's nothing to go back to.

Audree: No.

There is nothing to go back to.

Michael: I wanna go back to
the pain of self-deception and

causing my own suffering, like,

Audree: and be unconscious.

Michael: It doesn't make sense.

Audree: Numb out.

Michael: Yeah.

Anyway, so that was the revelation
from this morning is that

when we say it's just
awareness, it, it's really.

The awareness, the mechanism through
which we can operate the mechanics.

And then that ties in again with what
you said about the self-mastery, is

that there's effort required for this.

And again, you know, at the same
time, while there's effort required,

there's also the make it easy button.

Like we use our own transformational
audios because, because, because

they work, because of the
make it easy button, you know?

'cause we're in a state where
we're holding, harnessing

together extraordinarily
high vibrational frequency.

And then, you know, when we're in a low,
that's really good to access and harness.

We go through cycle.

Audree: I also use them, not when I'm in
a low, but I want, I use them because I

wanna accelerate my evolutionary process.

Michael: Oh,

Audree: I like actually.

I, I

Michael: cheat code.

Audree: I, I'm on a mission.

It's not about teaching this work.

It's my own personal, you know, success.

My, you know, based on my own needs for
survival, which is, which is okay for me.

Michael: Mm-hmm.

Audree: You know?

I wanna be able to nurture and
love myself and care for myself.

And because I know that when I
can do that for myself, I can do

it for others, but it's putting
the oxygen mask on myself first.

And that's what we taught.

Oh my God.

In the leadership.

In the leadership training.

Michael: Yeah.

Audree: What?

Michael: Oh, well, we're
at 52 minutes through.

I, I was, I was gonna just say I'll,
we're, so we probably should close.

Audree: Yeah.

Michael: Um, but I'll share one more thing

that's gone.

So we'll just, we'll just do three
minutes or do you have anything more

you wanna share before we close?

Audree: Well, I said something about
putting an oxygen mask on first.

It sounded like it was a really good one.

Michael: Oh, it was a really good one.

Audree: Can you get it back?

Michael: No,

Audree: it's

Michael: not.

Audree: Okay.

Then it wasn't important.

Michael: No, it's not that
it wasn't important, it's

just that it, it energetic.

That would lead to a
whole other conversation.

Audree: Oh, okay.

Michael: That's what I'm getting.

Audree: Well, we can cut it and make two.

Michael: Yeah.

It'll come up afterwards.

Then we'll just do another one.

Okay.

All right.

We'll just take,

Audree: do you wanna do
three minutes in the E two?

Michael: We'll take three
minutes of, of us just being in

Audree: the E two mantra.

Michael: E two mantra.

Yeah.

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